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EvilMushroom666
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Reishi - Round Two! (Last Picture Update)
#13985423 - 02/18/11 03:51 PM (13 years, 7 days ago) |
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2 Months ago I started some reishi projects. I started with two pasteurized sawdust bags, and later went on to make two mono tubs, 15L and 55L. Things did not go well despite me documenting almost every day of the grow with pictures and short blurbs. You can see that thread here:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13611399/fpart/1/vc/1
A little discouraged I took some time to re-collect my thoughts. I then went on and started another reishi spawn run. Feb 4th was the day I inoculated my second batch of reishi bags. Here they are today:

I spawned 1Qt of wheat berries to each bag and as you can see things are going MUCH better.
I also have 2 more bags of supplemented sawdust(sterilized) that seem promising.
I will keep updated, and here is to hoping that my second run goes a lot smoother
Edited by EvilMushroom666 (04/25/11 08:21 AM)
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Awesome!  Do you have those bags in some kind of fruiting chamber, or just like that? Good luck with your grow!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Tangich]
#13985478 - 02/18/11 04:02 PM (13 years, 7 days ago) |
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Fruiting from the bag for now.
I plan to prep my SGFC next week for my first block of shiitake! Has been browning for over two months now, started cold shocking this week and into fruiting next Monday.
I do have a martha but have never been able to dial it in right, so until I have the $$ to build my humidifier and FAE system I have to make due with what I have. Spring being just around the corner I may just look to build an outdoor fruiting area 
Time will tell.
Thanks for the support!
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That's good to know, I did the same with my reishi blocks, just untied the bag and left it half open, maybe I'll throw one of them in the SG when primordia forms. How long did it take from full colonization to those pins? I have the same strain you sent me, I'm just curious. Outdoor fruiting area is my plan too, you can never really provide perfect conditions indoors, why not just let nature do it's thing!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Tangich]
#13985536 - 02/18/11 04:16 PM (13 years, 7 days ago) |
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14 days since inoculation, not bad if you ask me.
The RH in my house right now is very low so I plan to keep the bags closed minus the one daily air exchange to keep RH inside the bag up.
My last bags never really started to pin even after 2 months, so I am already further then last time!
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Very nice! Based on this and my experience with Hericium (journal) it seems for you and me, it is sterilization FTW!
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These two bags were pasteurized in the same manor as the first 2.
I did 2 more supplemented bags that I did sterilize, not pictured in this post. They got inoculated on the 9th of Feb I believe so should be fruiting within the next week or so.
Ill post pictures, will be interesting to see the difference between pasteurized sawdust blocks, and supplemented sterilized blocks.
The supplement was BRF, I cannot seem to find a supplier of any form of bran in my area, but I am not done looking yet. I need to find a good supplier of bran, as well as a cheap source of rye or wheat for the spring so I can continue my experiments.
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Doh. I really need to start reading more thoroughly. I saw the last line about sterilization...and I'm just gonna quit now:)
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It is ok brother, happens to the best of us
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Quote:
EvilMushroom666 said: These two bags were pasteurized in the same manor as the first 2.
I did 2 more supplemented bags that I did sterilize, not pictured in this post. They got inoculated on the 9th of Feb I believe so should be fruiting within the next week or so.
Ill post pictures, will be interesting to see the difference between pasteurized sawdust blocks, and supplemented sterilized blocks.
The supplement was BRF, I cannot seem to find a supplier of any form of bran in my area, but I am not done looking yet. I need to find a good supplier of bran, as well as a cheap source of rye or wheat for the spring so I can continue my experiments.
I found my bran in 25kg sacks at a feed store. Have you tried them?
Glad to see there working out for you man.
Heres a pic of my one and only atm. It was spawned 26-11 and pinned in under two weeks like yours have. Still growing slowly but surely.

