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#13989686 - 02/19/11 12:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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So i had some fully colonized jars and i went to my friends house and stayed there for two nights and by the time i got home i had invitro pins growing in my pf jars. 
Im going to birth these as soon as possible. My questions are how should i go about birthing cakes with in vitro pins? Do i still do the 24 hour dunk and rool in dry verm?
And i lost my 1/4inch drill bit and i only can find 3/8...will this be bad if i drill all my holes in my SGFC with 3/8 drill bit? I will look for the 1/4 if so.
And i have to fill up the dunking water from my sink which is in the dirtiest environment in my house for growing mushrooms. There is stacks of potatoes and oranges that are covered in green mold on the average right by the sink.
I sprayed the area of the sink with 1:10 solution of bleach/water but there is lots of surfaces and towels and such that are good places for mold spores to stick to. I dont want to rinse my cakes off in that environment.
And rinsing the perlite with water. Im gonna have to do that over my dirty ass sink too. Im probly just gonna spray tons of bleach/water and wipe down And hope for the best
Any tips/advice would be great
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13989723 - 02/19/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go ahead and do the dunk & roll. It wouldn't damage the pins. In my experience, cleanliness isn't so important during the fruiting stage. Good luck!
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13989734 - 02/19/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup, dunk and roll as usual, pins and all. They'll be fine.
My kitchen can get pretty dirty too, but I still do all my dunks/soaks right at the kitchen sink, with regular ol' tap water (I do clean it up a bit if there happens to be a larger than average mess though).
As for the drill bit, i'd think it would work okay. I've never used a SGFC before though, so you may want to wait for someone with a little more experience with 'em. 
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DungeonMaster]
#13989748 - 02/19/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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an 1/8" more probably wont make a huge difference. maybe just space them a tiny bit further from one another?
for the cleaning, get some air spray + the counter/sink wipedown and close any drafts off.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Primal Call]
#13989763 - 02/19/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thats good to hear...it seems this pin is going to grow towards the perlite and raise the cake up from the bottom. I hope not.
We'll see how it goes 
Would it be better to use the 3/8 drill bit or the 1/8? Probly the 1/8 hah.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13989794 - 02/19/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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with how important FAE is, I think the 3/8. just be sure to check its rH every day or two.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Primal Call]
#13990185 - 02/19/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright i drilled holes on all 6 sides with the 3/8 
I will tap the cakes out of their jars today and dunk them to be rolled in verm tomorrow and birthed  
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13990238 - 02/19/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i used a 3/8`s when i was using a sgfc and everything went OK but i used a few less holes, as fare as your sink/kitchen goes, remember you obviously were clean enough to be successfull with your cakes so i wouldn't worry about that either. IMPORTANT: go to cigar shop and buy a cheep hydrometer! that stops ALL the GUESS work- you will be happy you did. remember to make spore prints.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: jacobensis]
#13990287 - 02/19/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cheap hygrometer is here: http://www.bargainhumidors.com/bh/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=ACC-ANALOG
Tons of people have bought from them, they're adjustable and cheap.
3/8" holes may be too large. Remember kids, a 1/4" hole has 4x the area that a 1/8" hole does. If you went 3/8" every 2 inches on all six sides, you may want to tape up half of the holes. With a good hygrometer you can watch it and adjust as needed.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#13990294 - 02/19/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ya i made a good amount of holes but i didnt go all the way through with the drill bit so its a bit smaller than 3/8"
I'll see how the humidity goes
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13996222 - 02/20/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright its been 24 hours coming 3pm and im about take the cakes out and roll in dry verm..Im gonna sterilize the verm in the oven at 350F for how long? And should i have an aluminum foil cover in what i sterilize it in?
I dont want to roll the cakes in the verm in my kitchen because my kitchen is really dirty, and i have to soak perlite and fill a SGFC with it and also wash the SGFC in the same sink area which is dirty.
Im doin it in 30mins tho
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13996559 - 02/20/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Should i clean my FC with bleach/water or just dish soap and water?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13996740 - 02/20/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does it matter that they are still in the water I spaced and im sterilizing the dry verm in my oven at 350F right now and it will be cooled down hopefully soon. That'll be about 2 hours overdunked.
Should i clean the FC with bleach/water or dish soap/water?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#13998010 - 02/20/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Soap and water is fine. Fully colonized cakes are supposed to be really tough and hard to contam. I never even baked the verm before.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#13998060 - 02/20/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would clean it with more than soap and water before I use it.....Maybe with alcohol or bleach water just to be safe (but I am an anal mofo when it comes to cleaning)....Always bake your dry verm too before you roll
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14000484 - 02/21/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It might be just me but my cakes seem kinda dry I dont know i'll just keep fanning/misting 3-4-5 times a day and will see how it goes.
I just birthed another 2 cakes lastnight at 10pm and i will roll those in dry verm later today. Should i only dunk for 12 hours this time?
Exactly how much should i be fanning and misting? How hard of a fanning and how hard of a misting?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14001715 - 02/21/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Should i dunk these cakes for 12-16 hours this time or a full 24? The room i have the FC in is really really dirty and i mean dirty.
It was a room that someone kinda failed to grow in and there is still alot of soil like pounds of soil in tubs just sitting in the room with clothes and shit and dust and hair every where.
But thats the only place to fruit other than the closet im incubating in. But closets have shitty air flow.
Here are some pics of my FC and the sad environment it is in. Remember i had nothing to do with this room and i think it is sad.
My FC with the 2 cakes dunking on the left in that white container, and the mister on the right

