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OfflineNastyDHL
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do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life?
    #13989360 - 02/19/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have an old friend who is really weirded out by it but i think its just because he is scared of his vampiric nature being revealed.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #13989386 - 02/19/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Not that has ever been verbalized to me. Even when I was presenting some challenging stuff to psychology faculty and fellow students, it was received well. Same with my english courses, I wrote about all sorts of shit after clearing it with the teacher first :lol:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Kickle]
    #13989389 - 02/19/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

its more of a path that i choose and can leave at any moment, but i choose not to leave it.

yes i feel weird


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #13989597 - 02/19/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, most of my friends think that it's just a hobby of mine, while another thinks I'm delusional. For example, my one friend who thinks I'm delusional thinks that I believe in all of this esoteric mumbo jumbo, which I've never claimed to, but jumps to those conclusions because I've said I like Hinduism and other eastern religions: so he jumps and thinks that I worship all these Gods.  :facepalm:
It's kinda hurtful at times to because I'll be talking to another friend of mine who is interested in this stuff with me as well, and my buddy who thinks I'm delusional will just chime in an mock us. :sad: He also questions why my meditation corner has incense. I told him that I like to have a nice smell? That I like to focus on something? And he kept questioning and asking what would happen if I didn't have them. He was wondering if it would inhibit my abliity to talk to Gods if I didn't have the incenses burning. :rolleyes:
He seriously thinks that I've gone off the deep end and that I'm weird.

And he's also the one who loves to go ghost hunting and thinks that my house is haunted. :lol:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Muufokfok]
    #13989747 - 02/19/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I feel weird because there is this superficial idea what meditation is, i just tell them im doing internal martial arts.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #13989837 - 02/19/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #13990261 - 02/19/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't really have a spiritual path, but people think I am weird, like I am some alien among them and not like them.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL] * 1
    #13990292 - 02/19/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

...A hungry one, huh??


I am weird.  I use to babble non-stop about everything I believed to almost make people understand that shits weird I'm weird...  It feels weird man!!:uh:

Then things got so much more complicated and taxing...  And, things are so much weirder than before that I will catch myself thinking I'm sounding weird or acting weird and whats weird is that now I'm like...  This...  This is too wierd.  And, I sense others are thinking this too.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Buben]
    #13990306 - 02/19/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sometimes I feel like I'm living a double life. I mention my out-of-body experiences to my family occasionally and I don't get ridiculed. They know I am into some esoteric stuff, as my room is littered with strange books. I have a few RL friends who I talk about this stuff with a lot - They are on the same page as me. Others I don't bother mentioning it to. People are operating at all different levels. Some people really aren't ready to talk about metaphysics, they are only concerned with the latest episode of Jersey Shore. :lol: They simply don't see this stuff as practical, but for me it is essential. This community is a great outlet for my musings, and I thank all of you for that. :heart:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #13990330 - 02/19/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Nah, I keep my spirituality to myself.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #13991322 - 02/19/11 06:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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NastyDHL said:
i have an old friend who is really weirded out by it but i think its just because he is scared of his vampiric nature being revealed.




Everyone constantly think that I am unrealistic and that my views will change. They are decently smart people and I think they would be entirely correct if I chose to give in to the ease and simplicity/support of an acquisition/ education/professional based life.

I would much rather eliminate my expenses and live basically and devotionally.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Seanfu] * 1
    #13991349 - 02/19/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?



Well, if your living with people sometimes you cant avoid it. If i lived with roommates i would do my best to explain to them what im doing. I would probably just tell them im doing Chi Kung, it sounds cooler and its the same thing as meditation.
I knew a kid that did Buddhist chants it was pretty funny, he would scream from the other room.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #13991362 - 02/19/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I avoid telling friends i do yoga, because they superficially think im doing the yoga in the tight spandex suits that they show in commercials.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #13991393 - 02/19/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no matter what I say I'm weird :lol: there's no turning back now.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #13992265 - 02/19/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?




Once it gets real, one has to be quiet about it in order to avoid shocking the tourists.