I've got two more jars that just hit 100% today. going to g2g them tuesday or wednesday I hope. Going to have to throw them in cold storage. Other wise I wont be able to get them out of that jar with of a jackhammer.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: total]
#13986461 - 02/18/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 7 days ago) |
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It certainly appears to be going much better this time around. 
Edit: holyfuginshitballs baseicks, those are tits.
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Edited by fungus_tao (02/18/11 07:51 PM)
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Baseicks, I tend to use small 1/2 pint widemouths for my reishi grain. That or liquid cultures because it is incredible how tough that mycelium can be. I'm pretty sure that we should be building houses from these types of materials. However, I would be scared to live in one. As fast as they grow, I might 'wake up' colonized.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#13994636 - 02/20/11 09:05 AM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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If you need cheap entertainment, try rotating your next antler project 90 degrees each day as they grow. You'll get really cool twists. I had one darn near tie itself in a knot. I thought about manipulating the light to make one do just that on purpose, but never got around to doing it. I'd pay good money to see two antlers tie a square knot.  RR
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Quote:
MycoAu said: Baseicks, I tend to use small 1/2 pint widemouths for my reishi grain. That or liquid cultures because it is incredible how tough that mycelium can be. I'm pretty sure that we should be building houses from these types of materials. However, I would be scared to live in one. As fast as they grow, I might 'wake up' colonized.
Canning jars are really expensive here. I have to use recycled food jars. I thought about using lc straight into bags with sawdust and rye in them. Might get around to it some day.
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If you need cheap entertainment, try rotating your next antler project 90 degrees each day as they grow. You'll get really cool twists. I had one darn near tie itself in a knot. I thought about manipulating the light to make one do just that on purpose, but never got around to doing it. I'd pay good money to see two antlers tie a square knot.  RR
I noticed that they follow light. I was keeping them next to my fc that has a light on top. My fc was empty for a well or so and I had the light off.
I noticed that they started to lean towards the light from my aquarium. since them I've kept them in my window to slow the growth. I bet they will keep growing till I cant keel the bag closed.
I've thought about turning it daily once I reassessed that. Might do it with the next batch. turn half everyday and the other half every two days for a comparison :
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#13997333 - 02/20/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 5 days ago) |
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Wow, that's an impressive reishi formation...nice work on those
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Base: Wicked looking bag you got going there, hope mine look half as good!
I got back from the weekend and there is a lot of activity with my bags. I will post some pictures a bit later when I get a chance so you can see the massive blobs that are forming.
Also managed to find some wheat bran(Food grade) at the grocery store to play with, looking forward to doing some supplemented shiitake blocks!
The idea of using light to shape the direction of growth with reishi should be fun to play with, might keep the blocks moving every day or so, see what cool shapes I can get going.
Pictures:
Edited by EvilMushroom666 (02/21/11 10:24 AM)
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Your well on your way EM.
Your going to be showing me up soon. I best get back to work.
Gonna have to see what I can do about that
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14006422 - 02/22/11 09:08 AM (13 years, 3 days ago) |
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Base: I have learned the hard way with this hobby to not count my chickens before they hatch lol.
Todays update:
The first block has some weird wart like formations which have grown since last night

The second block is EXPLODING
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Taking notes for when i try the reishi.
Good stuff mate
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Second one looks 
Tell me about chickens man.
I couldn't get a cube to grow for 3 months no matter how hard I tried.
I learned a lot in those three months I'll tell you that.
Learning is half the fun even though its frustrating sometimes.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14010014 - 02/22/11 09:07 PM (13 years, 3 days ago) |
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Sitting here now with two fruiting reishi blocks, and a shiitake block makes me ALMOST forget the terrible failures that have happened in the past.
Is 100% motivation to keep going!
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Update:
Here are a few pictures from Feb 26th that I wanted to share:


Also my supplemented reishi blocks began to pin over the weekend as well!
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Looking good evil.I know what you mean about this hobby testing you at times.
I can't wait to start these that wedge you sent me has filled the plate already which is amazing.
I must get some more agar and do a master culture then i could give some wedges away and carry on your generosity.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: yummytrips]
#14042150 - 02/28/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Glad to hear they are growing out ok!
Spread the love brother!
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UPDATE March 3rd 2011:
Here are a few pictures of the pasteurized blocks taking off:
 
This is one of the supplemented and sterilized sawdust substrates starting to fruit:
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Those look awesome man, cant wait till they get some color!
I just g2g'ed ten pint jars yesterday.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14059450 - 03/03/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm really interested in seeing what kind of differences you get between the pasteurized vs the sterilized blocks. Higher yields is nice and all, but sterilizing is just sooooo energy intensive that i'd rather use other routes if possible.
Your blocks are looking wicked good as far as i can tell.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14059659 - 03/03/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update:
March 7th 2011
Here are pictures of the pasteurized blocks. They are starting to yellow at this time:
Both sterilized supplemented blocks are fruiting now:
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Looking good to me, but i've only seen them grown from pictures so far. This is fun to watch along.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Alkaloids]
#14081987 - 03/07/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14118684 - 03/14/11 10:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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A week later here is how the pasteurized blocks are doing:
I stripped this block down and moved it into my FC for shits and giggles

