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owls
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: owls]
#14015447 - 02/23/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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btw, all the posts in this thread mocking this guy... you guys are absolutely fucking pathetic!
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: owls] 1
#14015588 - 02/23/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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owls said: btw, all the posts in this thread mocking this guy... you guys are absolutely fucking pathetic!
I'd amend this quote to read "all the posts ENCOURAGING this guy...you guys are absolutely fucking pathetic."
You are encouraging a totally reckless, irreversible and irresponsible act. You know absolutely NOTHING about the individual other than the fact that this "opportunity" has presented itself and he's 19 years old. How DARE YOU even suggest that this is a good idea based upon such scant information.
SHAME ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!!!!
OP...It's a BAD, stupid, unnecessary act with absolutely NO upside and every possibility of inconceivable, un-anticipatable downside. Not to mention when you lose your fucking mind (and you will) and the media finishes demonizing the results of your stupid, selfish act, you will have have tainted this community with your reckless stupidity and give more ammunition to those who would deprive the rest of us with responsible use of psychedelics just when we seemed to be making some progress.
Don't be a reckless ass and fuck over the rest of us along with yourself. 
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14015601 - 02/23/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i honestly don't see what difference any one of our posts are going to make anyway, he'll probably end up doing what he wants to do
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14015608 - 02/23/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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why not do a little finger print instead, and then see how you feel... I reckon after the little finger print you will be glad you didn't do a thumb print!!
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Nature Boy
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: owls]
#14015743 - 02/23/11 07:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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owls said: i honestly don't see what difference any one of our posts are going to make anyway, he'll probably end up doing what he wants to do 
I disagree. The OP came to this forum as an unguided 19 year old seeking advice. IMHO, he got some VERY BAD advice from those who encouraged such a reckless act. Have you ANY IDEA what exactly it is you are promulgating here?????
People WILL be influenced (especially at age 19) by the opinion of their peers. I'd venture to say that NOT ONE OF YOU who encouraged the OP to do a thumbprint has ever been remotely close to that altered by LSD.
In 1971 I inadvertently took about 1200 ug of acid all at once (a TINY fraction of what the OP has proposed and you are encouraging) with disastrous consequences.
Again...with so little information about the OP, how DARE YOU encourage even the remote possibility of an act that could result in the ruination of a young life!!!
The irresponsibility of that encouragement makes me sick.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14015784 - 02/23/11 07:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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well after reading this thread if the OP decides he's gonna do it, then let him.. thing is when the shit hits the fan, and he starts tripping hard he will start remembering all these posts telling him not to do it, and he will shit his pants hard.. it will make the rest of the trip a horrid experience and will never want to do anything like that again!
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14015814 - 02/23/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think anyone should ever encourage anyone to take a thumb print of acid. It's not so much to me a you are ready or not ready sort of deal, you just shouldn't. From my perspective the only thing that come out of that intense of an experience is negative, although thumb print survivors may say otherwise.
Although I was quite serious about those Hoffmans, you should eat those suckers down, they are pretty tasty and enjoyable in moderate doses
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14015913 - 02/23/11 07:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been watching this thread and other threads RP has posted. I am inclined to say, if it is that available in your country, then just wait.
I myself took years to work up to the doses I ended up taking normally. I pretty much stayed at two and three for some time then once and a while five hits. Some time later five was my normal dose with an occasional 10 hits. Somewhere between 20-25 hits was the most and while it was a great trip I don't think it would have been if that was the third time I ever dosed.
Just wait, even if the chance doesn't come up again, oh well.
Of course, me at that age... I would have done it(of course at that age was when I was really doing LSD), can't say I wouldn't today. But that is just me, and I know me.
Take your time, maybe start upping your dose once and a while. Granted a print is going to be nothing like it but you never know, you might learn you don't need to do it or figure out why you think you want to do it?
(sorry a little so hope I didn't ramble to much)
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: 4runner]
#14015928 - 02/23/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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is it true that the streets of Belgium are lines with LSD crystal?