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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Middleman]
    #13993329 - 02/19/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why don't you just do what you want?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Muufokfok]
    #13993586 - 02/20/11 12:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Weird.
Something I've been called my entire life.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Lisa1105]
    #13994201 - 02/20/11 04:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you know its kinda funny because at the end of the spiritual pursuit you realize the seemingly dumb people have the right idea :smile:

but yeah i have a way of breaking it down very simply for the lamen, so i've never been called weird or anything.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #13994204 - 02/20/11 04:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

everyone I seem to encounter is hyper athiest/materialist and are offended/angry/dismissive of spirtuality so I usually keep quiet.

Sometimes my anger gets the best of me and I explain to some one exactly why they suck though. (how can you claim to be athiest if you clearly worship yourself? :smirk:)


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #13994957 - 02/20/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you know its kinda funny because at the end of the spiritual pursuit you realize the seemingly dumb people have the right idea :smile:




Whats this?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #13994971 - 02/20/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you know its kinda funny because at the end of the spiritual pursuit you realize the seemingly dumb people have the right idea :smile:

but yeah i have a way of breaking it down very simply for the lamen, so i've never been called weird or anything.



ignorance can be amazing when you are experiencing it at its best (joy, excitement happiness) but when an ignorant mind veers on its course, it is like a boat that cant control is sail or rudder, only being further consumed by fear and anger.
without knowing how to eliminate the causes for these undesirable moments, one will continue the path of the cyclical random uncontrollable existence

some say ignorance is bliss, i say just that statement is bliss


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Lisa1105]
    #13994992 - 02/20/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Weird.
Something I've been called my entire life.




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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Muufokfok]
    #13996867 - 02/20/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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beatnicknick said:
you know its kinda funny because at the end of the spiritual pursuit you realize the seemingly dumb people have the right idea :smile:

but yeah i have a way of breaking it down very simply for the lamen, so i've never been called weird or anything.



ignorance can be amazing when you are experiencing it at its best (joy, excitement happiness) but when an ignorant mind veers on its course, it is like a boat that cant control is sail or rudder, only being further consumed by fear and anger.
without knowing how to eliminate the causes for these undesirable moments, one will continue the path of the cyclical random uncontrollable existence

some say ignorance is bliss, i say just that statement is bliss




I say that bliss is never ignorant, no matter how dumb or intellectual the cause.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #13997456 - 02/20/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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beatnicknick said:
Quote:

BoxyBrown said:
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beatnicknick said:
you know its kinda funny because at the end of the spiritual pursuit you realize the seemingly dumb people have the right idea :smile:

but yeah i have a way of breaking it down very simply for the lamen, so i've never been called weird or anything.



ignorance can be amazing when you are experiencing it at its best (joy, excitement happiness) but when an ignorant mind veers on its course, it is like a boat that cant control is sail or rudder, only being further consumed by fear and anger.
without knowing how to eliminate the causes for these undesirable moments, one will continue the path of the cyclical random uncontrollable existence

some say ignorance is bliss, i say just that statement is bliss




I say that bliss is never ignorant, no matter how dumb or intellectual the cause.




To be ignorant CAN be a strength because it can simplify thought and make life easier to live. It can be bliss in that you are just being. I think that ignorant bliss is broken though when someone encounters an uneasy question or ego check.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Seanfu]
    #13998533 - 02/20/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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To be ignorant CAN be a strength because it can simplify thought and make life easier to live. It can be bliss in that you are just being. I think that ignorant bliss is broken though when someone encounters an uneasy question or ego check.



never,mind


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: auxiliary]
    #13998645 - 02/20/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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auxiliary said:
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Seanfu said:
To be ignorant CAN be a strength because it can simplify thought and make life easier to live. It can be bliss in that you are just being. I think that ignorant bliss is broken though when someone encounters an uneasy question or ego check.



never,mind




elaborate?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Seanfu]
    #13998843 - 02/20/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Seanfu said:
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auxiliary said:
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Seanfu said:
To be ignorant CAN be a strength because it can simplify thought and make life easier to live. It can be bliss in that you are just being. I think that ignorant bliss is broken though when someone encounters an uneasy question or ego check.



never,mind




elaborate?