And the sad environment i have my FC in

It really is uncleanable within 1 day so i said f it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14001742 - 02/21/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I remember my first bier"

hahaha
good stuff.. cant wait to see the mushies
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14001787 - 02/21/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Does it matter that my perlite is really uneven? I will be putting 2 more cakes in there and one of them is going on that corner with less perlite.
Will that effect its growth?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14001827 - 02/21/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you need a uniform layer of perlite, and it shouldnt be puddled up on the bottom.. i mean, a tad is ok, but not alot..
and yeah.. in order to get even distribution, it should be fairly level.. no perfect.. but it shouldnt have any major dips..
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14002279 - 02/21/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I fanned/misted once at 9am, again at 12pm, and im about to at 3:30pm and then again at like 6:30pm and again before i go to sleep. Is this too much fanning and misting or too little?
Should i not mist as much as i fan? Can i really SOAK my cakes when i mist or am i trying to avoid water droplets landing on them?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14003499 - 02/21/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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So is misting the cakes heavily harmful? Can i allow water so soak on the tops?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14003521 - 02/21/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I usually mist at the same time I fan. I do both at 7, 12, 5, and 10. I also keep my grow in a closet with a fan on high at all times because it helps with FAE. You can never have too much FAE, it is what makes your fruits get large and healthy. It might even help with how many pins you get. Good luck!
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14003550 - 02/21/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You dont want to saturate your cakes unless they are just being birthed after a dunk and roll, thats the only time you want to saturate your cakes with water so the verm gets moist. My friend fans then mists then fans again for a good 30 secs. make sure you spray from a good foot away and just make it look like the cakes are glistening, then make sure to fan and leave them alone for a couple hours and repeat. My friend already has pins on one of her cakes after only 2 days in the FC with this method  GL!
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: ihatethis]
#14003563 - 02/21/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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`So i can fan the shit out of it more than just 4 times a day? The more i fan the better? Shit i'll fan it every time i think about it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14003640 - 02/21/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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OregonChronic said: `So i can fan the shit out of it more than just 4 times a day? The more i fan the better? Shit i'll fan it every time i think about it.
FAE is the most important pinning trigger because it help evaporate water on the cakes triggering it to pin. its even more important than the rh level in your terrarium. If you wanna get crazy with the fanning, id say once an hour lol. remember that you want your cakes to get some of the water as well, so once an hour should be fine if you wanna get creative. usually 5 times a day will be fine depending on the rooms air flow. if the room gets poor circulation then fan more etc. sorry for the drawn out super long post
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: lil.brooke92]
#14004527 - 02/21/11 10:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am about to roll the two cakes i dunked lastnight in dry verm and put them in the FC in about 30mins...Im using jar lids to set the cakes on instead of aluminum foil.
Should i make sure each cake has a level amount of perlite under each one. Because if you look back in the thread you'll see how my perlite is off whack.
I wonder how long till i see pins Ima just blaze blunts and wait i guess 
That reminds me too...we smoke alot of blunts and even with the window open the room got kinda hotboxed in here and i got 1 last jar left still colonizing in the top of my closet. Blunt smoke wont hurt it too bad will it?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14004572 - 02/21/11 10:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think it would hurt smoking once in a while....But don't hotbox your room all the time
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14004573 - 02/21/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think smoke will hurt them, I can't imagine it being all cheech and chong up in there unless you have some really crappy weed that requires alot to get high from.
Don't worry about the perlite level. If you get bored you can make little hills and valleys in it. An uneven perlite surface has more surface area than a flat plane, so that's more surface for moisture to evaporate from.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#14004894 - 02/21/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I just rolled the two other cakes in dry verm and placed in the FC...when i put them in there i misted the shit outta all the cakes and one of them is soaked with water on the top. Is that bad? Ive been fanning alot try to evaporate it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14005039 - 02/22/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't fan away all the humidity, just come back in an hour and fan again. Don't mist them again till it dries allot. If you let it evaporate it might trigger some pins. Just don't keep them soaked and you should be fine.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14005371 - 02/22/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is the thing...one of the cakes got soaked on the top and it looks really wet...but the other cakes are really dry looking 
