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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: openmind]
#13987158 - 02/18/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have friends who were broken condom babies.
What about baby daddy rights? Marriage isn't the only way a family is formed now a days.
Even some married people have abortions.
Sometimes an abortion happens for financial reasons, the baby momma finds out the guy doesn't have any money to pay child support.
Or the guy doesn't want to pay child support so he sez hey maybe a baby isn't a good idea.
It is really fucked up. and not in a good way.
A fetus is a person. Maybe before it is a fetus it isn't a person but a fetus that is over 2 or 3 weeks old and starting to squirm around is a person whether you like it or not. It is like saying a pin isn't a mushroom because it hasn't grown tall enough or the partial veil hasn't broken free.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Raw]
#13987175 - 02/18/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Raw said: A fetus is a person. Maybe before it is a fetus it isn't a person but a fetus that is over 2 or 3 weeks old and starting to squirm around is a person whether you like it or not.
How does the fetus feel about affirmative action?
What kind of music does it like?
What kind of guy is it?
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What about baby daddy rights? Marriage isn't the only way a family is formed now a days.
They don't exist. It's a fetus growing inside the mother, a part of the mother's body that could become a person.
If you don't want some bitch aborting your offspring, don't fuck people you wouldn't have kids with.
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Sometimes an abortion happens for financial reasons, the baby momma finds out the guy doesn't have any money to pay child support.
The idea of a child coming into the world without parents that can support it financially and emotionally is way more troubling to me than abortion.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#13987179 - 02/18/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kid_Orgo said: How does the fetus feel about affirmative action?
What kind of music does it like?
What kind of guy is it?
I wonder what it tastes like.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Kid_Orgo] 1
#13987207 - 02/18/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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To be perfectly clear, I don't think abortion is "good," but that kind of sin is between you and God, and there's worse things to do in that situation.
Like have an unwanted baby.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American... [Re: argg]
#13987211 - 02/18/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think people find a way to provide for a baby.
Instincts kick in.
What if you or someone you love might not have been around due to abortion?
I think once they have a pulse however small and that little body forms any little shape it is a life.
If it was your life I'm sure you would do your best to protect it.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#13987240 - 02/18/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kid_Orgo said: To be perfectly clear, I don't think abortion is "good," but that kind of sin is between you and God, and there's worse things to do in that situation.
Like have an unwanted baby.
lol @ god. now this thread can get even sillier.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American... [Re: Raw]
#13987250 - 02/18/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its not a person weather you like it or not, its like saying a PF cake before its birthed is a oz of mushrooms. The future possibility is there but it remains that its nothing more then a colonized cake with potential to become mushrooms.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American... [Re: Raw]
#13987274 - 02/18/11 09:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Raw said: I think people find a way to provide for a baby.
The news is full of people that that's utterly false for. No support, no affection, no upbringing. They form the criminal class.
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What if you or someone you love might not have been around due to abortion?
If my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle. That's totally irrelevant. I wouldn't know to miss them.
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I think once they have a pulse however small and that little body forms any little shape it is a life.
If it can't live without support from its host, it doesn't count as a life to me. I mean, I'm not at all saying a fetus is totally worthless and is trash or something, it's just not morally equivalent to a person.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: argg] 1
#13987280 - 02/18/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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argg said: lol @ god. now this thread can get even sillier.
Let me guess, you're totally against religious bigotry, unless the person you're shitting on is a theist.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#13987311 - 02/18/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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the statistics tell the story man.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: gabbaganchi]
#13987323 - 02/18/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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gabbaganchi said: humans are a symbiotic species (like many others) living in a parasitic way
True. We add nothing "to the planet." & were we all to pass, "the planet" wdn't miss us a bit.
That said, How fuckin' hard is it to just pull out and blow on her tits? I have never understood this "condom breaking"/"Ooops!" discussion. Just pull out. Fuck.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Sprezzatura]
#13987336 - 02/18/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sprezzatura said: the statistics tell the story man.