Hahahahaha you fuckin detective curious guy. I was going to say ignorance would be bliss only without repercussions, but the definition of ignorance is being unaware of actual conditions, it is not defined as having immunity to these conditions. This being said,  Bliss, as the superlative of all things, would be an understanding of all things, including DEATH!!!!!


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: deCypher]
    #14000955 - 02/21/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?




To 'witness,' as the Christians say. I often wear some piece of spiritual jewelry. I used to wear a simple dull grey metal cross with a Star of David in the center. That was when my identity was Jewish Christian. Few people asked me about it. Later, I wore a Celtic encircled cross, and a Jewish secretary asked me why I was wearing a cross at all. I said that I was raised Jewish, but I aspired to be the kind of Jew that Jesus was. When I wore a Kabbalistic Tree around my neck, and I told her it was Kabbalah, her stereotypical Jewish response was, "Those people have a lot of money." An Israeli mother of a student acknowledged the Tree with a smile. I often wear a Tibetan Buddhist bracelet. I used to have a matching ring. My Jewish cardiologist thought the Tibetan script was Hebrew! We all 'construct' reality.

Not only has it been exceedingly rare for anyone to speak with me about spiritual matters over the past 25 or 30 years. When most people visit our home, they ignore the library. I mean, when I've been to homes or offices (like my late analyst's) with a library, I'm extremely interested in looking for books I've never seen. So, spiritual AND intellectual people are so few and far between in my life, that I sometimes just wear an identifying ornament to passively advertise a spiritual message. The practice has been largely ignored. Most people meet their spiritual needs largely by some conventional practice like going to church, synagogue or mosque, and are ethnocentric in that regard. I mean, people very rarely cross these boundaries. I haven't been outspoken about spiritual matters since I was a naive college kid in the early 70s.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #14001511 - 02/21/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah some of my family are a bit weirded out by it i reckon, its natural to fear what you don't understand

My friends all tend to see the changes my mind & body has gone through in a very positive light yet my family seems to only see what they consider negative aspects of it like how my mind haa become a bit emotionally detached from life & general social expectations like striving to get a high paid job, a girlfriend, then make babies with her, then get a mortgage, a family car, be miserable... i think they want me to be 'normal'

I flat out told my mum i'm destined to be a Buddha, get used to it :lol:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Chronic7]
    #14001537 - 02/21/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Story of every Buddha, eh?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Chronic7]
    #14001545 - 02/21/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I flat out told my mum i'm destined to be a Buddha, get used to it :lol:




Lol! u either added that after I made my post or I didn't read the whole thing :lol:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Tony]
    #14001656 - 02/21/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ya'll are making me feel very lucky. After I quit pursuing my career goals, my mom totally accepted it. My dad didn't give a rip either way, he just said, "you're a psychologist whether you pursue it or not. This doesn't really change anything."

The grandfather was the one I wasn't sure about. He funded my college career and still sends money my way. I wrote him a letter describing it to him, and he promptly called my mom and said that he was blown away and that "I am some kid"

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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #14001737 - 02/21/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." -J.L. Picard



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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14001746 - 02/21/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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deCypher said:
I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?




I haven't been outspoken about spiritual matters since I was a naive college kid in the early 70s.




I'm quickly becoming less naive but I am still a college kid.

I think before I was just overwhelmed with what I was aware so that I couldn't help but talk about it.  Nobody around me was seeing what I was seeing so I felt nervously compelled to point out the trainwrecks all around me.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Kickle]
    #14001877 - 02/21/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Ya'll are making me feel very lucky. After I quit pursuing my career goals, my mom totally accepted it. My dad didn't give a rip either way, he just said, "you're a psychologist whether you pursue it or not. This doesn't really change anything."

The grandfather was the one I wasn't sure about. He funded my college career and still sends money my way. I wrote him a letter describing it to him, and he promptly called my mom and said that he was blown away and that "I am some kid"

My only enemy has been myself. Trying to balance necessity out with contentment.




What goals are you pursuing now?


