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OfflineLoveYourLife
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Re: Depressed. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #13999548 - 02/21/11 03:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Drugs will not make your depression go away.  It's just a bandaid. 

But fixing the things that make you depressed will help.  A huge aspect of it is likely the unconscious mind.



and how the fuck do you fix the unconscious mind, einstein?





It's not that complicated of a concept quite honestly.  Theoretically the unconscious mind holds thoughts that have been suppressed by our defense mechanisms.  Those thoughts may be hidden from our current stream of consciousness but this does not mean that we are not effected by them.

Eliminating problems that you have in the back of your mind can be extremely alleviating for people who have anxiety and depression.  I don't see why that makes me Einstein?

It's quite basic Psychology and one of the aims of Psycho-analyzation.  There are many ways to transcend unconscious thoughts into consciousness.

One of them being drugs which over-ride neurological filters, aka Psychedelics.



Ive taken psychedelics hundreds of times and found they do nothing to override the anxiety or depression.
they are as you said earlier "band-aids".

Even mighty mdma although allowing me to overcome years of negative programming put me into a depressive slump a week later.





That's not what I meant, I stick to my original statement which would be that they are band-aids. 
All I was saying is that Psychedelics are a common way to manifest unconscious thoughts.  Overall I think they are an irresponsible way of combatting depression because the anxiety of repressed thoughts coming forth under the influence of a mind altering drug is too high and risky for a vulnerable psyche. 

I think MDMA is the most useful in this aspect because of the forced ego softening but the hangover is rough for people who are already low on serotonin.

I'm still recovering from eating over a half gram of molly last week.  Shit sucks.


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Re: Depressed. [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #13999553 - 02/21/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The depression anxiety and anger with myself causes me to be angry and vicious towards others which causes them to be angry and vicious towards me which causes more anxiety and depression for me. It's a vicious cycle and I see no way out.

Sometimes i feel like life isnt worth living anymore or I want to drink and drug until i cant feel feelings.


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Re: Depressed. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #13999567 - 02/21/11 03:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The depression anxiety and anger with myself causes me to be angry and vicious towards others which causes them to be angry and vicious towards me which causes more anxiety and depression for me. It's a vicious cycle and I see no way out.

Sometimes i feel like life isnt worth living anymore or I want to drink and drug until i cant feel feelings.




I have the same problem.  Depression is a bitch.
It's possible to change but it starts with changing the way you think (not easy), but plausible to an extent.  Biological influence plays a major role but it's not ALL of your personality.


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Re: Depressed. [Re: LoveYourLife]
    #13999571 - 02/21/11 03:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My mother is paranoid delusional and suffers severe depression. I am afraid Im a hopeless case.


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Re: Depressed. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #13999576 - 02/21/11 03:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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My mother is paranoid delusional and suffers severe depression. I am afraid Im a hopeless case.




If you continue to think like a depressed person, you will inherently feel that way.  I understand though, depression/anxiety runs in my family as well and I struggle with the same thought patterns everyday. 

Learned helplessness my friend, it's very real.  But knowing the mechanisms of the mind is something I find quite helpful in trying to get over it.

"Learned helplessness, as a technical term in animal psychology and related human psychology, means a condition of a human being or an animal in which it has learned to behave helplessly, even when the opportunity is restored for it to help itself by avoiding an unpleasant or harmful circumstance to which it has been subjected. Learned helplessness theory is the view that clinical depression and related mental illnesses may result from a perceived absence of control over the outcome of a situation."


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Re: Depressed. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14000193 - 02/21/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Drugs will not make your depression go away.  It's just a bandaid. 

But fixing the things that make you depressed will help.  A huge aspect of it is likely the unconscious mind.



and how the fuck do you fix the unconscious mind, einstein?




Snort cocaine like Freud!


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