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PE- Bluing caps (PICS)
    #13989019 - 02/19/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My have been fruiting for five days now and i have noticed a color variation between my younger fruits to my more matured ones. I have read that bluing is a sign to pick so i would like to know if its time to pick off some of these little guys


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: B-Boomer]
    #13989024 - 02/19/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

aborted pins
i'de pick them. 

can we get an wide angle shot of your FC?  it's kinda hard to tell what you are doing for humidity and stuff.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: B-Boomer]
    #13989535 - 02/19/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Personally, I'd probably pick the one at the 5 o'clock position.... but the others I would let grow out a little bit more.  I see some little aborts in the center, but they look kinda like a pain in the ass to pick...


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ambargh]
    #13989888 - 02/19/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

it looks like they all aborted.
Maybe the one at 7 o'clock can grow some more.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: B-Boomer]
    #13989931 - 02/19/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you guys i have picked them all except for the 7 o' clock shroomie.

they weigh out to be 38 grams i was wondering how me: 178 lbs and a girl: 125 lbs should split this up for a good night tonight.
i was thinking 23 for myself and 15 for her but im not sure with this strain. Any advice would be appreciated :mushroom2:


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: B-Boomer]
    #13989948 - 02/19/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i usually eat ~2g (dry) of pe and have a nice night.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #13994303 - 02/20/11 06:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

for first time 1.5 - 2g.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: Hofmann1943]
    #13994367 - 02/20/11 06:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Eh, if it was me, girls on her own, all 38 fresh brewed to tea for me! NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM :awetongue: :raveface:
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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: slapphappypill]
    #13994713 - 02/20/11 09:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Last night quite the experience. I won't get into detail but this girl was blown away with only half of her tea. I happily finished the rest of hers and wow! Loved it


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #13998887 - 02/20/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It looks like they are "bluing" because the surrounding larger fruit bodies are swallowing them up...it appears they are aborting. If swallowed up quickly they will be okay to eat, if not they may rot and/or mold. (from my previous experiences)
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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #13998894 - 02/20/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It looks like they are "bluing" because the surrounding larger fruit bodies are swallowing them up...it appears they are aborting. If swallowed up quickly they will be okay to eat, if not they may rot and/or mold. (from my previous experiences)
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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #13999438 - 02/21/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I hope no one ate 3 grams of PE for their first time with the strain. If so they probably had a pretty terrifying experience.

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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #13999456 - 02/21/11 02:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lol i am growing my own PE on cakes right now and you better damn believe when they grow some shroomies I'm gonna mow down 3 grams... And I CANT WAIT!!!


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: shroomtastic89]
    #13999639 - 02/21/11 05:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't take three grams of PE. You are asking for trouble.

Have fun having a bad trip dood.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: shroomtastic89]
    #13999644 - 02/21/11 05:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Lol i am growing my own PE on cakes right now and you better damn believe when they grow some shroomies I'm gonna mow down 3 grams... And I CANT WAIT!!!



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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: Squash_Noggin]
    #13999662 - 02/21/11 05:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you guys eat 3 grams of PE I want your address so I can come watch. I'll bring the popcorn and the camcorder. It will be a blast! From my perspective. :minigun:

You will think you are watching a horror movie when you view the footage. :laugh2:


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #13999745 - 02/21/11 07:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i find PEs to be nothing incredibly special potency wise.

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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #13999856 - 02/21/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

MoaR 2 it than that though.............

If you took 3 grams of my PE you would be fucked. I give my buddies all the attention and nutrients they need. And I isolate for potency. Even MS PE is a risk.

Say what ever you want. I have seen some serious old school cats loose their shit on that mushroom.

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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #13999896 - 02/21/11 08:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, same here.  I recently decided to take a light dose of my PE with some friends in sort of a social setting, rather than my usual very carefully prepared trip setting with lighting music playlist etc.  I only took 1.5 grams.  No lemon tek or anything like that.  Within about 30 minutes I was having trouble keeping up with conversations, let alone games.  Within 1 hour I literally could not see anyone because of the light show that was in front of me and reality kept unweaving.  All I could do was sit and hold on tight, trying to hold it together.  Pretty soon I had no idea if I was pissing myself or running around like a madman or anything,I had no idea and no connection to reality.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: shroomtastic89]
    #13999938 - 02/21/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Lol i am growing my own PE on cakes right now and you better damn believe when they grow some shroomies I'm gonna mow down 3 grams... And I CANT WAIT!!!



C-A-U-T-I-O-N my freind.  Don't jump into the waters until you know you can swim.

Don't eat 3 grams of PE for your first go around with PE.  PE is on average 2-3 times stronger that your average cubensis.  Go ahead and eat three grams if you like to lose control of your ego and go on a level 5 trip or higher.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: hamloaf]
    #13999960 - 02/21/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My best friend ......

