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First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains)
    #13997569 - 02/20/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just now making my first post to document my first mushie grow!  I ordered a Mycodome v2.0 for the whole process.  Yes I know they're overly expensive, but I've heard good things so I just wanted something I could rely on for a good learning experience.  It's taken forever to arrive due to some shipping delays, so I got impatient and whipped up some alien substrate and sterilized it in a PC on my own to get the colonization process started while I wait.  Ended up inoculating 6 pint jars (couldn't find quart jars anywhere) using B+ Strain.  I injected about 1.3cc into each of the jars just to be safe.  They've since been sitting on a rack in a cleaned out, dark storage closet with a space heater maintaining around 82-84 degrees or so.  Been in there for the past 3 days, but no noticeable mycelium yet.  Not too worried though.  When the Mycodome arrives hopefully tomorrow, I will also be knocking up 6 standard PF jars with Alacabenzi strain before placing all the jars inside the Mycodome to properly incubate/colonize my new buddies :P

I hope I posted this in the right section of the forums, but if not someone please let me know where this log should go.  Pretty excited right now and looking forward to the experience ahead of me.  Any tips/help will be greatly appreciated and I'm always open to criticisms so long as they are constructive.  I'll be sure to post pictures too as soon as any noticeable progress is made.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #13997609 - 02/20/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

PF tek requires 1/2 pint jars.....Anything more will be asking for failure.....1/2 pints out perform 1 pint jars anyday...I take it you used BRF and verm?


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13997623 - 02/20/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

and 82-84 degrees is too hot, it invites contaminations....Make sure 80 degrees is the absolute MAX....I aim for 72-78 degrees F


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13997647 - 02/20/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The pint jars I have contain Alien substrate, a more grain based substrate using boiled whole Quinoa and brown rice, ground up millet and flax seed, and verm all mixed together with a dry verm layer on top.  It seemed most people were putting Alien Substrate in larger jars like Rye Grain so I tried to go bigger than smaller.  The other 6 jars that will arrive with the mycodome are 1/2 pint pre-sterilized standard BRF substrate.

Here is a link to the Alien Substrate recipe.  Let me know your thoughts

http://www.shroomery.org/9036/Alien-Substrate-Formula


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #13997673 - 02/20/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh ok cool, I didn't know of the Alien substrate.....But make sure your temps are 80 max....Because the mycelium makes its own heat along the way.  So if your jars are 84 degrees on the outside, they can be like 90 on the inside when you're into colonization.  Anything over 83 will invite contamination....the old 86 degree rule is out dated bunk info


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13997774 - 02/20/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I also have the lids totally sealed, with the exception of the four inoculation holes still exposed to promote free air exchange.  I have a dry verm layer inside on top of the substrate to block out contaminants, but am still kinda worried I should have a protective tin foil layer on top of the lid since I've yet to find a definitive textbook answer on the subject.  Any thoughts are appreciated.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #13997892 - 02/20/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Tinfoil is not needed, it will just restrict gas exchange....People do it and get away with it but its not good practice....As long as you have 4 holes for gas exchange and the dry verm layer you are good to go....Just don't tilt your jars if you pick them up to check them.  Always have them pointed straight up and don't jolt them at all...You don't want to shift the dry layer of verm at all.  Remember that it catches the contams....So if you shift it, it can let the shit that it caught down into your substrate


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13999983 - 02/21/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've seen a bulk grow with APE in 1 pint jars.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: iLuvAF]
    #14120073 - 03/14/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok, sorry for the lack of posts in the past few weeks but I've been pretty busy with work.  Either way, I'm posting just in time for the interesting stuff to start happening.

Quick update...
For one reason or another the B+ strain never colonized in the Alien PF TEK substrate.  It could either be my own wrong doing because I only waited like 4-5 hours after removing the jars from the pressure cooker to inoculate, but I did put them in the refrigerator for the first hour of that time so I guess I was hopeful it would work.  Could definitely be my fault for throwing a curveball in there with the refrigerator and not going exactly by the book in terms of waiting over night to inoculate.  It could also have been the syringe, as I bought the syringe from a head shop where I live, and though it all looked legit, the spores could easily have been sitting in their cabinets for a year plus so who knows.  Anyway, I got the Alacabenzi syringe in the mail along with pre-sterilized brown rice flour/verm jars through the internet and inoculated them about 2 weeks ago.  Below I have some pictures taken as of two days ago.  The problem is I will be out of town for the next 6 days or so and wanted to know how long you guys think I have til I need to go back and remove the cakes from the jars.  Below I have posted two pictures.  The close up picture is the two jars that are the farthest along.  The other picture is all 6 jars together.  I know Alacabenzi is supposed to be a fast colonizer so I am kinda worried I won't be back in time but hopefully yall can provide some insight as to what I'm looking at in terms of time frame.




