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Offlineeos666
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P.Torch, first time, many questions
    #13999781 - 02/21/11 07:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hello,

im about to receive a peruvian torch of ebay. its 87cm high and 6,5cm thick.

as a complete noob to cacti, i ask for your help. there are so many extractions and teks around its very confusing.
1) how much of the torch should I use for one dose?
2) can i simply cut of part of it and leave the rest to grow further?
3) is there a easy guide on how to harvest the torch, cleaning it from spines, seperating the parts which contain the good stuff?
4) what is the best method or preparation and consumption in order to have as little nausea as possible?
5) what else can you tell a complety mescaline noob?

Before I will ingest any mescaline I will make sure to do some more research an any health risks and set/setting, Im a careful psychonaut :smile:


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Re: P.Torch, first time, many questions (moved) [Re: eos666]
    #14000516 - 02/21/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

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The EG is for growing plants, not consuming them. Moving to PE.


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Re: P.Torch, first time, many questions (moved) [Re: Cactusdan]
    #14000527 - 02/21/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the potency of peruvian torch can be so variable it is really hard for anyone to give a definite answer. I would use the search engine and read many different reports and take an average of what people are calling a good dose.


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Re: P.Torch, first time, many questions [Re: eos666]
    #14000909 - 02/21/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1) Torch is always the weakest IME (Backberg clones of Pedro aside). Use 2 feet at least. Maybe even take some kind of harmala/harmaline (Syrian Rue) to ensure trippage.

2) Yes. Leave it in a small ditch of dirt after the cutting has calloused over. Keep an eye out for rot/mold.

3) There are many. Search on google, drug-related forums, erowid. Info on this kind of stuff is everywhere.

4) An A/B extraction (look for: 69Ron's d-limonene tek) is the best at both reducing the amount of matter you have to consume for a trip and reducing nausea.

If not, just simmer and strain the cactus in some lime-juice and water a few times and drink.

Personally, though, I don't like drinking that bitter-lime-cactus juice and find that it reduces potency in a way that I don't prefer. Therefore, if I can't pulverize/powderize the cactus to do a more traditional extraction (which usually means I'm working with fresh cuttings), I prefer to just cut the cactus into strips, dry them, and eat the dry chips slowly over the course of an hour or so.

5) It's better to take "too much" as opposed to "too little". A failed mescaline trip sucks way more than dosing a bit higher than you expected. This is why A/B extractions are useful, however, as they give you a clearer notion of your target dose.
Eat some ginger root or get some Dramamine aswell. These reduce nausea. Reducing nausea is key for mesc-cacti trips as most people who have weak/no trips usually throw up within a half-hour of finishing their cactus.


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