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14001897 - 02/21/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Removing clutter from my life.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #14001982 - 02/21/11 02:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

its funny, i never speak about spirituality apart from on here, and when someone does ask me about it face to face, i usually go totally silent & physically can't speak!

i dont think im ready to speak about it yet, the shroomery is like my buddha training


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Chronic7]
    #14002086 - 02/21/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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its funny, i never speak about spirituality apart from on here, and when someone does ask me about it face to face, i usually go totally silent & physically can't speak!

i dont think im ready to speak about it yet, the shroomery is like my buddha training



"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness." -Dalai Lama

although i actually do go to temple ^_^


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #14002932 - 02/21/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

When I see people weirded out by it, or wanting to attack it or demean it, I see weakness, deep internal weakness.

And no matter what form that weakness has manifested itself in, I take the opportunity to shake that persons world with that metaphorical shadow of theirs, given it's formed from a perception which often has nothing to do with actuality and more so the way they are internalizing a situation and casting their own personal perceptual lens of judgement upon it.
It ain't my issue if they lack objectivity. :shrug:

Not the friendliest thing to do, but. I've always been great at doing it. And they never forget and learn, which is the point. I'm a bit of a fan of "weirding" people out.
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It only bothers me, when someone I am deeply connected with does not understand... It hurts....  :crying:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14003118 - 02/21/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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When I see people weirded out by it, or wanting to attack it or demean it, I see weakness, deep internal weakness.

And no matter what form that weakness has manifested itself in, I take the opportunity to shake that persons world with that metaphorical shadow of theirs, given it's formed from a perception which often has nothing to do with actuality and more so the way they are internalizing a situation and casting their own personal perceptual lens of judgement upon it.
It ain't my issue if they lack objectivity. :shrug:

Not the friendliest thing to do, but. I've always been great at doing it. And they never forget and learn, which is the point. I'm a bit of a fan of "weirding" people out.
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It only bothers me, when someone I am deeply connected with does not understand... It hurts....  :crying:




i wish i could blow peoples mind's away. instead if someone ever asks for advice or im in a deep convo about metaphysics ill throw out a really deep analogy that will make them think.

im just more focused on compassion. i realized while driving home just a bit ago, i love making people happy.
i love it
and love expands and opens the dna strands, rather than contracting it like fear does.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Muufokfok]
    #14003469 - 02/21/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i tend not to mention spirituality because people get freaked out by the term. regardless ive always been the somewhat weird one of my friends. nowadays people just joke about how i like to philosophize and thats ok with me. i've never wanted to be normal anyway


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Muufokfok]
    #14003737 - 02/21/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i wish i could blow peoples mind's away. instead if someone ever asks for advice or im in a deep convo about metaphysics ill throw out a really deep analogy that will make them think.

im just more focused on compassion. i realized while driving home just a bit ago, i love making people happy.
i love it
and love expands and opens the dna strands, rather than contracting it like fear does.




I understand... It's more toward the people who attack me (Or unknowingly, themselves.) that I mirror the same kind of energy back and am aggressive with my knowing.
I guess it depends upon the nature of the lesson.

I definitely prefer the more gentle route of teaching, I think extending things in love and compassion are way better for ones well being. It's like making love versus being blunt with your feelings when they really don't get it, but need to. One needs to be pushed and isn't always pretty... Like what "bad trips" on entheogens teach. The other like making love, the message being conveyed is mutually understood and gently delivered. :wink:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Chronic7]
    #14003993 - 02/21/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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its funny, i never speak about spirituality apart from on here, and when someone does ask me about it face to face, i usually go totally silent & physically can't speak!

i dont think im ready to speak about it yet, the shroomery is like my buddha training



Yeah i have nothing to say to. I explain to them, but for some reason when i tell them they completely loose interest or i or they start spacing out. I start stuttering, and like yeah "i like did my meditation and its totally helping me feel better". They are like ... uhh ok.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14004005 - 02/21/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ive never been one to be a fast thinker, my retorts could always be better when given more time for thought. ive recently given up on trying to teach people about the fucked up things going on in the world, and why spirituality(especially buddha's words) seems to be the only thing that makes sense to me.

people my age generally just dont care and just want happiness now.
maybe they have the right idea  :raver:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: NastyDHL]
    #14004010 - 02/21/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't tell people who aren't into spirituality about my mystical dabblings.  What would be the point?