I was fanning the shit out of them so i guess i'll just wait till tomorrow morning and mist. But if that specific cake is still soaked should i go to mist again?
I really dont know how it got that wet
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14005379 - 02/22/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If the perlite starts drying out, how can its moisture be replenished?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14005474 - 02/22/11 02:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You spray it with your mister on almost stream setting and move it around with your hand and repeat.(remove cakes if necessary) your SGFC should be good for at least a month with the over spray from misting, mist your cakes from a foot away and allot misses the cake and your cakes don't get drenched if you don't get carried away. I myself instead of misting my cakes, I mist the sides of my FC and it seems to get the cakes just enough when the sides are wet and it keeps perlite wet.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14005495 - 02/22/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fan first and if that cake is still soaked try and miss it if the others are dry, remember you want the water to evaporate so they will pin, don't keep them wet, wet is not a pinning trigger. Mist a very very fine mist from a foot or more away until you see tiny dew drops on white myc. Then fan for 30 seconds and it should be mostly dry.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14005869 - 02/22/11 04:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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if your misting properly your perlite should not dry out...each time you mist the overspray should be going down into your perlite..
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: biologys]
#14006920 - 02/22/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I fanned the fuck out of the wet cake lastnight and just said f it and went to sleep when it was still wet like the pic. I woke up this morning at 10am and it was more dry but not totally dry yet.
It was dry enough to mist the shit out of again and fan like a mo'fucka. Does it matter that water pools up on the sides of my FC walls? There is an "indent" on the tops of the walls where it builds up pools of water that sit for awhile unless i wipe them up.
Is that bad?...My cell is charging right now so i cant take any pics. The pin which is my avatar pic is growing a brown colored rounded cap. I hope it matures nicely
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14007822 - 02/22/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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OregonChronic said: I fanned the fuck out of the wet cake lastnight and just said f it and went to sleep when it was still wet like the pic. I woke up this morning at 10am and it was more dry but not totally dry yet.
It was dry enough to mist the shit out of again and fan like a mo'fucka. Does it matter that water pools up on the sides of my FC walls? There is an "indent" on the tops of the walls where it builds up pools of water that sit for awhile unless i wipe them up.
Is that bad?...My cell is charging right now so i cant take any pics. The pin which is my avatar pic is growing a brown colored rounded cap. I hope it matures nicely
You want to have water on the walls and lid of your fruiting chamber, it helps with the humidity. im not sure if i understood what you mean though.. where the water sits on the walls its making the walls indent? ive never had that problem but im a noob myself. i dont imagine that should happen though unless your walls are thin, or your spraying it with a chemical?  it seems you are doing fine though, you have made it this far which a lot of noobs have trouble getting to this point. congrats.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: lil.brooke92]
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no i meant my fruiting chamber has a natural curve in the top where water builds up pretty thickly...is that bad?
I'll just keep misting and fanning and we'll see how the mushies grow
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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I don't see that as being a bad thing, unless lot of the water is dropping directly on the cakes then just make sure to fan. probably only mist a few times a day. morning afternoon and night, stand a good foot or 2 away and sprat down until they glisten with tiny water spots then fan the shit out of it. just my personal preference though :p
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: lil.brooke92]
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This was the big invitro pin that is my avatar...this is the cake that keeps getting its top SOAKED whenever i mist can you tell by the pic?

Which way is that mushroom gonna grow? I hope it doesnt grow into the perlite and raise the cake up....
One of the other cakes are pinning too but its too small to take a pic right now.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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it should curve out instead of growing into the perlite
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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You need to go to the hair section of your local department store and buy a high pressure mister lol you are drowning that cake. Your just determined for that to be the only shroom on that cake this flush aren't you...
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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thecbc said: it should curve out instead of growing into the perlite
It will grow towards airflow and fresh air, I think he is using SGFC in which fresh air comes through the bottom, mine is doing the same thing it was invitro too.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
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oh really, my bad. ive always had them curve right back up as they mature. but im still kind of a noob anyways.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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thecbc said: oh really, my bad. ive always had them curve right back up as they mature. but im still kind of a noob anyways.