The second block I left in the bag

My camera died as I was taking pictures so perhaps later I will post a few pics of the supplemented blocks.
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I like it! Can't wait for my blocks to colonize !
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Hacendado]
#14119369 - 03/14/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looking good as always EM
My reishi sapwn jars are coming along nicely.
I have got loads of cardboard and was thinking of using that as my sub. What do you think?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: yummytrips]
#14119382 - 03/14/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Go for it! I have seen successful reishi grows on nothing but cardboard, check the search engine, and grow logs. I myself have been saving all my waste cardboard for the spring, plan to spawn oysters and reishi to it for outdoor grows.
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wicked looking EM666. Looks like a crown for a woodland fairy king.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Alkaloids]
#14121614 - 03/14/11 08:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the kind words everyone. I love watching these fruits grow and branch out, they form in some interesting patterns and shapes.
Here are some pictures of the supplemented blocks as promised:
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That looks great! EM, I learned a lot reading your earlier reishi thread. I currently have a few rye jars colonized, and recently got my hands on a wood chipper. Soon enough, I might be doing the reishi bag thing myself. Can't wait! 
Thanks for sharing your journeys!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Ralafe]
#14121816 - 03/14/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im glad that so many people got something useful out of my last failure with reishi. At least something good came out of it!
Things are looking much better this time around.
Good luck with your future grows my friend!
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Looking pretty good!!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: fungus_tao]
#14141334 - 03/18/11 02:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That looks crazy man.
Is that SW strain?
PS I posted those wedges I owe you yesterday.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14142044 - 03/18/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yup, currently the only reishi strain I have is SW.
You mind ing me and letting me know what you sent so I can get some plates and slants ready?
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Those look cool man. Can't wait to see the results
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Jay Sav]
#14143762 - 03/18/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good job bro! 
They super healthy,
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Quote:
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Lots of antler popping up!!!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: pepper]
#14158850 - 03/21/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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UPDATE:
Here are some pictures of the pasteurized blocks:

Here are some pictures of the supplemented blocks:
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Absolutely beautiful!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Tangich]
#14170816 - 03/23/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awesome!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: lazy bones]
#14170844 - 03/23/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks guys!

It seems more and more my projects are coming together as I master the learning curve in this hobby that I love so much.
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do you mist and fan? if so how regularly
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: ar1es]
#14173897 - 03/24/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They look beautiful!
I just got a Reishi culture syringe and am so excited to start working with it.
I'm enjoying all the updates and great photos in this thread.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: ar1es]
#14174566 - 03/24/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have been misting and fanning 1-2 times a day. I want to grow antlers to avoid the spore load reishi is know for so I am trying not to fan and mist all that much. I have heard RR say shiitake is a very C02 tolerant mushroom so I do not think it should be an issue.
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Whats in the pasterised bags man? I just made some up with just sawdust and gypsum.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14178589 - 03/24/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The two pasteurized bags are made up with straight fuel pellets.
The two that are supplemented are a sawdust BRF mix.
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EM, anyway I could get some advice from ya? first time working with the fuel pellets and i just hydrated them and want to make sure i got few things right before I screw up lol
never done shiitake, and usually use paper/straw for my oysters.
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I just thought these pics needed to be bumped again
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: biologys]
#14180923 - 03/25/11 08:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Flame Clown: Glad I could inspire you to want to give reishi a try! I have 4 blocks kicking around these days for the same reasons as you have stated, I am very interested in the health benefits of this beautiful mushroom.
Bio: I assume you want to know how I prepare my blocks. I was taught this method by Meph, who was taught it by Lipa. Meph called it Lipas pasteurization tek.
What I do is take roughly 8 cups of hardwood fuel pellets and place them in a filter patch bag. I then boil 9 cups of water. Once boiled I carefully pour the boiling water into the filter patch bag.
I wait a few minutes for the pellets to hydrate, then I close the top of the bag with a piece of heavy twine and shake the pellets around to break them apart, and mix the moisture content around so it is even.
I then wrap the bags in towels and leave them overnight to cool before inoculating.
Every time you play with fuel pellets I have learned the composition can be very different. You may have to tweak the method a little if your mix comes out to wet or to dry.
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i was just going to ask if there was a certain ratio of water, to add to fuel pellets...but thanks 
but i just poured enough hot water til it stopped soaking it up, then broke it all up, and let it strain for awhile til it was at the propery consistancy that i wanted...then added my bran at 4:1 sawdust/bran...we'll see how it goes :-P
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: biologys]
#14186008 - 03/26/11 09:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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UPDATE:
Here are the pasteurized blocks moving along nicely:
Here are the supplemented blocks:

I am going out today to look for a bigger fruiting chamber so I can move some things around and have room to fruit my shiitake blocks. I will update with more pictures on Monday-Tuesday.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: flameclown]
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I have built a green house with a cool mist before and it did not work for me in the slightest. It provided proper humidity, but the FAE part was a bit lacking even with slits in the plastic and leaving the door open a bit. Do note I was trying to grow oysters in it, It might have worked for other species. Either way the coolmist died after a few months and I was back to the drawing board.
I plan to build a humidity and FAE system this spring for my indoor greenhouse using a small blower fan and a pond fogger. I feel no need to mess with a greenhouse again until I have the time and materials to build it properly.
For the time being 115L totes are on sale, so I figure I will move the other pasteurized reishi block into the current SGFC, and then the 115L SGFC will be for my shiitake projects.
EDIT: So far I have 4 blocks of reishi, 2 are just pasteurized fuel pellets nothing else, the supplemented blocks are fuel pellets and BRF as the supplement.
As far as shiitake goes I have done 1 pasteurized block, and have another 2-3 colonizing as we speak. The yields are smaller then if you supplemented with wheat bran and gypsum.
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Those reshi are looking great! Glad to see you beat them this time around Evil!
Good luck on the new martha design. I am currently working out the bugs in my smaller one. It seems the buoys they provide you with don't always keep the ultrasonic down far enough to operate properly all the time..
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Reishi looks great EM! The pasteurized blocks look better than the supplemented. It'll be interesting to see how they weigh in.
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Here are the pasteurized blocks moving along nicely:
Here are the supplemented blocks:
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EvilMushroom666 said Here are the pasteurized blocks moving along nicely:
That will save a lot of time, i pc for reishi. I wonder if this will for for oyster???.... Thanks Brother for posting the goods!!!
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agreed, your pics of reishi makes me 
I've had a culture of this forever, never even wanted to mess wth it...now seeing yours makes me mad at myself!
and pepper, you talking about just sterilizing a supplimented sawdust block and noccin up with oysters?
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I've had a culture of this forever, never even wanted to mess with it...now seeing yours makes me mad at myself!
and pepper, you talking about just sterilizing a supplimented sawdust block and noccin up with oysters?
Yes but have no Oysters yet but have Reishi with the sterilizing of pure Douglas Fir sawdust pellet blocks. I do have 1 block that has been sterilized but am waiting for it to fruit as it is a oyster pellet block
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i've never used sawdust, until this grow im currently doing...sterilized sawdust/bran and nocc'd up 12 pf style cakes of sawdust/bran with shiitake, and a block of sawdust/bran as well
also have 2 blocks, and few cakes that i'll be noccin up with pearl oysters to try it out..figured my LC from outgrow would of been here today oh well wil wait till monday lol
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: fungus_tao]
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fungus_tao said: Reishi looks great EM! The pasteurized blocks look better than the supplemented. It'll be interesting to see how they weigh in.

Also note that they were made a while apart. I cannot remember how many days off the top of my head, but I will get back to you.
Once I am done harvesting all 4 blocks I am thinking of trying a reishi mono again, maybe a few blocks for outside so I can get some conks.
Either way reishi is a slow but beautiful fruiter and I cannot wait to try my first cup of reishi tea, and my first medicinal extraction.
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Well that explains the day/night difference. I have suspected for a long time that reishi doesn't really gain much from supplementation...or to put it another way that it gets all the supplementation it needs from grain spawn. It's nice to see a side by side comparison. I noticed that if I have my reishi with peppermint tea it completely disguises the bitter taste of reishi. Other red tea's work well. Enjoy the fruits of your labor. You deserve them!!
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Did you use any gypsum in the sat blocks, or just SD?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: fungus_tao]
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fungus_tao said: Well that explains the day/night difference. I have suspected for a long time that reishi doesn't really gain much from supplementation...or to put it another way that it gets all the supplementation it needs from grain spawn. It's nice to see a side by side comparison. I noticed that if I have my reishi with peppermint tea it completely disguises the bitter taste of reishi. Other red tea's work well. Enjoy the fruits of your labor. You deserve them!! 
I went back and those blocks are only 5 days apart. I will be moving the second pasteurized block into my clear SGFC later today, and all shiitake projects are going into my new 115L SGFC. Will update with pictures later.
Base: No gypsum whatsoever. I have just recently started using gypsum with my grain spawn and shiitake blocks. I purchased roughly a lb for $3 CDN, so when that runs out I will be waiting for spring to get a big bag from a nursery.
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Just got finished drilling holes and filling my SGFC with perlite:

I used 1/2 pint jars underneath to raise the chamber up. I choose to place my reishi blocks into the new 115L SGFC, and I have placed the three shiitake blocks in my smaller clear chamber. I birthed two shiitake cakes today and we shall see how that goes. But this thread is about reishi so lets get to the pictures!