" No bro, that wasn't good, .... It was the most terrified I have ever been. I kept having these religious epiphanies  where I though I was the defender of the universe and the devil was trying to get me". "I then ran to the car and locked myself in. I had thought this girl I was was supposed to be my future wife.... I thought I raped her and the cops were coming to get me."

When my other friend got back to the car after the show got out the one having a bad trip kicked him in the face when he tried to get in the car. The kid broke his nose and knocked one of his teeth out. He didn't even know our buddy was freaking out.

My boy ate 3 grams that night.... So if you so incline be my guest :hatsoff:


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: hamloaf]
    #13999972 - 02/21/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

meh i've done 8ths of pe no problem and im a little guy

i've seen people lose it from normie cubes just as much as with PE.

my most intense trips have been from the guadalajara from ralph.

i know i'm outnumbered here but i feel the whole 2-3x is greatly exaggerated

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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #13999986 - 02/21/11 08:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Funny, ever think that there's any reason you think that you stand alone with your opinion about PE?


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: hamloaf]
    #14000000 - 02/21/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

cause i've never had a bad trip on them?

and i don't stand alone just out numbered http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11856308#11856308

like i said they may be on average stronger than some strains/races whatever but def not the 2-3x as stated

i'm usually a 2g tripper (8th if i need to learn something) and 2g of pretty much anything i've grown gets me to the place i want to be whether it be PE guad SA AA+ tex.... just to name a few.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #14000026 - 02/21/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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cause i've never had a bad trip on them?

and i don't stand alone just out numbered http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11856308#11856308

like i said they may be on average stronger than some strains/races whatever but def not the 2-3x as stated

i'm usually a 2g tripper (8th if i need to learn something) and 2g of pretty much anything i've grown gets me to the place i want to be whether it be PE guad SA AA+ tex.... just to name a few.



I didn't clickey.  My guess is that you and the others ate PE substrains from multispore inoculations that weren't high in potency.  Isolate or clone you a PE specimen.  Then you'll see that PE has a higher level of potencey then that of average cubensis.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14000037 - 02/21/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I wouldn't take three grams of PE. You are asking for trouble.

Have fun having a bad trip dood.




Don't say that :frown: You can advise someone to not do it but if they are going to and have their mind set on doing so, don't tell them they are going to have a bad trip...just make sure they know what CAN happen. Who knows they could be very experienced and be able to handle it. I for one think I could handle 3g of PE due to the fact that I have had multiple experiences at 14g and one at 28g dry of some pretty good potent cubes (not PE but still 28g of good cubes vs 3g of PE I think I would be qualified to handle that. Not saying I would do it for my first dose with PE but I think I could handle it.)


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: hamloaf]
    #14000042 - 02/21/11 09:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

that's true with any strain though.


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    #14000082 - 02/21/11 09:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Haha well I suppose I did drink around 30 grams fresh PE tea with no mental trauma at all.
I actually had an awesome time telling people about my life as they seemed so intrigued because i  usually keep my personal life tightly knitted within myself.
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    #14000117 - 02/21/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Simmering 30 fresh grams is not as intense as eating 3 dried. And Yours were likely BRF.

I grow with horse shit. And Isolate. There is a big difference.

I am talking about experienced people here bro. My buddy isn't a 20 year old or teenager or something. He is 32 years old and has quite a strong mind. I myself am in my 30's and followed the Grateful Dead across this continent for 10 years. I have done more drugs than you would even imagine. I know what I am talking about.

Some people and it is very rare don't respond to mushrooms the same as others.

I had a girlfriend when I was younger who couldn't trip for the life of her. She would eat shrooms all the time and feel nothing. She would have to eat 14 grams and it was equivalent to an 1/8 for her.

Unless you are one of these acceptations I am just saying take heed and proceed with caution. To tell someone to eat an 1/8 PE is not good advice. 

Its not the potency that usually fucks people up with PE. Its how fast it comes on. The shit slams you in 20 minutes you are peeking. This can cause anxiety and that is what triggers the bad experience.
I don't want to get into the psychology behind all this but keep in mind I am as experienced with consuming these things as I am with growing them.

And by the way if you think cubes are strong ..... eat an eighth of Azures and you will wind up either in jail or the hospital with a 90% chance of permanent facial scaring.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14000179 - 02/21/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I get what your saying completely.. I honestly think I had a stronger trip off of 20grams fresh Atlantis Sclerotia although that only consisted of 4 hours of laughter. I was in no way telling people to go after 3 grams of PE just giving my personal experience in it. After all, this is my post.
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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14000244 - 02/21/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Simmering 30 fresh grams is not as intense as eating 3 dried. And Yours were likely BRF.