I am just going by what RR told me once, he said that they will grow towards the fresh air and mine is still growing downward although it has pulled away from the cake some. Who knows I might wake up tomorrow with it touching the top of the FC lol.Wishful thinking
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14011707 - 02/23/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I see you are growing, same here, though there have been reports of another cyan fruiting. Keep up the good work, I just got my first cube harvest.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: demon66]
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Just an update of the main pin growing...there are other pins but they are too small and premature to take pics

And for lighting i am using natural sunlight through my window but on certain days like today it is really cloudy and it makes it almost no lighting in the room 

Im about to smoke a bowl of some perma frost and jack frost and set up a 6500K flourescent
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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good luck buddy
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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Nice man, cant wait til i can birth, should be 2 weeks at the latest. Good luck with yours
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
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more often than not it will right itself before the cap opens.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: k00laid]
#14027347 - 02/25/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The stem on the invitro pin all of the sudden fattened up bad after i set up the flourescent light on em. I dont know if it was the light or what but it all of the sudden deformed itself to a FAT stem

Does this water standing on the top of my cake matter? It always builds up right here on this spot. Should i add sterilized dry verm to it to soak it up?

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14027414 - 02/25/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you do not want water pooling...you could add a bit of verm to absorb some of it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: biologys]
#14028206 - 02/25/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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have you considered flipping the cake with the one growing upside down? its gonna get so big it's going to knock your cake over...
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: ihatethis]
#14031410 - 02/26/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya i might flip it but there is a smaller pin growing upwards right by the huge upside down one so that pin would then grow into the perlite. But i'll flip it because that pin is so small it doesnt even matter it'll grow upwards in time.
...There is either blue bruising or hopefully not green mold on a cake i birthed later than the ones fruiting. It hasnt developed pins yet but it has a bluish/greenish tinge on the mycelium and i hope it isnt green mold.
It looks rather to be more the mycelium itself being the color rather than the color "sitting on top" of the mycelium so i think it might be bruising. Probably from when i bumped that cake earlier.
I'll just have to wait and see if it grows into green because its too small to take pics right now.
But other than that here is a pic of some of the main pins

And this other cake has a pin trying to grow into the perlite also and i actually had to pick the cake up today and dig a hole into the perlite where it could grow more...just like the other one

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14031558 - 02/26/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does it seem like they are trying to open their veils a bit too early? It looks like the veils are trying to tear already ...I'll take some pics
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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...There is either blue bruising or hopefully not green mold on a cake i birthed later than the ones fruiting. It hasnt developed pins yet but it has a bluish/greenish tinge on the mycelium and i hope it isnt green mold.
It looks rather to be more the mycelium itself being the color rather than the color "sitting on top" of the mycelium so i think it might be bruising. Probably from when i bumped that cake earlier.
I'll just have to wait and see if it grows into green because its too small to take pics right now.
If you have a magnifying glass look at the spot, if it looks like it is sand sitting on top of the myc it is most likely contam, if the color is in the myc itself its most likely a bruise. Most mold would double its size or take over the cake in a day or two.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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OregonChronic said: Does it seem like they are trying to open their veils a bit too early? It looks like the veils are trying to tear already ...I'll take some pics
I'll be back 
u will know when the veil is starting to break, u will see it stretch out from the stem, and get thin. The cap will start to get bigger and flatter too.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: downhome]
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Alright so the blue went away and it wasnt green mold it was blue bruising...My main problem i have now is my FC is too smal and the mushrooms are growing into each other/and also the perlite.
Im about to flip the one with the upside down mushroom so it can open its cap growing upwards,...but should i be careful when handling the cake? I dont want to touch the cake too hard when i flip it.
And those mushrooms growing into each other...how should i fix that? I will for sure go out and buy a 63qt FC for next flush because this crammed shit is just bullcrap
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14036269 - 02/27/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They look fine to me, I would just maybe spin the ones that are growing into each other and dig into the perlite under the ones that are touching it. I read somewhere that it isn't good to flip a fruiting cake but I could be wrong
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14036529 - 02/27/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does it matter that there is perlite on the top of the mushroom cap in the corner growing into the perlite. There is perlite sitting on the top of the cap should i wipe it off with my finger or what? With washed hands of course.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14036611 - 02/27/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OregonChronic said: Does it matter that there is perlite on the top of the mushroom cap in the corner growing into the perlite. There is perlite sitting on the top of the cap should i wipe it off with my finger or what? With washed hands of course.
Might damage the shroom either way, leaving it on or taking it off, your call, I myself just removed 2 pieces from a cap with a sterile knife heated in a blue flame. I did however make two marks where I had to pry out the perlite because it was beginning to engulf it. The cap is doing fine with its scars tho.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14037054 - 02/27/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just re-arranged all the cakes and kept accidently touching them and bumping the mushrooms alot so i just wiped off the perlite with my finger but there is still a couple pieces on there..You can see the perlite on the mushroom in the vid
I touched most of the mushrooms by bumping them with my hand on accident while i was re-arranging the cakes but here is a vid of them after the re-arrangement
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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I dont know if the perlite is causing the little dimple on it or what but is the perlite bad being on the mushrooms?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14037312 - 02/27/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems like its not on there too good, cant you just lightly brush it off?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
#14037628 - 02/27/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya i brushed it off...
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14043421 - 02/28/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn they really do grow really fast at this stage. As the veil tears you can watch it grow like every other hour. I'd make a timelapse but my cell battery died.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14044103 - 02/28/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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After a few hours of drying a little dark spot appeared on the cap of the mushroom. What is this? It was the same mushroom with perlite on its cap so maybe that has something to do with it.