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#14015949 - 02/23/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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owls said: i honestly don't see what difference any one of our posts are going to make anyway, he'll probably end up doing what he wants to do 
I disagree. The OP came to this forum as an unguided 19 year old seeking advice. IMHO, he got some VERY BAD advice from those who encouraged such a reckless act. Have you ANY IDEA what exactly it is you are promulgating here?????
People WILL be influenced (especially at age 19) by the opinion of their peers. I'd venture to say that NOT ONE OF YOU who encouraged the OP to do a thumbprint has ever been remotely close to that altered by LSD.
In 1971 I inadvertently took about 1200 ug of acid all at once (a TINY fraction of what the OP has proposed and you are encouraging) with disastrous consequences.
Again...with so little information about the OP, how DARE YOU encourage even the remote possibility of an act that could result in the ruination of a young life!!!
The irresponsibility of that encouragement makes me sick.
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Nature boy, i wholeheartedly agree with your statement. I don't think anyone encouraging a 19 year old kid to take 1000+ hits of lsd could actually be thinking about what their saying. This isn't just some user on a forum its an actual person who could be permanently damaged by the advice strangers on a forum give him.
Obviously he can decide for himself but if he comes to the shroomery looking for advice are you guys honestly going to tell someone you have never met to do a thumbprint? Right now im thinking about the most intense trip iv ever had and what it felt like and how that amounts to nothing compared to what 1000 hits of acid would do to me.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: nicechrisman]
#14016027 - 02/23/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: is it true that the streets of Belgium are lines with LSD crystal?
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14016396 - 02/23/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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listen hun, please please don't do unless your out in the woods with a bunch of close friends so you don't just have one sitter but a circle so if/when things go bad you have a strong support group. that way they can take shifts and sleep while your gone. if you can't do something like this then DON'T DO IT! Actually just take a ten strip and see where that gets you b4 going balls to the wall.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: flutterbi]
#14016819 - 02/23/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just know that it will be WAY MORE INTENSE than you, or any of us, are imagining. It's up to you, though. If it's legitimate LSD, it's very likely you will feel it forever to some degree. And it seems near-impossible to fuck up if it's actual LSD, except for a ccrraazzzyyy comeup.
I would like to encourage you to continue eating mushrooms, though. And Harmalas and DMT! I for one seem to be "better" at "handling" (hahahahaha) them than LSD, but I still feel like I should press on with higher doses of acid.
Either way, good vibes and have fun!
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: GoddessOfLove]
#14016864 - 02/23/11 10:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i would definitely do it...i have experienced hardcore ego death/rebirth on heavy doses of LSD in the past, but a thumbprint would be beyond anything i could possibly imagine....i wouldnt even think twice about trying it! the psych experience has sooo much to offer and if you are one who wants to go that far then you shouldnt pass up such a great chance! ill never have such a chance, but i dont really think i need it as i am VERY sensitive to these chems and have deep deep spiritual experiences of death/rebirth off as little as 5 hits of good stuff.
good luck and happy tripping brother! let us know how it is if you do it!!
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Nature Boy]
#14017046 - 02/23/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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owls said: btw, all the posts in this thread mocking this guy... you guys are absolutely fucking pathetic!
I'd amend this quote to read "all the posts ENCOURAGING this guy...you guys are absolutely fucking pathetic."
You are encouraging a totally reckless, irreversible and irresponsible act. You know absolutely NOTHING about the individual other than the fact that this "opportunity" has presented itself and he's 19 years old. How DARE YOU even suggest that this is a good idea based upon such scant information.
SHAME ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!!!!
OP...It's a BAD, stupid, unnecessary act with absolutely NO upside and every possibility of inconceivable, un-anticipatable downside. Not to mention when you lose your fucking mind (and you will) and the media finishes demonizing the results of your stupid, selfish act, you will have have tainted this community with your reckless stupidity and give more ammunition to those who would deprive the rest of us with responsible use of psychedelics just when we seemed to be making some progress.
Don't be a reckless ass and fuck over the rest of us along with yourself. 
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: usefulidiot13] 1
#14017111 - 02/23/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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My only advice it that you listen carefully to what the more experienced posters are suggesting.
I'd like to call your attention to the fact that the people who are making these suggestions, both in the negative and in the positive, are at least minutely invested in what you choose to do and how you will react to it.
