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Aum, Shroomery. 2
#13997185 - 02/20/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, I just think life is so beautiful and I really love mediation and psychedelics.
Like the Buddha said, meditation shows you that the one place, the only place, free of confusion and suffering is the immediate present moment. Perceived thus, every instant is potentially sacred.

So just a reminder to Do psychedelics, smoke cannabis, and meditate. Awaken, we have been asleep long enough!
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212] 1
#13997234 - 02/20/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said:
Man, I just think life is so beautiful
life blows cock
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Salomon]
#13997252 - 02/20/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah, it's pretty beautiful man.
haven't you seen that movie?

Nah, it's pretty beautiful man.
haven't you seen that movie?
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Salomon] 1
#13997253 - 02/20/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Salomon said:
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28064212 said:
Man, I just think life is so beautiful
life blows cock
Do you have her number?
Edited by Mad_Larkin (02/20/11 06:47 PM)
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212]
#13997257 - 02/20/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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*plays salomon the smallest violin in the world*
I agree OP. Every moment in our lives can be potentially viewed from a place of love and energy, if we simply live in the present and not in our minds.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212]
#13997266 - 02/20/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I didn't know Buddhists did drugs... I don't know much about it, but I knew a Buddhist from Kyrgyzstan who came here to go to school at the University of Johns Hopkins, and he wouldn't drink, do drugs or anything, wouldn't even smoke grass or do any natural drugs.
I always thought it was a religious thing.
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It says in buddhist texts not to do drugs, it's the monastic tradition. Hindus aren't always so constrained in their methods. And hell, I'm sure plenty of Buddhists have done drugs over the years.
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According to the fifth precept of the Pancasila, Buddhists should refrain from any quantity of intoxicants which would prevent mindfulness or cause heedlessness.
Caffeine in tea is permitted, even encouraged for monks as it is believed to promote wakefullness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_drugs#Buddhism
As with most religions there's a slight wiff of hypocrisy here.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Salomon]
#13997337 - 02/20/11 07:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, I just think life is so beautiful
life blows cock
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212]
#13997356 - 02/20/11 07:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, I just think life is so beautiful and I really love mediation and psychedelics.
Tee Hee
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It's said that Buddha only ate cannabis seeds and possibly other parts of the plant for a few years before his enlightenment, and I think there's actually some evidence. Anyway, cannabis specifically definitely plays a role in Buddhism as much as the modern tightasses try to write it off.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: doses]
#13997370 - 02/20/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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uh, there's like no evidence of that, if you'd present some i'd love to be proven wrong
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: g00ru]
#13997396 - 02/20/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Eh I'm not going to bother. It was a commonly used plant in the region at the time.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: doses]
#13997458 - 02/20/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm sure some buddhists in india used it, buddha and his immediate disciples were so high on the universe all the time that smoking cannabis would just be useless and distracting for no reason
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212]
#13997496 - 02/20/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: g00ru]
#13997511 - 02/20/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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guruu said: It says in buddhist texts not to do drugs, it's the monastic tradition. Hindus aren't always so constrained in their methods. And hell, I'm sure plenty of Buddhists have done drugs over the years.
buddhist texts may prohibit such things, but Buddha himself often taught to question everything and see what methods work for you. He said to even question what he said. I can't remember the exact quote (which of course has been translated multiple times, so a direct quote is meaningless to an extent)
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Lion]
#13997517 - 02/20/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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On the whole Buddhist drug debate, the Buddha states that:
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Also, many Buddhist have gotten their start in Buddhism because of a psychedelic drug trip.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Todcasil]
#13997597 - 02/20/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah, it's pretty beautiful man.
haven't you seen that movie?
Nah, it's pretty beautiful man.
haven't you seen that movie?

You, sir, are living that movie. I can't imagine how fun that must be, and everyone knows, fun rules.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Salomon]
#13997633 - 02/20/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man, I just think life is so beautiful
life blows cock
A true Nihilist has no opinion one way or another.
Those in a state of loss and despair have a far better chance of Awakening. Though truth has no greater value than illusion and the choice isn't even ours.
No experience or sensation, no thought or symbol, no memory or emotion has anything to do with Truth!
Enjoy the dream while you can, there isn't much on the other side.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: Middleman]
#13997735 - 02/20/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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except bliss and peace. well, that's on the manifest side. but experiencing your true Self brings these things in my experience. awakening is a good thing, bar none.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: g00ru]
#13997802 - 02/20/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fuck bliss. Peace is dead and boring. I'm trying to say that awakening is not at all what most people say it is.
Otherwise more people would be awake, look around man.
There is a world of difference between mystical states / Samadhis / integral awareness and the awakened state / Nirvana / non-dual awareness.
There are many of the former but only one latter. The former do not usually lead to the latter, or vice-versa. In fact those who are best at high-dosing, yoga, and meditation are most likely to have Samadhi but least likely to awaken.
Awakening can spontaneously occur at any stage of cognitive development. It's like getting struck by lightning, those who try to make it happen waste their time. I'm not saying that one is better than the other, we just need to get our concepts clear.
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Re: Aum, Shroomery. [Re: 28064212]
#13997823 - 02/20/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said: On the whole Buddhist drug debate, the Buddha states that:
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Also, many Buddhist have gotten their start in Buddhism because of a psychedelic drug trip.

I used to post in a Buddhist forum, and was a bit dismayed at how much the topic of psychedelia was suppressed, so much that there were maybe 2 threads out of 50,000 dedicated to their discussion and both were closed quickly and quietly, even though they were pertinent to spiritual practice.
It's funny because yeah, almost all the famous Western Buddhist teachers had their start with LSD -- I mean really, pretty much 100% of them -- and psychedelics have played an enormous role -- probably the critical role -- in the growth of Eastern Religion in the West.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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