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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Caps wrinkle and get dark spots, nothing to worry about. Congrats on your first grow!
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#14044340 - 02/28/11 06:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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When should i harvest these? I keep reading about picking them right when the caps open and before all the spores drop for some reason but why?
Should i pick them now because there is little bits of spores dropping on the stems already so i imagine by the morning there'll be spores everywhere.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14044515 - 02/28/11 07:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have heard they are most potent right after the veil starts to break?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14044885 - 02/28/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends on if you value potency or weight. If you pick them right when the veil breaks, it will weigh less but be FIRE, but you can also wait it's at full maturity when the cap is fully horizontal. This is to get the most weight out of your fruits which is what I prefer
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: ihatethis]
#14044923 - 02/28/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends on weather you want to throw up more or throw up less...
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14050971 - 03/01/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I picked all the mushrooms practically and left the one big invitro one to tear its veil. How long should i dunk the cakes for the 2nd flush? And should i roll in new verm?
And what do i do if 1 cake in the FC has small pins just forming but i need to dunk the other ones?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14051101 - 03/01/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have read full 24 hour dunk, don't roll, and it ok to dunk with pins on as long as you are gentle they will most likely survive and not abort after first flush. I also read never roll a pinning cake in verm because it could cause the pins to abort.
Just what I remember reading...
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14051150 - 03/01/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OregonChronic said: When should i harvest these? I keep reading about picking them right when the caps open and before all the spores drop for some reason but why?
Should i pick them now because there is little bits of spores dropping on the stems already so i imagine by the morning there'll be spores everywhere.
Now or tomorrow morning?

Actually you should pick right when the veil breaks, of course everyone covered this already. BTW, not to nitpick (but to educate), spores don't just drop, they're shot out at high velocity. The basidia in the gills are like spore cannons and launch those mofos hard. I can't find the link now, but I found a youtube video before of microscopic slow motion and a calculation of the force...needless to say it's super high.
Since the spores are elliptical, and are shot out with great force, they can land on top of the cap (and frequently do, forming cool patterns).
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#14051238 - 03/01/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got a mushroom still in the FC with its veil in the process of tearing right now. Should i pick it now? I like to watch them mature.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14051424 - 03/01/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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congrats on the first harvest nice beefy looking shroom there
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 4204ME]
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14052326 - 03/02/11 12:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice dude! Im stoked for you finally getting the fruits of you labor. I have a couple jars that are ready for the consolidation week so im not too too far away from seeing my first ever harvest. Good luck with the rest of your grow bro
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14052407 - 03/02/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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3n1gm4 said: I have read full 24 hour dunk, don't roll, and it ok to dunk with pins on as long as you are gentle they will most likely survive and not abort after first flush. I also read never roll a pinning cake in verm because it could cause the pins to abort.
Just what I remember reading...
With reguards to not rolling a pinning cake....The main reason behind this is because verm is sharp and can cut the mushroom. 2nd reason probably being that if you do roll in verm it can possibly water log that pin when you give it a nice saturating mist afterwards when you place it in the FC.....What I do if I have a pin before the the first roll (using clean medical gloves) is hold the cakes with one hand and take my other hand and dump handfuls of verm all over the cake minimizing the amount that goes on the pin....This way you still get the verm all over the cake, you arent rolling it and risking cutting the mushroom, and you don't put a shitload of verm on the pin that will drowned it when you give it the first full mist....
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14052512 - 03/02/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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congrats on your grow, looks a little better than mine right now
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
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nice grow
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: thecbc]
#14054298 - 03/02/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the kind replies  
So i picked the the mushroom tearing its veil lastnight


