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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #13990281 - 02/19/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

or maybe a worm hole would open them up and theyd have a tea party with the machine elves.

:Awesketch:

we need a machine elves gremlin


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13990300 - 02/19/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Machine elves you say, reminds me of Terrence Mckenna describing his first dmt trip.  Machine elves are bad, trust them and you're gonna have a bad time  :pipesmoke:


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Mush 4 Brains]
    #13990307 - 02/19/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah some guy was talking about terrance mck and said something about machine elves and once the idea was planted in my mind, it has only grown

now i cant picture the fabric of reality being held together without the machine elves floating around doing all the work


JK, but god damn psychadelics really fucking make people think of some awesomly insane ideas


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13990332 - 02/19/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Hakim0777] * 1
    #13990356 - 02/19/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
To be honest with you I think he has a medical condition that needs to be diagnosed. I've smoked that A LOT and 0 side effects... along with countless of my friends, some already doing it for years, while I don't think the jwh series is teribly bad, some people shouldn't be using it for medical reasons. Get him checked out.





Wtf would you know???




the fact that the guy probably had some sort of issue like an absent seizure or maybe an arhythmia, etc...


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Melusina] * 1
    #13990425 - 02/19/11 03:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

A few years ago I had some terrible reaction from smoking natural weed. A couple of minutes after smoking my ears popped inward, my vision hearing and sense of touch blacked out in a oxygen deprived sort of way.

I thought I may have been fucked, but decided to take faster deeper breathes to try to get things working again. I remained conscious and went outside and drank some water someone brought me. Others told me that my lips were white and it looked like I was dieing as well. Not sure what caused this. Could have been dehydration or a blood pressure thing.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Moo456]
    #13990440 - 02/19/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have heard MANY cardiac stories related to 'Spice' or the jwh-xxx chems. they are not safe in the least.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #13990717 - 02/19/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm glad he's OK, but I dont think its the JWH that caused this, I think its his reaction to the JWH.




I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make.



A diabetic eats a chocolate sheet cake.  Dies.  Was the chocolate sheet cake deadly?  No, his reaction to it was.

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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13990735 - 02/19/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ellenallien said:
i've never done it and have no interest.
i think its a total BS FAD to be honest.
kids will do anything to get high these days...
even suffocate themselves
or hangthemselves while they masterbate.
this is what comes to mind when i think of,
lets just call it, "the "potpourri" fake weed bullshit.."



The emboldened part discredits any of the stupid statments you made about it.  It is anything but a fad and until it is made completely illegal it is not going to fade away.  Jwh blends are shitty but buying the pure powder is ridiculously awesome.  A cheap full agonist cannibinoid that will get you higher than any weed on the planet can and you wont fail drug tests for a job is not bullshit. Plus you dont have to deal with asshole dealers who are gonna try and short you on expensive dank and give it to you half wet all the time.  Everytime I used to go buy weed I had to turn it down like 50% of the time and leave with nothing because I wasnt gonna spend my hard earned money on bullshit pretend dank and the fact is if you dont live in a medical marijuana state thats how it is unless you have a good buddy who sells dank and is straight up with you.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Mello Kitty] * 1
    #13990763 - 02/19/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ellenallien said:
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Melusina said:
the "potpourri" fake weed bullshit. I won't touch the stuff.




exactly!
i've never done it and have no interest.
i think its a total BS FAD to be honest.
kids will do anything to get high these days...
even suffocate themselves
or hangthemselves while they masterbate.
this is what comes to mind when i think of,
lets just call it, "the "potpourri" fake weed bullshit.."



I think the reason people are getting :butthurt: about your "opinion" is because you formulated it based on absolutely nothing, filled it with statements that discredit those who use jwh, and then expressed it in such a high-and-mighty way. 


Guess what.  I can't smoke weed.  Guess what, I use JWH products as an alternative.  I'm not some stupid kid who hangs himself while he beats off.  I'm a responsible adult who has been backed into a corner by federal regulations and consequently uses a legal alternative to satisfy what I consider to be a desirable state of mind.

Please, think before you speak.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: LawL mushrooms]
    #13990783 - 02/19/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It’s easier for people to blame a drug than challenge why they may be having severe reactions.

Drugs are always taking the rap for peoples psychological issues and stupidity.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: memes]
    #13990813 - 02/19/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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meams said:
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Kid_Orgo said:
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meams said:
I'm glad he's OK, but I dont think its the JWH that caused this, I think its his reaction to the JWH.




I don't understand the distinction you're trying to make.



A diabetic eats a chocolate sheet cake.  Dies.  Was the chocolate sheet cake deadly?  No, his reaction to it was.




I don't think anyone was saying that JWH will cause any effect whatsoever if you don't ingest it.

OH!

You're saying his reaction was atypical.

You're saying that in this one case if he had a bad reaction, it doesn't mean that the chemical itself was particularly unsafe, but that the guy in question was susceptible to some bad effect.

Gotcha.

I thought you were saying that saying that saying the substance caused something was somehow different than saying "my body reacted to the substance this way," which is a distinction without difference.

EDIT: You could argue that how likely it is that someone will have an awful reaction to a substance is a measure of its safety, though


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #13990844 - 02/19/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Glad i could help clear things up for ya.  :thumbup:  I thought the sheetcake analogy was pretty good.


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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: Moo456]
    #13991169 - 02/19/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Moo456 said:
A few years ago I had some terrible reaction from smoking natural weed. A couple of minutes after smoking my ears popped inward, my vision hearing and sense of touch blacked out in a oxygen deprived sort of way.

I thought I may have been fucked, but decided to take faster deeper breathes to try to get things working again. I remained conscious and went outside and drank some water someone brought me. Others told me that my lips were white and it looked like I was dieing as well. Not sure what caused this. Could have been dehydration or a blood pressure thing.





Low blood pressure...I've gone through this a few times.

Just sit down, focus on having relaxed controlled breathing and the shit will pass over. You won't die, the worse that's going to happen ya faint & pass out for a quick minute. And then probably a head ache after....









No doubt this is what happened to the dude the OP was talking about. Shit could have happened damn near as easily with him smoking weed :shrug:. I don't think the fact that it was a JWH chem had much to do with what happened...

Cannabinoids, synthetic or natural, both have an affect on the cardiovascular system. As far as I know this is really the main health risk associated with cannabinoids...People with blood pressure issues should be cautious.






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Re: Soooo...the fake weed is actually dangerous. I saw someone die for a minute yesterday. [Re: argg]
    #13992207 - 02/19/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I don't think there have been any JWH fatalities either.




Nope. Nobody has ever died from JWH.

JWH has been used pretty heavily for the past 5 years now so we have a pretty good idea of what the short term side effects are. It's the long term side effects we don't know about, like if it really is cancerous or not.

I :heart: JWH.

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