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    #13996562 - 02/20/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Reason for deletion: I see your guys' point.  You just don't see mine.  That's cool.



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Re: parents and tech [Re: truffleupagus]
    #13996573 - 02/20/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, you're a bastard.  Any help your mom needs, give it to her.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #13996593 - 02/20/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Indeed.  He might think differently if his parents had been among those who didn't give a fuck about their kids when they were helpless mewling snots.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: truffleupagus]
    #13996613 - 02/20/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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truffleupagus said:
  And anymore I just have a very low tolerance for helplessness. 




With a statement like this, I hope you've moved out, buy all your own food etc.


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Re: parents and tech *DELETED* [Re: truffleupagus]
    #13996743 - 02/20/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Post deleted by truffleupagus<p>Reason for deletion: I see your guys' point.  You just don't see mine.  That's cool.



Oh no, we saw it quite clearly.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: badchad]
    #13996748 - 02/20/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I didn't get a chance to read this before you deleted it, but I think I get the gist of it.

Your parents aren't very tech savvy and need alot of help with computers/phones and whatnot?

Mine are the same way. Especially my mom. And yes, I find it very easy to get annoyed with her because I've showed her countless times how to do things, and even wrote it down for her, but she still doesn't get it and sometimes its like she doesn't even try. I feel like in the back of her mind she doesn't try because she knows that I'm always going to be there to help her.

I hate to see what's going to happen once I move out. I'll probably get phone calls daily asking how to do something :lol:

But whenever I do get annoyed with her and snap on her, I always think back on it and feel really bad about it. She has done so much for me, I shouldn't mind giving her the help she needs. Most of the time I'm fine with it. I'm trying to get better about not being so annoyed.

Just try to appreciate what your parents have done for you before you go and get all annoyed with them, if you can help it. Try to help them as much as you can, because they're not going to be around forever.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996764 - 02/20/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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"I'm really starting to wonder if it's me.  But I don't think it is.  I mean, I'd prefer to not think I'm the crazy one anyway.

My mom got herself a computer several years ago.  Since then I've helped her with a lot on it.  It's now getting to the point where I'm wondering if I've done too much.  My parents have both had a habit of doing too much for me throughout my whole life.  As a result, I know I'm a great person but I'm not nearly as great as I could be.  I just feel like necessity and having to do things for yourself breed greatness.  And anymore I just have a very low tolerance for helplessness.  That's how my mom acts.  I almost lost it with her the other day.  She starts asking me how to put songs on her ipod WHILE holding a piece of paper in her hand that had handwritten instructions from yours truly on doing just that.  I'm thinking, 'WTF?  Did you even bother to look at it?'

Am I a bastard if I take the position of not laying another finger on her computer?  I honestly don't think I am.  I think I'm just being reasonable and trying to recognize something that could cause problems.  I'll help her in a heartbeat with anything not tech related.  I'm just getting to the point where I think people should be independently tech-savvy or chalk it off as something just not meant to be.  Don't drive other people crazy with it though.  I don't really know anymore.  Both my parents get so defensive over the tech stuff.  I think it all boils down to jealousy.  It's sad cause I never thought the people who gave me life would become such haters.  Maybe 2012 is just a general point in time where we finally get over the immense generation gap created by teh intarwebs.

Can anybody relate?  I sure hope so. "


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #13996795 - 02/20/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks, Sprezzatura.

Wow, that does sound scarily similar to me. My parents have done everything for me and sometimes I feel like I'm spoiled and less prepared for the world because of it.

But I think it's kind of mean to just cut off all help when they need it. I have just come to the realization that it's never really going to change. They're never going to immerse themselves in technology like I have. So I might moan and groan about it, but in the end I just end up helping them.

Plus they're older and it's alot harder for them to learn things than it is when you are younger. :shrug:


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996838 - 02/20/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks, Sprezzatura.

Wow, that does sound scarily similar to me. My parents have done everything for me and sometimes I feel like I'm spoiled and less prepared for the world because of it.