That same cake was the cake that had 2 new pins on it so i left it with pins in the FC and dunked the three bare cakes for 24 hours
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14054310 - 03/02/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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siiiiiiickness!
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14054552 - 03/02/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This proves that just about anybody can grow mushrooms using the PF tek...The inoculation to this grow went very failure My glovebox i was trying to use was a 23qt container like my FC.
When i went to inoc, the syringe wouldn't fit in the glovebox and i accidently stuck the plastic side with the needle accidently squirting some spores
So i had to take all the jars out of the glove box to inoc in open air and when i went to inoc in the first inoc hole,...the syringe was jammed so i pushed real hard and it squirted like half the syringe into the first inoc hole
So i carefully inocd the rest 5 jars with the only 5ml of spore solution i had left. And i told myself that if this grow went successful that the PF tek is foolproof to anyone 
And my house is about the dirtiest house you could ever imagine when it comes to trying to grow mushrooms. I got 2 DIRTY flea covered dogs, so much cats i cant even count off the top of my head, a kitchen that had oranges COVERED with green mold during the inoculation.
And i fruited the cakes in an old room that someone failed to grow in and left it the dirtiest room you'd ever think of filled and packed with dust and containers filled with old soil that probly has tons and tons of bacteria/mold in it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14055892 - 03/02/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds like you need a tek for housekeeping.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#14058051 - 03/03/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just put the 3 cakes from the dunk back in the FC for a 2nd flush and already i see a pin fresh out the dunk And the cake on the right is the one that had pins on it when i went to dunk the other 3

I will dunk that cake for 24 hours also whenever i pick the mushrooms off of it. Im trying to let them mature since PF tek doesn't yield too much weight.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14058222 - 03/03/11 02:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lookin good buddy, grats on pulling your first harvest . I got a question for you, how big is your FC? Like the length and width in feet/inches? Im getting ready to birth next weekend and want to get all my supplies for my SGFC this weekend but idk how many and how big i should go with. I have 18 cakes colonizing, ideally id like to do each strain in its own FC (2 strains of 9 cakes a each), and would like to only have 2 chambers so i wanna kinda compare what you have to what i would need.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
#14061061 - 03/03/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I picked the two mushrooms that were once pins when i dunked my other cakes and now that cake is dunking until tomorrow 

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14084747 - 03/08/11 01:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So there is new pins popping up on the 1 cake out of the 4 in the FC that never really fruited during the first flush so i dunkd it with the others that did and now that cake is pinning finally after the dunk. I also have another fifth cake that is still consolidating.
Here are the new pins

I have a question about air flow through the bottom of the perlite...Is this enough room for air to flow?

Here is the dry weight so far from the first flush off of 3 cakes...11.8grams
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14084789 - 03/08/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That should be enough room for air to pass through but raising it a little couldn't hurt. Also I would dig to the lowest spot on the bottom making a spot with no perlite, if water pools then your perlite is too wet and you need to drain the excess water or it will keep the air from entering the holes it is swamping. I know a fast easy way to drain excess if you are swamped, without even removing the cakes.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14097496 - 03/10/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is this green goo coming out my mushroom though? This might be the end of the grow right here. I was letting these pins mature and i woke up this morning to green goo oozing out the top of a mushroom that was previously mutated the day before and now the mutation is oozing green.