The two supplemented blocks will be joining the SGFC very shortly.
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Just thought id post this here... You sent me a wedge that went thru rollers... I squeezed it out on 2 trays and they have sit ontop the flowhood for months now... Look pretty contam free, but color has dramatically changed...
  I plan on replating it and slanting it tonight as i started it on these old spare plates...
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Good luck cutting those!  They'll be about as tough as leather now. And if I'm not imagining things, those plates are pinning! Btw, both blocks look amazing, EM!!
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Tangich said: Good luck cutting those!  They'll be about as tough as leather now. And if I'm not imagining things, those plates are pinning! Btw, both blocks look amazing, EM!!
I was planning on using a new blade... And those plates were the last ones poured so they got a bit of agar chunks, they might have a few small pins thou
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Thanks for the kind words Tangich, things are moving along nicely.
I moved all 4 blocks into the SGFC and I will add some pictures up later tonight.
Total: If you want me to send another wedge next time I go back to stock culture let me know. Your lucky it was just the agar plates and not the grain jar, reishi gives you a small window to spawn, after that good luck getting the grain out of the jars!
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I don't know, those cream-colored blobs look like primordia pressing against the petri surface. That's just how it seems from the picture, could be agar pieces. Yeah, the only species I've seen that forms thicker mycelium than reishi is Hypsizygus ulmarius. It took me half an hour to cut it out of a jar with a sharp knife. Like cutting rock. EM, I remember you saying that you'd like to try a different strain of reishi. I just got one from lipa, it's on agar now, I can send you a wedge when it grows out if you want.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Tangich]
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Sounds good to me brother, I would appreciate that greatly!
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Tea and extracts if I end up harvesting enough.
Here are the pictures I promised of the new 115L Reishi SGFC. The two blocks in the back are the pasteurized blocks, the two in the front are the supplemented blocks.
To allow for light to reach the reishi I cut a small window and taped some plastic sheeting over it as show below:

I have enjoyed watching them grow and the amount of work involved to grow reishi from pasteurized fuel pellets was very minimal. Next time around I plan to make 5-10 blocks just because I can.
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UPDATE:
Here are some more picture for all those who are following:
Pasteurized Blocks:
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: fungus_tao]
#14221279 - 04/01/11 02:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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UPDATE:
One more before the weekend.

The 3 blocks that were just put into the SGFC are starting to color up slowly same as the first block.
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how old is the one on the right, the more mature specimen?
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Almost two months since inoculation, made on Feb 4th, started fruiting on Feb 18th and here we are now April 1st. Both pasteurized bags were made on the same day.
The supplemented bags were inoculated on Feb 9th, started fruiting around March 1st.
It seems that the environmental conditions of a SGFC speeds up the progress of coloring and growth as both pasteurized blocks were made the same at the same time fruited around the same time etc. Only variable between that block and the other is I placed it in the SGFC on March 14th.
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Good info evil, I'd give ya five but I am pretty sure I already have, regardless heres another!
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I take pictures and document all my edible and medicinal grows for research purposes. Helps out when I need to go back and figure out dates, when I have done things etc. Sometimes its hard to remember things 
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No Problem bro
You grows are always appreciated in my world,
Sorry to be off topic here but, why the F!@*K don't more Americans know about the Trailer Park Boys? Its the best show I have ever seen, .......
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TPB is beyond epic. I got the chance to see them live doing a variety hour show and it was fucking AMAZING. Me and the boys got pissed right up before we went, smoking SPJ's....Thats the way she fucking goes
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"that's the way she goes boys" . "Fuckin' way she goes"....
Have you been drinking Ray? "I've had a few"
The bible salesman asks Ray if Bubbles is ok in the head:
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I just watched an episode on youtube and it was hysterical.
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I just watched an episode on youtube and it was hysterical.
Yea, that show is straight addictive,
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UPDATE:

Pasteurized Blocks:

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hellz yea!!!!! I have 8 blocks that just went in a couple days ago!!!!!
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beautiful...how long it take to get from pins to harvest? also how do you tell when they are ready for harvesting.one type i've never atttempted..
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Almost two months since inoculation, made on Feb 4th, started fruiting on Feb 18th and here we are now April 1st. Both pasteurized bags were made on the same day.
The supplemented bags were inoculated on Feb 9th, started fruiting around March 1st.
It seems that the environmental conditions of a SGFC speeds up the progress of coloring and growth as both pasteurized blocks were made the same at the same time fruited around the same time etc. Only variable between that block and the other is I placed it in the SGFC on March 14th.
As far as I know you should harvest when the leading edge of white in the fruit body starts to turn red. That is what they say for the conks, not sure how it works for the antlers. Either way I am enjoying watching them grow so might let them go for a while longer.
I plan to start some more reishi projects at a later time hopefully with a few different strains, I am in love with this fungi
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UPDATE:
April 11th 2011