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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14120136 - 03/14/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol at mycodome ! you could have bought all the materials for like 40 bucks tops and built your own in 2 hours ... i always feel sorry for ppl when i hear they wasted money on those things ... not only that they really arent even as good as a sgfc ... good luck on your grow though ...


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: cyantific]
    #14120157 - 03/14/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah money wasn't an issue.  I'm doing this for the experience, not for profit.  I bought it because it was an all in one kit and I didn't feel like drilling holes all day or setting up something I could get as a kit.  I knew the mycodome was comparatively expensive when I bought it and still did.  Please only respond with suggestions or insight.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14120212 - 03/14/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: cyantific]
    #14120243 - 03/14/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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lol at mycodome ! you could have bought all the materials for like 40 bucks tops and built your own in 2 hours ... i always feel sorry for ppl when i hear they wasted money on those things ... not only that they really arent even as good as a sgfc ... good luck on your grow though ...




You can build a fruiting chamber for less than 15 bucks :grin:


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    #14120246 - 03/14/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: cyantific]
    #14120267 - 03/14/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're only going to be out of town for 6 days or so?  I think you should be fine - RR suggests waiting a full week after 100% colonization for the myc to consolidate its hold on the substrate, so you should be good to go!  I don't think you have to worry about the jars pinning or anything like that.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14120282 - 03/14/11 04:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: cyantific]
    #14120294 - 03/14/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok man thanks for your help


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14120318 - 03/14/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it honestly wasnt meant to be condescending man ... best of luck


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: cyantific]
    #14120375 - 03/14/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd say you are good to go for 6 days no problem. You are supposed to allow a week of consolidation after full colonization with the PF TEK.


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: clueless]
    #14276641 - 04/12/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so it's been a long time with no update, but right now I'm in the midst of picking off the little cubies from my first flush.  However, I'm a little confused on where I should be going from here.  The first veils started to break about 36 hours ago and since then I have picked a fair amount of mature mushies from the BRF cakes and they're currently drying in a food dehydrator I picked up today from Bed, Bath, & Beyond (most homo store ever, i know, but nowhere else had food dehydrators).

However, I still have plenty of sizeable, but not mature (broken veil) pins growing and even a few new ones popping up daily.  Basically I'm just wondering when the definitive moment will be when I know my first flush is over and I should put the cakes back in the pot to dunk and roll before the second flush.

Also, should I pick all the pins off before dunking for the second flush?  If not, what's a good rule of thumb to decide whether to keep it on for the dunk or to pick it off for drying?  It's been 6 days since I saw the first pins.

Below is a picture of what I'm currently working with.  Thanks in advance for any tips, guidance, or good vibes:mushroom2:



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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14276686 - 04/12/11 06:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Your fruits are screeming for some FAE! They r suffocating!

When ever veil brake u pick the shroom...There is no definitive moment when one flush end and other start...that is something you r gonna figure out with experiance! No u dont want to pick the pins before dunking!:cheers:


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: Perun]
    #14276695 - 04/12/11 06:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I can't be certain, but I don't think FAE is an issue right now.  The kit has a vent on top and an aquarium pump constantly bubbling air through water to keep at least some airflow going.  Also I take off the top and mist about 1-2 sprays and fan it roughly 3 times a day


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14276705 - 04/12/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yep that's right, you can dunk with pins but pins and aborts aren't the same thing, remember. If a mushroom stopped growing all together as a pin, or aborted it will rot on the substrate and cause you to get less flushes. The idea is to induce fruiting conditions all at one time so that you have mostly one harvest at a time, but that can be pretty difficult. Sometimes you just have to make the call yourself, I would give any fruits that mature more time right now cus I don't have any mushrooms lol, but if I was busy I would pick the larger ones and go for a dunk. Picking early is all about space and time management. You'll get it right


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14276706 - 04/12/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I can't be certain, but I don't think FAE is an issue right now.  The kit has a vent on top and an aquarium pump constantly bubbling air through water to keep at least some airflow going.  Also I take off the top and mist about 1-2 sprays and fan it roughly 3 times a day




Ok...if u say so...if u knew better you would know what i said,without me saying it!

Last peace of advice...make a propper SGFC and do your growing right! No pumps,bubblers...


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: Perun]
    #14276951 - 04/12/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm not saying the conditions are perfect, as obviously I am new to this hobby and lack of FAE is definitely a possibility.  I was just saying that I didn't think that was a problem because I was under the impression that I had taken some precautions to avoid lack of FAE, as mentioned above.  Now I'm just wondering what some of the things were that you noticed from the picture to indicate to you that there is indeed a lack of FAE.  Hopefully if I understand it better I can take measures to fix the problem and improve conditions. 

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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: GrizzyBone]
    #14276981 - 04/12/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

there lookin pretty goood keep it up


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Re: First Time Grow Log (Mycodome PF Tek using B+ & Alacabenzi Strains) [Re: darkhawk37]
    #14277203 - 04/12/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

long skinny,curly stems! Mushroom grow towards fresh air and u can see yours are "reaching" for that vent on the top u were talking about!


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