I haven't been outspoken about spiritual matters since I was a naive college kid in the early 70s.




I'm quickly becoming less naive but I am still a college kid.

I think before I was just overwhelmed with what I was aware so that I couldn't help but talk about it.  Nobody around me was seeing what I was seeing so I felt nervously compelled to point out the trainwrecks all around me.




Becoming a prophet of doom, or of nihilism, or one who is simply a nay-saying cynic, pointing out the futility of everyone's rather banal dreams, is not exactly a very spiritual trip. It is better to internalize these perceptions oneself, as they will result in a useful detachment from the world. It would not be possible for me to continuously enter into the attachment based suffering of kids' lives if I didn't have a very real sense of detachment, while at the same time being genuinely sympathetic and empathetic. Part of me ceaselessly feels, "It doesn't matter." If I became emotionally attached to the pain I hear, it would be like trying to save a drowning man by jumping into the water and being pulled down to my own destruction. I need to remain anchored to a solid foundation, and from there to extend a hand to pull him out. Realizing the basic motivations of fear and death anxiety - and all the "Atman Projects" -  the attempts to ensure some fantasy of immortality will help develop dispassion. Children, grandchildren, family businesses, dynasties, and legacies, are all, no more than tombstones. These are the things that could never keep me interested in staying alive. They are little more than the socio-biological imperative to reproduce and bond into family units. Wolves and other mammals do the same. Of all these games, there is what Robert DeRopp called The Master Game. It is the only game that has kept me in the game of life.

http://www.livereal.com/spiritual_arena/spiritual_members/master_game.htm


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14004586 - 02/21/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That reminds me of Ram Dass' talk of balancing burning compassion with cold intellect.

IME, Spirituality does not improve life, it derails it; at first anyway.
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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Middleman]
    #14005935 - 02/22/11 05:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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That reminds me of Ram Dass' talk of balancing burning compassion with cold intellect.

IME, Spirituality does not improve life, it derails it; at first anyway.
Spirituality isn't about mastering the game, it's about finding the Exit.




Yeah, I'm sure his clarification on what goes on inside is a part of my own intellect. He was very influential in my life. Being an INTP and a 'King of Hearts' (Susan Zannos' Enneagrammatic Type), which describes 'the intellectual aspect of the Emotional Center,' based on Gurdjieff''s work, probably makes me temperamentally suited for what I do, if I break down the ratio of heart and mind systematically.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14008245 - 02/22/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Raven Gnosis said:
When I see people weirded out by it, or wanting to attack it or demean it, I see weakness, deep internal weakness.

And no matter what form that weakness has manifested itself in, I take the opportunity to shake that persons world with that metaphorical shadow of theirs, given it's formed from a perception which often has nothing to do with actuality and more so the way they are internalizing a situation and casting their own personal perceptual lens of judgement upon it.
It ain't my issue if they lack objectivity. :shrug:

Not the friendliest thing to do, but. I've always been great at doing it. And they never forget and learn, which is the point. I'm a bit of a fan of "weirding" people out.
:satansmoking:

It only bothers me, when someone I am deeply connected with does not understand... It hurts....  :crying:




They understand... :smile:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Raliegh]
    #14010651 - 02/22/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I guess it all the depends on the way you say it and when you say it, you have to time it right if you are going to speak about your spiritual pursuits or philosophies. For example you can't smoke meth and then speak to your friends about doing "right". It just doesn't happen that way.

I have learned my lesson of letting others know your business. Im sure there are people to speak to about these things but they are rare and you will not find them in bars. I try to keep my words and my pursuits to myself nowadays. My family doesn't need to know and my friends don't need to know. I find my life is much simpler that way. By the way why talk to people about things you yourself do not really know? The best teaching i have ever heard has been to "keep quiet", i can see now why many masters of our time have said it, because in reality we know jack Sh*T.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: zZZz]
    #14010671 - 02/22/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14012362 - 02/23/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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its funny, i never speak about spirituality apart from on here, and when someone does ask me about it face to face, i usually go totally silent & physically can't speak!

i dont think im ready to speak about it yet, the shroomery is like my buddha training



Yeah i have nothing to say to. I explain to them, but for some reason when i tell them they completely loose interest or i or they start spacing out.