Pasteurized Blocks

Supplemented Blocks
Today I choose to harvest one of the pasteurized blocks. Here are some pictures of the process
Before Harvest

It took a good amount of prying and wiggling to get this bastard separated from the sawdust substrate

274 Grams of fresh Reishi antlers

After shredding it all up here is what we have. I saved one antler to dry whole for a souvenir.
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Wicked pics Evil! Congrats on the success
Do you plan on continuing with medicinals? Or was this a novelty to say that you had done it?
Never mind ..lol..I read up thread. I got tunnel vision on the antlers.
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That's a great harvest!
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Beautiful reishi. I have been thoroughly enjoying this log and all the photos. Definitely inspiring. Looking forward to seeing the other blocks through to harvest too.
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Thanks guys!
Things are drying as we speak and tomorrow morning I plan to ingest my first cup of Reishi tea!
Of course I will keep updated with the other blocks, and I have some plans in the future to try a different strain under the same conditions.
Thanks everyone for following along!
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These look fantastic! I love reishi! Mine is in my FC at the moment but nothing happens. If nothing happens, I'll take them outside. It's foolproof. Thank you for sharing this with us!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Hacendado]
#14281121 - 04/12/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Update:
I figure the harvest from block #1 should be dry by tomorrow, I plan to make a water based extract and freeze individual dose's in an ice cube tray along with making some tea.
I will also update with a dry weight and perhaps pictures.
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UPDATE:
The first block harvest dried out to 3 ounces as you can see below