The shroomery is a great place to find people who understand, at least to some degree, what you would be putting yourself through. And I'd hope that, if you do take the thumbprint and are having a difficult experience, this community will be there to help you through the trip. If you decide to take it, post a thread explaining what you've done, I, and I'm sure at least some other members, will be there to provide you with good vibes.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: healing]
#14017132 - 02/23/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It would seem that a lot of people feel like they have something to prove when it comes to these ridiculous doses...I have a friend in real life that says he wants to do a thumbprint, I'm not sure if he truly realizes exactly what that entails, or even can. I'm not one to say I'd never do such a thing, but I do know that I wouldn't even consider it until I have a lot more experience with heavy doses of psychedelics under my belt. From what I hear it can easily have a permanent effect on you, and that's not something to be taken lightly.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: Pigasus]
#14017789 - 02/24/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just read up on how much a thumbprint is, supposedly it is at least 40,000 micrograms.
I find it odd that at the age of 19 you want to launch yourself into a psychedelic world that will probably appear at some point to last for eternity or last for at least hundreds of years. I don't think something like a very large dose of LSD is good for your psyche, I think you would seriously damaged by it.
You would be far better living your life with out doing an LSD thumbprint. If he is willing to give you a thumbprint, I am sure he would be able to hook you up with some good LSD you could purchase.
Using a dose that large I would imagine could have some sort of cross tolerance on other psychedelics and dull or ruin your experiences with them.
Do not do a LSD thumbprint.
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: GoddessOfLove] 1
#14017812 - 02/24/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good luck and blessings whatever choice you make, man.
Interesting to hear what you say about Belgium - I've been there a couple of times, but not with people who would be interested in acid;)!
A lot of good advice in this thread on both sides of the argument.
It does seem that going from 6-blotters (even 6 very strong blotters) to a thumbprint would be like going from a 2-day trek in the Alsace (in summer...) to climbing Everest. Maybe you would make it up Everest and back fine, and maybe it would be a fantastic experience, but any sensible person would say that you should train for a couple of years first (explore the Alps, the Andes, the lower Himalayas first - why rush straight up the big one?). On the other hand, if this is your one and only chance to climb Everest, and you really think your friend knows what he is doing, then it would be understandable if you want to go for it.
Anyway I think that's the way to think about it: in moving from 6 blotters (even if that's over 1mg of acid) to a thumbprint, you're going from a slightly challenging but basically safe and predictable experience to one that is very dangerous and which regularly breaks very experienced practitioners. What's more - there is plenty of territory to explore in between where you are now and your proposed goal.
One thing to keep in mind is that you shouldn't do it just to prove something to yourself or to people on this board. It's not just a question of whether it's dangerous or not or whether it's a good idea or not or whether you are or not ready for some kind of elite initiation; thinking about it in those terms is likely to provoke any young man into trying it just to prove he can do it....which is not a good reason for undertaking a spiritual voyage of this nature.
Instead the question should be: is there any real need or good reason to make this huge leap, when there is plenty of interesting psychedelic exploration to be done in between here and there. Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.
There's certainly things you can do to prepare yourself for such an experience - study yoga, practice meditation, etc. Maybe you already have plenty of experience with such things. If not then I would consider getting into something like that for a while and training for a couple of years before trying the thumbprint (as well as experimenting with some 1mg, 2mg, 3mg doses in the meantime). In my experience this can really help with a high-dose experience (but my experience of high dosage doesn't go any higher than yours, although I may have done it more times over a longer period).
Whatever you do, please let us know.
And do please tell us more if you can about the Belgian scene. Why is acid so common? It is because Holland is nearby and the Belgian police are not that interested, or is there some other reason?
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Re: I have the opportunity to do a thumbprint, what should i do ? [Re: sit]
#14017868 - 02/24/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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it's only gonna take so much as "why did this kid eat this dangerous drug, LSD?"
"he was egged on by members of an internet drug forum"
which will lead to this site being shut down and harsher internet laws being put in place and our already limited freedom (at least on the internet) will be monitored and watched and a large portion of members on this site will be locked up for a wide variety of reasons.
this will have more of an effect all over the world than just frying his own head.
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