I grow with horse shit. And Isolate. There is a big difference.

I am talking about experienced people here bro. My buddy isn't a 20 year old or teenager or something. He is 32 years old and has quite a strong mind. I myself am in my 30's and followed the Grateful Dead across this continent for 10 years. I have done more drugs than you would even imagine. I know what I am talking about.

Some people and it is very rare don't respond to mushrooms the same as others.

I had a girlfriend when I was younger who couldn't trip for the life of her. She would eat shrooms all the time and feel nothing. She would have to eat 14 grams and it was equivalent to an 1/8 for her.

Unless you are one of these acceptations I am just saying take heed and proceed with caution. To tell someone to eat an 1/8 PE is not good advice. 

Its not the potency that usually fucks people up with PE. Its how fast it comes on. The shit slams you in 20 minutes you are peeking. This can cause anxiety and that is what triggers the bad experience.
I don't want to get into the psychology behind all this but keep in mind I am as experienced with consuming these things as I am with growing them.

And by the way if you think cubes are strong ..... eat an eighth of Azures and you will wind up either in jail or the hospital with a 90% chance of permanent facial scaring.




I actually have eaten 3g of azures Prof. I'm not knocking what you're saying by any means as I feel I do have an unusually strong mind for my age (19). I wouldn't recommend anything I do to anybody else that is of the same age as I have done my fair share of drugs. I can tell you that even though you have done a lot of drugs and I am not knocking that either, I know how many penises you grow and probably consume yourself, I have eaten just over 380 hits of strong acid at once, 28g of some good potent (normal) cubies at once, 3g of azures (god damn, hell of a night but yes I did do it) and to anyone who thinks I just like to get fucked up and trip too much that is not the truth by any means. All of the intense experiences I have had are for spiritual means. I have been meditating daily (aside from the past 5 months where I have slipped off and need to get back into it) for the past 4 years and am highly spiritual.

This was by no means an insult to anyone I'm just sharing with you prof that a 19 year old may not have the "life experience" of a 30+ year old however I feel that I personally have a strong mind and can handle these substances at high dosages. I am tripping on 9g dry and 30g fresh Brazilians right now (I was coming up at the start of this post but now I am starting to peak and will go into my meditation) I'm just trying to say that not every 19 year old is just trying to "get fucked up" even though the vast majority are and I agree with you, I wouldn't suggest 3g dried PE to anyone but if they are going to do it, send vibes their way rather than saying "have a nice bad trip when you do"


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    #14000264 - 02/21/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14000269 - 02/21/11 10:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1st i never told him to eat an 8th. I only stated my opinion that the whole 2-3x is complete bs (if that were the case 1.1g of PE would be like an 8th.

2nd the whole substrate thing has been debunked (BRF is more nutritious than horse manure yet doesn't produce stronger fruits) and I don't use BRF anymore


3rd though u state your buddy has a strong mind you state he was at a show in public (set and SETTING)

While I may be a 20 something i still consider myself well versed in the world of drugs. lets not play the whole i've done more so i know more game, k?

also i don't notice a faster come up with pe than any other cube.  20min and im starting to feel the effects not peaking

*edit* also 30 fresh tea woulshould be comparable than 3g dry even if you beleive tea will degrade some of the potency.

Fresh > dry


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #14000288 - 02/21/11 10:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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meh i've done 8ths of pe no problem and im a little guy

i've seen people lose it from normie cubes just as much as with PE.

my most intense trips have been from the guadalajara from ralph.

i know i'm outnumbered here but i feel the whole 2-3x is greatly exaggerated

until i get solid evidence  i still believe set and setting are the 2 most important factors




I totally agree with you. In my experience it's all about set and setting. I am sure PP's PE are very strong (no doubt) but that's because of strain isolation not because of PE itself. PE are not pans. I suspect that the 2-3x exaggeration comes from their shape: eating an erect penis can make you feel very strong :wink: There were countless ithyphallic gods in antiquity, because traditionally erect penises were associated to a great, godly power.


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #14000320 - 02/21/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

kinda off topic a little bit but thought I'd mention that PE6 dosn't seem to have the potency that PE is suposed to.  I did grow MS with BRF cakes so maybe that has something to do with it also, and I've only tried it twice so far, once with someone.  I'm going to get some real PE soon though, should MS PE still be more potent or do you have to isolate n whatnot?


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    #14000361 - 02/21/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you can isolate any strain and make it more potent than the average cube but ms pe will work just fine :wink:


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Re: PE- Bluing caps (PICS) [Re: bait_]
    #14000643 - 02/21/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you can isolate any strain and make it more potent than the average cube but ms pe will work just fine :wink:



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