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14097548 - 03/10/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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eww.. clean up.. clean = success
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097575 - 03/10/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well the room they are fruiting in is sadly dirty and someone is supposed to be cleaning it soon when i get my mushies outta there..But can anyone tell me what the green goo is and if it is safe to leave it in there with my other cakes/pins?
Is it safe to eat any pins that grow off that same cake or any pins in that entire FC? Any future flushes will be safe still? Or no? And i will clean the shit out of my house before the next grow to prevent this from happening.
Just what is it and is my entire grow fuckd is what i want to know?..
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14097617 - 03/10/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/5276/What-are-common-contaminants-of-the-mushroom-culture
It just looks like a mutant to me, the green color may be blue showing through from a bruise. Smell it if it has a funny odor chuck it, if you don't trust it, when in doubt throw it out.
Reading this may help.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0961079800/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
If it is an infection and not just moisture oozing from a wound it is most likely bacterial. I would just pick them and smell them, if it is an infection it will most likely have a foul odor. Don't know what it is, so if you can't find out from a TC by posting a pic of it in the contam forum I myself wouldn't eat it.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14097622 - 03/10/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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eh.. i wouldnt eat it if its got goo. ewww..
and keep your mushy grow area away from your cannabis grow chamber (i see it in the background in the pic.. wooden box, vent tube not hooked up to the hole.. ).. lol.. they just dont need to be in the same area as eachother.. especially if it looks like that.. no offense..
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14100625 - 03/10/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's clearly bacterial blotch on that cap, do not eat that one. Maybe you coughed on it or something when you were fanning, who knows. This pic looks like your cap only it's not open. Look at the dark mottled pattern on it. Yuck.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: afrosheen]
#14100819 - 03/10/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well that sucks...does it affect the other pins on the cake or the other cakes at all? Because the other cakes are just starting to pin...
I guess if i see anymore green goo oozing badly i'll call it done but for know i say its good as long as i dont see anymore on any other mushrooms.
Does bacteria spread any spores i should be worried about?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14100961 - 03/10/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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no it doesn't spread
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: biologys]
#14114543 - 03/13/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The 2nd flush is starting...here are some pics...i picked a couple pins that looked like they had bacteria  



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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14114642 - 03/13/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice, what was your total weight for your first flush?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
#14114846 - 03/13/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My first flush got exactly 12 dry grams from 3 cakes...the 4th cake didnt start really fruiting until this 2nd flush so now all 4 cakes are going.
And i got 1 more cake still consolidating. It took forever to colonize but its starting to pin invitro soon. I might put it in the fridge until it warms up a bit outside 
Im about to inoc some more jars pretty soon. I just gotta clean up my house a bit. I need a pressure cooker. For now im stuck with cakes and maybe spawning cakes to bulk. For sure outdoors bulk by a creek somewhere when its warmer.
I hope i have a rainy spring/early summer.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14114921 - 03/13/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice man, i think i might have gone over kill for my first time...i started 18 jars and all of them are gonna make it to fruiting lol, ima have WAY too much for my own use
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
#14115033 - 03/13/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thats very nice though...the only thing i can see being a B with that is some of my mushrooms grew into the perlite and i had to flip/move some cakes. And you got ALOT of cakes so you better hope none of your mushrooms grow into the perlite or you'll be flipping alot of cakes.
You better get a good size FC and alot of perlite to fill it 5" in the bottom and to fit all those cakes. Good luck. You went way bigger than me. I cant wait to see your fruits.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14115049 - 03/13/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah i have a 90 quart FC that took 3 full bags of perlite to get to the 5 inch mark lol. I have 5 cakes in it right now, with the other 13 going in on the 17th...go big or go home i guess haha
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Thrill]
#14115134 - 03/13/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ya you will be seeing fruits pretty soon if you already got cakes in the FC
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14121285 - 03/14/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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3/14/11....2nd flush



They seem small to me...probly not enough humidity. Should i spray my perlite directly to moisten it up a bit? Or maybe water is pooling itself in my holes in the bottom and making it less humid? I'll mist a bit more
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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OregonChronic said: 3/14/11....2nd flush
Should i spray my perlite directly to moisten it up a bit? Or maybe water is pooling itself in my holes in the bottom and making it less humid? I'll mist a bit more
FAE FAE FAE, lol aren't you growing in a closet?
Try setting them near a window with sunlight, crack the window a few times a day or fan more often, not harder.
Yes you can spray your perlite, just feel it and spray it liberally if it feels dry, don't pour water, it will just go straight to the bottom. You could also use a clean box fan wet em down after you harvest and put the fan directly over them for a minute or two a day to help your third flush. If you do use a fan instead of lid then just make sure you have plenty of overs pray when you mist.
As for the perlite all you need is a towel, some paper towels torn into two or three inch wide strips and a flashlight to look th the bottom of the FC to see where the water is standing at. The paper towel twisted up will wick all the moisture from around the holes that you stick them in onto the towel.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14123252 - 03/15/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They aren't fruiting in a closet no...they're in an open room. Is there any ways i could "shock" them to grow more other than fanning like every 2 hours.
Some guy once told me lower the temps real cold right before the caps open and then rise the temps back up right when they open and he said it makes them boom in size...is that true?
I got one more cake which is knotting inside the jar and i think im going to spawn that cake to bulk.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14123318 - 03/15/11 01:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got one more cake which is knotting inside the jar and i think im going to spawn that cake to bulk.
grain LC! > grains > bulk
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Primal Call]
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OregonChronic said: I got one more cake which is knotting inside the jar and i think im going to spawn that cake to bulk.
grain LC! > grains > bulk