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Thank you kind sir,
I have yet to try any now that they are dry, I figure this weekend I will brew up some tea for myself and the lady to give it a try. I plan to start at a low dosage just in case either of us have adverse reactions, it is my understanding that this is a good idea for trying any new mushroom.
Thanks for the inspiration Meph, you set me on the right track brother and I greatly appreciate it
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This is an awesome thread Evil. I just received a bag of Reishi grain spawn in the mail today and am very excited to get this amazing mushroom growing. Thanks for documenting the progress of your blocks. Clearly your persistence has paid off!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Mycomush]
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UPDATE:
Last night I tried my first cup of reishi tea by myself and lets just say I have had an adverse reaction.
I steeped around 2.5 grams of reishi in boiling water for 5-10 minutes before adding a tea bag and ingesting.
15-20 minutes later I started to feel a slight tingle in my arms and under my skin all over my body and an uneasiness started to form in my stomach. I started to feel really uneasy and my stomach started to do flips. I ended up puking 5 separate times and spent most of the night feeling terrible and not myself. I ended up falling asleep and woke up this morning feeling fine.
I went about my day and was fine until I ate some lunch. About 20 minutes after eating lunch I started to feel sick again and the feelings of uneasiness and flushing started again. I ended up puking up my lunch and over the last few hours have dealt with feeling off.
I am just now starting to feel better and the sensations of unease and tingling have started to go away, although I do not plan to eat anything else today in hopes that whatever is still in my system is flushed away.
Needless to say this was all not a pleasant experience and I do not plan to ingest reishi again.
Side note: I have in the past been hyper sensitive to many medications both natural and otherwise and have severe allergic reactions to fungal based anti-biotics. I am not surprised at my reactions to reishi and I am glad that I choose a smaller dose for my first tea.
This just goes to show once again that we are all different and you should always approach ingesting a new mushroom with caution.
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Damn, EM, that's terrible!  Hope you feel completely better soon! It's a shame you'll have to miss out on all the goodies from reishi. Being a stubborn idiot that I am, I'd probably try it again just to make sure it wasn't a cleansing reaction or something. But better not to play with fire. I just harvested my first block and will be making my first cup of tea tomorrow, this is unfortunately a good warning and I'll sure be careful. But this doesn't sound like a regular allergic reaction, did you notice anything besides stomach problems afterwards?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Tangich]
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Damn, hope you get well soon.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Toni L]
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It went away for a few hours, I then had a puff of some herbals and its right back, uneasyness, stomach rolling...puking...iv puked more since last night then I have in years...I cannot wait for this shit to get out of my system.
I cannot seem to keep any liquids down and the thought of eating makes me feel sick....
The girlfriend is going out now to get me some gravol try to settle my stomache and stop the vomiting.
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Sorry to hear it didn't jive with you bro.
Still though, they did look pretty badass! Great grow man. Very fun thread to follow.
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If you can keep stuff down you could try pedialyte. just a few TBS at a time... slowly. if not chewing ice can help hydrate you. BRAT diet for gastro recovery = bread, rice, applesauce, tea. Avoid sugar and peptobismo. Pepto has asprin in it so its a no no. Yogurt and miso for probiotics.
If you get too dehydrated, can you grab a book and go to a doctor? They might give you an IV of 2 liters of water and some potassium or other elecrolytes? Hope you feel better!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: aris]
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I hope you feel better soon Evil. That's not cool at all.
I guess it's a good lesson to take it very easy when trying new medicinal substances.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: aris]
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Thanks for the advice aris,
It has been about 36 hours since I had the tea and I still feel off.
Last night I took a gravol around 8 and was passed out asleep by 10 with no stomach rolling. When I woke up this morning I still felt a little off but just slightly. Today the diarrhea has started and I am trying to keep hydrated with ice chips and sips of water. The thought of eating still makes me feel sick, so I plan to just intake fluids until I feel I can eat.
Im not sure that this was an allergic reaction, or what is going on for that matter. Could be I am not used to the feeling of my body being cleansed. Either way I do not think reishi is for me.
I do not blame the mushroom(A hard thing to do) and I have learned a valuable lesson first hand. ALWAYS approach new mushrooms with caution and take a small dose to start with. I COULD NOT IMAGINE what this experience would have been like if I took the whole 5 gram dosage.
In the past I have been hyper sensitive to a lot of things, and it appears that mushrooms will be no different. I am disappointed that It has effected me this way.
Thanks for the kind words and wishes for me to get well, I appreciate it guys.
EDIT: I had to add that before drinking the tea over 36 hours ago I had about 5-6 bong loads of potent cannabis(normal Saturday night). It is also weird that last night the symptoms were aggravated and brought back by smoking cannabis. I plan to stop smoking over the next few days just to avoid a repeat of last night. Very odd interaction tho.
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Sorry you had problems with the reishi, hope you feel better soon. I can imagine that you feel let down after the anticipation during the grow. If you enjoy growing it you maybe could trade it. I have the culture sitting in the fridge and have yet to grow it out and try it myself.
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EvilMushroom666 said: Could be I am not used to the feeling of my body being cleansed. Either way I do not think reishi is for me.
I found it interesting that you would consider that the effects were even remotely beneficial. I quit smoking last year (hand rolled Bugler tobacco) and thought I was going to die - serious respiratory infection. I'm not fully aware of the advantages of taking reishi, and if they outweigh the risks. When I read what you posted my first thought was to suggest that you start taking even lower amounts and work up to the recommended dosage, but then I realized that it is possible that your body may never adjust and that it doesn't need to. Like you said, it may not be for you.
I'm curious if there is documentation where someone forced it upon themselves with continued negative effects and what they were.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: conformist]
#14312772 - 04/18/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear about your reaction EM Really hope you feel better soon.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: fungus_tao]
#14313282 - 04/18/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FINALLY feeling better. Was able to get some food down(Bread & liptons soup) and think I am done riding this roller coaster.
I will be back around with updates sometime tomorrow.
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EvilMushroom666 said: FINALLY feeling better. Was able to get some food down(Bread & liptons soup) and think I am done riding this roller coaster.
I will be back around with updates sometime tomorrow.
