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ssc18
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my review on 2c chems
#13990408 - 02/19/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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move along here, nothing to see. Just another person who dislikes the 2c chemicals.
my suggestion would be to stick with the LSD and DMT. These things actually make you FEEL good while making you see shit.
Anyway, yeah ok ok elvs and spirits my ass. The 2c chemicals are just bad. They make me feel like my body has a LOAD on it.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13990506 - 02/19/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Moo456
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13990672 - 02/19/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Which one did you take?
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: Moo456] 1
#13990741 - 02/19/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What does dopamine have to do with LSD? Never heard that before.
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Moo456
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: drr]
#13990846 - 02/19/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LSD binds to dopamine receptors (along with many others), but that pharmacological action isn't really a cause for euphoria. Besides psychedelic phenethylamines usually do bind to the dopamine receptors as well. 2c-e makes me feel great. He's either sensitive or being a about the side effects.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: Moo456]
#13991342 - 02/19/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Which ones did you take? I have nothing but for 2c-x chems I have tried.
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ssc18
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I took 2c-e. You guys haven't taken enough to get this type of body load is my guess.
I smoked probably over 10mg maybe 20 in one hit.
In about 5 minutes I was feeling so bad. On top of that I wasn't even having auditory just visual hallucinations.
It was overload on the 5ht subclasses. Way to high feeling, I felt like puking, I couldn't stop moving around or I felt like shit, my pupils were the biggest I have ever seen them.
I think it was just too much.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13994856 - 02/20/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not really a fan of phenethylamines either.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13994911 - 02/20/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The 2C's have never been anything special on their own for me. But mix with a phenethylamine, and together they are millions of times greater than the sum of their parts.
LSD's action on dopamine is so weak, it really doesn't contribute to the effects until you get into 10-strip dosing. Mushrooms have no dopaminergic action, but 2C's do. Stick with dopamine highs? What?
Edit: I only get a body load at 15+ mg, and it only lasts until the comeup is over. Then it comes back for comedown, but a few mg alprazolam and it's gone.
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doses said: I'm not really a fan of phenethylamines either.
Ever try mescaline?
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ssc18
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: BothHands]
#13994956 - 02/20/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was talking about dopamine highs because I said stick with LSD and DMT which are both dopamine highs.
I don't know about you guys, but the psychedelic thing really could be better with the 2c chemicals. Sure I stare at one place long enough and I start getting visuals but other then that it just makes me feel sick.
I would rather a chemical fuck me up worse then 2c chems do to me
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: BothHands]
#13995042 - 02/20/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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BothHands said: Ever try mescaline?
Yeah, really potent bridgesii a few times. It was infinitely better than 2C-E, but I still vastly prefer traditional tryptamines. Bridgesii was more like ayahuasca in it's endless effects, strong body load, and deep spiritual experience. Not that I've ever done ayahuasca, but I feel it plays the same role. Nothing in the world like LSD, IMO.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: doses]
#13995089 - 02/20/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree. Mescaline is a good drug, but it seems infinitely less complex and interesting than an oral DMT trip. Even at high doses, the body high, the lip-biting, and the strung out feeling of mescaline detracts from the visuals and mental effects. And it just keeps going and going and going like the Energizer bunny to the point of exhaustion. When taking tryptamines, I feel like I've finally come home and am where I belong. On mescaline, I feel like I am with close friends, but its not the same as family.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: joemolloy]
#13995131 - 02/20/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: I agree. Mescaline is a good drug, but it seems infinitely less complex and interesting than an oral DMT trip. Even at high doses, the body high, the lip-biting, and the strung out feeling of mescaline detracts from the visuals and mental effects. And it just keeps going and going and going like the Energizer bunny to the point of exhaustion. When taking tryptamines, I feel like I've finally come home and am where I belong. On mescaline, I feel like I am with close friends, but its not the same as family.
This.
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Moo456
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13995148 - 02/20/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why the hell would you smoke 2c-e? Have you ever tried just eating it? It's less stimulating that way.
And no, none of these psychedelics can be considered dopamine drugs. Different people prefer different psychedelics.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: Moo456]
#13995204 - 02/20/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Moo456 said: LSD binds to dopamine receptors (along with many others), but that pharmacological action isn't really a cause for euphoria. Besides psychedelic phenethylamines usually do bind to the dopamine receptors as well. 2c-e makes me feel great. He's either sensitive or being a about the side effects.