But I think it's kind of mean to just cut off all help when they need it. I have just come to the realization that it's never really going to change. They're never going to immerse themselves in technology like I have. So I might moan and groan about it, but in the end I just end up helping them.

Plus they're older and it's alot harder for them to learn things than it is when you are younger. :shrug:




Same; I want to hate my parents for it, but still blame myself.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: FuzedBox]
    #13996872 - 02/20/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is why you shouldn't spoil your kids.  They end up hating you anyway.  You might as well beat them and enjoy yourself while you can.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13996891 - 02/20/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Aw I don't think that's entirely true. I wouldn't say I'm completely spoiled, because my parents definitely aren't made of money. But they did everything to make sure that I was as happy as I could be.

I could never hate them. I appreciate them more and more each day.

I was spanked, but never plain out beaten.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996910 - 02/20/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Kids need a beating once in a while.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #13996919 - 02/20/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:shrug: I guess that's where our parenting opinions differ.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996954 - 02/20/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was being facetious.  The choice is not between spoilage and beatings.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996960 - 02/20/11 05:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well, actually, if parents parented a little better, they wouldn't need to deal out ass whoopings.  Really the parents need the ass kicking most of the time.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #13996990 - 02/20/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I had beatings, but it didn't matter. My parents were way older than the average and being ultra-fundie didn't help. The only way they knew how to show love was through material wealth. When my dad decided to stay behind when my family moved during middle school, it ruined me; I had my first serious fight and suspension within a week of starting at the new school, and started thinking for myself.

Being raised to feel guilty about everything I wanted to enjoy really made me a fucked up person... I couldn't listen to music, admit how I felt about girls or present them to the parents, or talk to them about anything. I started living for myself, lost. I still feel pretty fucked up because it's hard to be social.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: Ballerium]
    #14006843 - 02/22/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Thanks, Sprezzatura.

Wow, that does sound scarily similar to me. My parents have done everything for me and sometimes I feel like I'm spoiled and less prepared for the world because of it.

But I think it's kind of mean to just cut off all help when they need it. I have just come to the realization that it's never really going to change. They're never going to immerse themselves in technology like I have. So I might moan and groan about it, but in the end I just end up helping them.

Plus they're older and it's alot harder for them to learn things than it is when you are younger. :shrug:




Well, I realize it was kinda pointless now to even bother with deleting my original post. :lol:

Thanks for your input in the thread Ballerium.  I appreciate that.  And yeah, that's the thing.  I didn't want to cut off all help completely or anything.  I just got to the point where I needed to feel like an effort was being made on her part.  I didn't know what to do on my end to really bring that about.  I guess in a way I was the one who felt helpless.

But things are smoothed out now with me and my folks.  I stopped over their place the other night and helped my mom with sending some pictures off to somebody she met on the cruise they just went on.  She actually took notes this time.  I was so fucking happy with her for that.  That was really all I needed.  In the past she would always ask for my help and make it seem like she'd be around to observe.  But then I stop over and she'll be up in her bedroom doing whatever.  I'll try to give her advice on using a particular browser or something and she won't want to take it.  So that was just the kind of stuff that had me frustrated.  But I'm feeling like we can find some middle ground now and I can not be a bastard anymore.

Honestly I appreciate the input of everybody in this thread.  Thank you.  I think I'll be a little more patient now.  I just told her that I need to feel like her son too and not just the computer fixing guy.


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Re: parents and tech [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14006865 - 02/22/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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The choice is not between spoilage and beatings.





there was no choice when you spoil them with beatings


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    #14006917 - 02/22/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
The choice is not between spoilage and beatings.





there was no choice when you spoil them with beatings



:ahahaha:


My dad was hot headd enough where the thought of a beating was not far off...BUT HE NEVER DID

its wierd, he managed to keep us trained while never beating us.

And I agree let kids do it for themselves helps in the long run....


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