I get this all the time, whenever i explain anything lengthy to anyone they space out, i've learned to find it slightly funny though, better than making them tense up


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Chronic7]
    #14023304 - 02/24/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Strangely enough, I'm the only one who thinks I'm spiritual. I don't follow any specific variety of spirituality, but I do consider myself spiritual in the sense that I'm constantly searching, questioning, and trusting my intuition.

What I perceive as 'being spiritual' my family and friends interpret as being some form (or combination) of being: immature, aloof, hippy-ish, idealistic, romantic, quixotic, esoteric, and occultish.

It's like my spirituality is hiding out in plain sight.


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: ShroomScape]
    #14023883 - 02/25/11 03:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Strangely enough, I'm the only one who thinks I'm spiritual. I don't follow any specific variety of spirituality, but I do consider myself spiritual in the sense that I'm constantly searching, questioning, and trusting my intuition.

What I perceive as 'being spiritual' my family and friends interpret as being some form (or combination) of being: immature, aloof, hippy-ish, idealistic, romantic, quixotic, esoteric, and occultish.

It's like my spirituality is hiding out in plain sight.




I know exactly what your talking about... Silly people. :rolleyes:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14045245 - 02/28/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ShroomScape said:
Strangely enough, I'm the only one who thinks I'm spiritual. I don't follow any specific variety of spirituality, but I do consider myself spiritual in the sense that I'm constantly searching, questioning, and trusting my intuition.

What I perceive as 'being spiritual' my family and friends interpret as being some form (or combination) of being: immature, aloof, hippy-ish, idealistic, romantic, quixotic, esoteric, and occultish.

It's like my spirituality is hiding out in plain sight.




I know exactly what your talking about... Silly people. :rolleyes:




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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #14045408 - 02/28/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Raven Gnosis said:
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ShroomScape said:
Strangely enough, I'm the only one who thinks I'm spiritual. I don't follow any specific variety of spirituality, but I do consider myself spiritual in the sense that I'm constantly searching, questioning, and trusting my intuition.

What I perceive as 'being spiritual' my family and friends interpret as being some form (or combination) of being: immature, aloof, hippy-ish, idealistic, romantic, quixotic, esoteric, and occultish.

It's like my spirituality is hiding out in plain sight.




I know exactly what your talking about... Silly people. :rolleyes:




"I know exactly what you mean."






Perfect. :congrats:


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #14045995 - 02/28/11 11:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The Chronic said:
its funny, i never speak about spirituality apart from on here, and when someone does ask me about it face to face, i usually go totally silent & physically can't speak!

i dont think im ready to speak about it yet, the shroomery is like my buddha training



Yeah i have nothing to say to. I explain to them, but for some reason when i tell them they completely loose interest or i or they start spacing out. I start stuttering, and like yeah "i like did my meditation and its totally helping me feel better". They are like ... uhh ok.


This has been happening to me a lot more often as of late. I'm open to the idea of discussing spirituality with other like minded people but have a hard time explaining it to curious family members/friends. I freeze up and mutter out some half coherent response. Maybe that is a reflection of my own doubts about my spiritual practice.

A quote from the "Cookbook For A Sacred Life" section of Be Here Now:

"Ramakrishna points out that when a tree is very small we protect it by surrounding it with a fence so that the animals do not step on it. Later when the tree is bigger it no longer needs the fence. Then it can give shelter to many."


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: CavemanJohnson]
    #14046100 - 02/28/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The title of this thread is interchangeable with "Do people think you are weird for questioning life?"


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Re: do people think you are weird for your pursuit of a spiritual life? [Re: c0sm0nautt]
    #14046212 - 02/28/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I tried to explain OBEs and the possibility of an afterlife to my mother once or twice and she just got really pissed off.


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The title of this thread is interchangeable with "Do people think you are weird for questioning life?"




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