i dont have a pressure cooker so i cant do anything but cakes and spawning cakes to bulk
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14124028 - 03/15/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn! next buy?
you could still do an LC with it and expand it to other cakes. one cake to bulk won't get you much.. maybe a 4qt tray? unless that's what you're preferring. good luck either way! 
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
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OregonChronic said: They aren't fruiting in a closet no...they're in an open room. Is there any ways i could "shock" them to grow more other than fanning like every 2 hours.
Some guy once told me lower the temps real cold right before the caps open and then rise the temps back up right when they open and he said it makes them boom in size...is that true?
I got one more cake which is knotting inside the jar and i think im going to spawn that cake to bulk.
If I were you I would get it as close to a window that you could leave open about half an inch without dropping the RH. The will really take off if they get real fresh air instead of just stale room air fanned around. The tiny amount of FAE coming through the window with the indirect sunlight will really make them take off. Doesn't matter if it is freezing outside, RR says he leaves a window cracked 24/7/365 and it actually makes your house feel warmer because it moistens the air, he has also said more than once if you have skinnt stipes then you need more FAE(fanning stale dry air isn't good FAE). Just my opinion, I think they need more "Fresh Air", crack a window and move it a few feet away, make sure to check your RH and temp for the first few hours and move it closer if RH and temp stay good or further away if needed.
I cracked a window in my bedroom and it was freezing outside, I didn't even notice.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14124782 - 03/15/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll do that on the 3rd flush...but this flush is done for now. Its pouring rain outside and its pretty cold. But i guess i will open the window for a good amount of time a day.
Here is a pic of them before i harvest probly tomorrow morning
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14125161 - 03/15/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice, if you put them by the window I bet the would grow an inch before tomorrow.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14125275 - 03/15/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well i cant really move it due to the situation of the room they're in...but i will open the window and let it get real airy. Doing it now.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14128790 - 03/16/11 01:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I harvested them tonight...dunking for the 3rd flush right now. I left the window in the room open so it gets real cold during the dunk.

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14128798 - 03/16/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I saw the first signs of growth on my grain yesterday. WEeeeee! Waiting is fun.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14144203 - 03/18/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I opened the window in the room slightly to let in really fresh oregon air for the cakes. I put them back in the FC like a day ago for the 3rd flush and i have been trying to fan more often. But the temps have been 63F-68F since i have been opening my window in there.
Is 63-68F not good for fruiting cubensis? Or is it all chill? Should i shut the window more often and turn on the heater in the room to let it get to room temp? Or is the mid 60's perfectly fine?
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14144206 - 03/18/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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they will fruit fine in those temp ranges..
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: biologys]
#14148418 - 03/19/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have my cakes set in the 4 corners of the FC right by the holes in the corners. Will this make them pin better or worse? I have been opening the window a few times a day to get fresh air and i put the light on a 12/12 timer along with setting the FC on tall 1/2 pint jars to let air through the bottom. I think that increased the RH by far.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14149221 - 03/19/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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NM looked closer and I see it isn't on ground, my bad.
Edited by 3n1gm4 (03/19/11 04:06 PM)
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: 3n1gm4]
#14227271 - 04/02/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just as i was about to throw the cakes away i came in the room to find some more pins trying to fruit on the 3rd flush. After these mature and are picked im callin it quits
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14227351 - 04/02/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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knowing when to cash in your chips is a good thing.
nice job here OC 
now get to pasteurizing and bulk tubs! 
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: Primal Call]
#14227375 - 04/02/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ya im saving up for a pressure cooker right now. Im going to use this same FC as a SGFC/monotub hybrid and spawn a few jars of either rye or WBS to coir or Hpoo in it. And from there i'll move on to cloning the stem tissue into more rye jars and isolating for LC's and so on.
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14230438 - 04/03/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just an update of the mushies i posted a bit earlier


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Edited by OregonChronic (04/04/11 10:25 PM)
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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14239171 - 04/04/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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So the mushrooms have matured a bit and i took a couple spore prints of two of em and immediately made a B+ spore syringe.
Here is some pics from tonight...i think i will harvest the ones on the top tomorrow morning. Im lettin them fatten up a bit.

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Re: First Pins Pinning In-Vitro! (pics) [Re: OregonChronic]
#14240714 - 04/05/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well done.
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