The statistics say that while black people make slightly less than white people still on average, the black middle classes and upper classes do exist and is not inherently criminal or disadvantaged.
The myth that most blacks live in poverty is perpetuated by people of both colors, it's a compelling narrative.
I'm not going to google this all up, I'm basing this mostly on the book "Losing the Race" by John McWhorter
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American... [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#13987337 - 02/18/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kid_Orgo said: If it can't live without support from its host, it doesn't count as a life to me. I mean, I'm not at all saying a fetus is totally worthless and is trash or something, it's just not morally equivalent to a person.
I think both sides of this argument are a matter of opinion. I really haven't made up my mind, personally. I really don't know what I would do in the situation. I would have a lot of trouble aborting even a rape baby. But I might end up doing it. I really don't know. I certainly wouldn't keep it if I did end up having it.
I just don't think you can say "it's not a person" anymore than you can say "it is a person." The line is ambiguous, and a matter of opinion.
From a logical perspective, we need population control, and if our population keeps growing, resources will become scarce, and people with lives and families and hopes and dreams will start dying. Logically it seems preferable to abort babies before this. I don't know...
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argg said: lol @ god. now this thread can get even sillier.
Let me guess, you're totally against religious bigotry, unless the person you're shitting on is a theist.
+1
I'm not religious myself, but hypocrisy like this really pisses me off.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: argg]
#13987423 - 02/18/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Kid_Orgo said: To be perfectly clear, I don't think abortion is "good," but that kind of sin is between you and God, and there's worse things to do in that situation.
Like have an unwanted baby.
lol @ god. now this thread can get even sillier.
Mention god and the douche bags come out of the woodwork.
Grow up kid.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American... [Re: openmind]
#13987426 - 02/18/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Something that was never awake, can't miss being awake. From the fetuses perspective, nothing more than very simple dreams ever existed.
It's concepts in the minds of US that make it into some type of terrible suffering. We only see things from our perspective where everyone is afraid of death.
We cause intense suffering for all types of animals that are awake, but as soon as a little borderline human dies before it wakes up, people get outraged.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: openmind]
#13987455 - 02/18/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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overpopulation is destroying our planet. All of the ecological problems stem from the fact that there are too damn many people.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: nicechrisman]
#13987469 - 02/18/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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BothHands said: From a logical perspective, we need population control, and if our population keeps growing, resources will become scarce, and people with lives and families and hopes and dreams will start dying. Logically it seems preferable to abort babies before this. I don't know...
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nicechrisman said: overpopulation is destroying our planet. All of the ecological problems stem from the fact that there are too damn many people.
I see it differently, from an ecological standpoint.
In the developed world, it's mainly over-consmuption. We could support many times the amount of people we have here if we actually did it wisely.
It's the developing world that's overpopulated.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: nicechrisman] 2
#13987468 - 02/18/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the most dangerous place for an African-American is Virginia. When i went there i drove by peoples houses who STILL have a motherfucking confederate flag hanging on their porch
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#13987478 - 02/18/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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BothHands said: From a logical perspective, we need population control, and if our population keeps growing, resources will become scarce, and people with lives and families and hopes and dreams will start dying. Logically it seems preferable to abort babies before this. I don't know...
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nicechrisman said: overpopulation is destroying our planet. All of the ecological problems stem from the fact that there are too damn many people.
I see it differently, from an ecological standpoint.
In the developed world, it's mainly over-consmuption. We could support many times the amount of people we have here if we actually did it wisely.
It's the developing world that's overpopulated.
pretty sure it's a combination of both.
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Re: The most dangerous place for an African-American [Re: nicechrisman]
#13987528 - 02/18/11 10:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree that abortion should not be used as last-resort birth control, but honestly, if we want to end abortions in this country, we should fix our system so that pregnant women don't have to work and can be guaranteed that their kid will have a future. That's what they try to do in Europe. Apparently it's for pansies.
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