Agreed. I love the clear headed trip
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: Cakk]
#13995628 - 02/20/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your thoughts and actions during a trip certainly could affect DA activity, though, maybe even more than DA activity solely from whatever psy binding to dopamine receptors.
I don't really know, but AFAIK dopamine is definitely a complicated system that is interconnected with all sorts of things we do.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13995662 - 02/20/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You smoked 2c-e 
I gave some 2c-e to a couple of friends and they decided to smoke it. said they got really sick and "fucked up"
i was like 
why would you smoke it? did it taste like a dogs asshole?
just eat it, 2c-x's are the bees knees when you get the hang of them. 
with high of doses there is a constant feeling of "something's about to happen/i'm about to breakthrough to full blown headfuck tripping" but it never happens (unless you have actually eaten a shitload)
if you steadily up your dose over the night eventually the feeling of 'something coming on' is easier to deal with and you just end up completely fucking warped out sitting in a lava lamp world. it's actually really fun, with minimal 'headfuck' but your world will literally be melting around you, like nothing i've seen on any other drug (2c-e)
2c-b is really buzzy, shit vibrates and shakes and whatnot, it's a bit harder to deal with (for me)
2ct2 and 2ct7 are excellent, but I gotta say 2c-e was my longstanding favourite, cuz I could just eat the shit all night without much drama, and most of the time it's really easy to hit the town with (the visuals become a lot more LSD-like when I'm out), and you can drink a gutload of booze so the bodyload is a lot easier to deal with (note: be careful when mixing anything with booze... do your research first)
edit: I never got much of a hangover from 2c-e, either. 2ct2, 2ct7 and 2c-b I couldn't really redose and afterwards was feeling pretty strung out. no problems sleeping after 2c-x for me, either.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18] 1
#13995715 - 02/20/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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apparently you've never tried 2cb, or else you wouldn't dislike 2cs
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18]
#13996334 - 02/20/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What kind of supersaiyan are you?
Not using scales? Can't even tell whether you took 10mg or 20? smoking 2C-E?
Not a particularly awesome one is my guess. 
Psychedelics like 2C-E should ALWAYS be weighed and ALWAYS be taken orally (or rectally in strongly reduced doses). Smoking or injecting 2C's is a surefire way to get a very unpleasant experience, laden with side effects, which you might just die from.
Don't dis 2C-E after one experience where you grossly abused it.
After your haphazard smoking of a mescaline analog hydrochloride salt your remark "It was overload on the 5ht subclasses" fails to impress.
You took the wrong ROA (Route of administration) and you clearly took too much. You could have gotten hurt, which is horrible in itself, but your stunt also could have gotten 2C-E illegalized, which is pretty rotten too.
Next time you go supersaiyan, do so on a responsible dose taken via a responsible route of administration.
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ssc18
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: Asante]
#13996387 - 02/20/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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No joke on the smoking it is stupid...
I have tried eating it too, the body load was less and the high was just as good and psychedelicish.
I will have to try booz and 2c/e sounds like a good combo.
I don't know how you can figure that LSD and DMT don't give dopamine highs. You are eating either bunk acid or you are taking small amounts
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: R2-D2]
#13996413 - 02/20/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ssc18 said: I was talking about dopamine highs because I said stick with LSD and DMT which are both dopamine highs.
No, no they're not. LSD has negligible dopaminergic activity, and DMT has none.
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R2-D2 said: Your thoughts and actions during a trip certainly could affect DA activity, though, maybe even more than DA activity solely from whatever psy binding to dopamine receptors.
I don't really know, but AFAIK dopamine is definitely a complicated system that is interconnected with all sorts of things we do.
Sure, any activity, whether drug induced or not can be dopaminergic. If you're having fun and feeling good, you're probably releasing dopamine. But unless a drug can bind to the dopamine receptors, it's not a dopaminergic drug.
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ssc18 said: I don't know how you can figure that LSD and DMT don't give dopamine highs. You are eating either bunk acid or you are taking small amounts
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. They're SEROTONERGIC drugs. They work on serotonin almost exclusively. Phenethylamines like 2C-E, on the other hand, have quite significant dopamine and serotonin binding.
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Re: my review on 2c chems [Re: ssc18] 1
#13998237 - 02/20/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ssc18 said:
I will have to try booz and 2c/e sounds like a good combo.
judging by the general consensus, maybe it's a good idea you stay away from RC's
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