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Nature/Government
    #13986515 - 02/18/11 08:02 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

I am separated from people around me because of my ideas. I feel that argument will either prove me wrong in some aspects, change my opinion, or reassure me of my radical beliefs.

I choose to follow the creator of nature over the creator of law. Nature = Reality      Law = Human moderation to life

However, an opposing argument may be that because of a high population, government is necessary for control.

But this is not life. We are brainwashed. We are detached from the truth. We live inside. Cell phones and celebrities and facebook and pampering for our comforts and luxuries. Nature is hard. Nature is raw and unforgiving but it is the truth, and i want the truth.

Because of this, I feel that the right thing to do is to ignore the law, despite what any delusional mind tells me. To think in terms of practicality, not formality. Some of the things i do are "disgusting" to others but nothing is so wrong about it. (the following person is not anyone specific, but is most everyone)I should walk right up to one of those cell phone bitches with black hair, a fake tan and make-up and destroy her with my words, but with such radically different mindsets or realms of thinking, "words are uttered but fail to enlighten"(huxley) a person like this would not understand what i am talking about. It would be nonsense, and she would regard me as a "weirdo". Well let me say wierdness is strangeness and strangeness is unfamiliarity.

"Let us settle ourselves, and work and wedge our feet downward through the mud and slush of opinion, and prejudice and tradition, and delusion, and appearance, that alluvion which covers the globe... till we come to the hard bottom of rocks in place, which we can call reality."

And if she would wash off her make-up, clear her head of television, facebook, mcdonalds, and all of that filth of the modern day, she might understand what i am trying to say, but as it is now, nobody can hear me. Nobody will listen. Am i a survivor of all of this chaos or am I somehow the delusional one? I am alone

And so there it is, please argue.


Here is the Huxley bit if you dont understand

"We live together, we act on, and react to, one another; but always and in all circumstances we are by ourselves. The martyrs go hand in hand into the arena; they are crucified alone. Embraced, the lovers desperately try to fuse their insulated ecstasies into a single self-transcendence; in vain. By its very nature every embodied spirit is doomed to suffer and enjoy in solitude. Sensations, feelings, insights, fancies--all these are private and, ex- cept through symbols and at second hand, incommunicable. We can pool information about experiences, but never the experiences themselves. From family to nation, every human group is a society of island universes.

Most island universes are sufficiently like one another to Permit of inferential understanding or even of mutual empathy or "feeling into." Thus, remembering our own bereavements and humiliations, we can condole with others in analogous circumstances, can put ourselves (always, of course, in a slightly Pickwickian sense) in their places. But in certain cases communication between universes is incomplete or even nonexistent. The mind is its own place, and the Places inhabited by the insane and the exceptionally gifted are so different from the places where ordinary men and women live, that there is little or no common ground of memory to serve as a basis for understanding or fellow feeling. Words are uttered, but fail to enlighten. The things and events to which the symbols refer belong to mutually exclusive realms of experience."





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Re: Nature/Government [Re: obladi oblada] * 1
    #13986642 - 02/18/11 08:23 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

Your fundamental error of logic is to believe that anything could not be natural.  Evolutionary forces within nature have brought us to this very place. It's perfectly natural however much that may offend your sensibilities.:satansmoking:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Nature/Government [Re: Icelander]
    #13986879 - 02/18/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

You've got a point, and I believe, though i do not know why, that we were meant to have technology and machines, the reason being simply that we have it. But i see how easily the human mind is fooled and baited with instant satisfaction into an artificial, close-minded world, so far into it that they do not understand someone on the other side. It is now illegal therefore disapproved of to pursue actions that make perfect sense.


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Re: Nature/Government [Re: obladi oblada]
    #13987089 - 02/18/11 09:30 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

No evolutionary construct is perfect. Within certain parameters a species will flourish but eventually all will meet a common fate. The fact that many if not all of us suffer emotionally and are unhappy or anxious or at odds with life much of the time is of no consequence to the process.  To us however it is all consuming. :lol: We is silly :monkeydance: Yet we have flourished for it is our time. Enjoy it while it lasts.


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