That's good to hear. Your experience makes me cautious about my current and first Reishi grow that is happening at the moment. I've experienced so called cleansing effects in the past from things like fasting but never anything like what you've been through.
Is anyone aware of this happening to anyone else who tried Reishi?
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EvilMushroom666 said: I steeped around 2.5 grams of reishi in boiling water for 5-10 minutes before adding a tea bag and ingesting.
You should boil reishi for at least two hours. I'm not sure if that's what caused the reaction or not, but the medicine was definitely not extracted in ten minutes, although I suspect the bitterness was. RR
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You should boil reishi for at least two hours. I'm not sure if that's what caused the reaction or not, but the medicine was definitely not extracted in ten minutes, although I suspect the bitterness was. RR
Good point RR. I wonder if it's possible that the problems came from something that was on the reishi rather than from what is in the reishi?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Mycomush]
#14314691 - 04/18/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anyone know how long it takes boiling to prevent food poisoning? it sounds a little bit like that, but then allergies as well as smoking was mentioned so there may be to many factors involved here to come to a reasonable conclusion
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EvilMushroom666 said: UPDATE:
Last night I tried my first cup of reishi tea by myself and lets just say I have had an adverse reaction.
I steeped around 2.5 grams of reishi in boiling water for 5-10 minutes before adding a tea bag and ingesting.
15-20 minutes later I started to feel a slight tingle in my arms and under my skin all over my body and an uneasiness started to form in my stomach. I started to feel really uneasy and my stomach started to do flips. I ended up puking 5 separate times and spent most of the night feeling terrible and not myself. I ended up falling asleep and woke up this morning feeling fine.
I went about my day and was fine until I ate some lunch. About 20 minutes after eating lunch I started to feel sick again and the feelings of uneasiness and flushing started again. I ended up puking up my lunch and over the last few hours have dealt with feeling off.
I am just now starting to feel better and the sensations of unease and tingling have started to go away, although I do not plan to eat anything else today in hopes that whatever is still in my system is flushed away.
Needless to say this was all not a pleasant experience and I do not plan to ingest reishi again.
Side note: I have in the past been hyper sensitive to many medications both natural and otherwise and have severe allergic reactions to fungal based anti-biotics. I am not surprised at my reactions to reishi and I am glad that I choose a smaller dose for my first tea.
This just goes to show once again that we are all different and you should always approach ingesting a new mushroom with caution.
Hey EM,
I have been remiss not to find this sooner.
I am so very sorry to read this bro.
I will (hopefully) do this experiment myself and will report. (my first Retch-i is fruiting in the tub...or so I hope)
I am happy to see that you are on the mend!
Take care,
JD
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Damn Evil, wtf I think someone put something in you weed. Don't give up on Reishi(unless that is all you had). I make Reishi in large batches because it takes all day. I don't know the measurements anymore because I do the same thing every time. I fill my grinder twice with reishi and put 10 quarts of water in a large pot and boil it down about half way then add 1quart vodka or any strong liquor(moonshine ) then boil some more. The end result is 4 quarts of nasty tasting reishi. I add 1 shot glass full to my morning coffee and it is fine.
Point is make it properly and test a small amount before you toss all your reishi.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: CH HELL]
#14315318 - 04/19/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would you say that you boil it for over 2 hours, then? I would guess boiling out 5 quarts of the water would take longer than two hours, but I'm not sure.
Anyway, I'm gonna read up on making reishi tea now.
There's this Asian supermarket that I go to, and they sell a tea with reishi in it. Didn't know it needed to be boiled for so long. No wonder it had no effect on me.
Well, the flavor did cause me to make this face: 
Then I was like. 
But I wanted to be like. 
Now I know - gotta boil the piss out of it.
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I read up a bit before I made the tea and I knew that it would take longer then 10 minutes to get the medicine out. This was just a small test run to see what it tasted like and I figured that perhaps some of the medicine would get extracted out.
It did taste bitter (was slightly masked my the tea) and made my mouth feel dry after ingesting it. I honestly do not know what the hell happened.
CH: The cannabis was the same as always, and the girlfriend has been smoking it all weekend with no ill effects.
I have a pre existing hyper sensitivity to most medications. Usually when taking a medicine for the first time my doctor gives me 1/10th to 1/16th of the recommended dose to start as we have both learned over the years that sometimes minuscule amounts is what I need for the beneficial effects, anymore then that and I get all the side effects.
I can honestly say I will not be giving reishi another try anytime soon. I do not want to risk going through all this again as it was a very uncomfortable 48 hours. I plan to give the rest of my reishi away perhaps to friends, perhaps to fellow Shroomerites. I will more then likely continue to grow it, but there are plenty of other medicinal mushrooms out there for me to try, hopefully with better effects.
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Love the look of those so cute and coral reef looking... sorry to hear about the sickness. Take care
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Thrive]
#14316334 - 04/19/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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wow dude, cool thread. glad your feeling better.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: broken]
#14316354 - 04/19/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That is still a beautiful grow EM!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Javadog]
#14329357 - 04/21/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow just got up to date with this. So sorry you cant reap the benefits of your hard work.
Glad your ok though, that was terrible what happened to you.
How did you dry the reishi?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
#14332100 - 04/22/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well its good to hear that you are feeling better and thing are back to normal!! I hope this is the only reaction you have to gourmet and medicinal. You have eaten Shitake and Oyster mushrooms with good results? Both those mushrooms taste good and have lost of medicinal property's.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: pepper]
#14332287 - 04/22/11 08:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Base: I dried them in front of a 1500W space heater set on low for 24 hours(Yard sale time is coming and I got my eye out for a dehydrator) and then finished them off with silica crystal cat litter.
Pepper: I have eaten a few lbs of Shiitake, and small amounts of pink oysters thus far with nothing bad happening. Reishi just took me by surprise.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Morelman]
#14333795 - 04/22/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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What exactly is the face palm for?
I assume its about the space heater and silica crystal for desiccant. I placed the fruits on a platform above the PURE silica crystals in a container and they dried out fine. I have used the same method for drying shiitake and oysters until I get a dehydrator with no ill effects.
Thanks for adding nothing to the thread brother.
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EvilMushroom666 said: Thanks for adding nothing to the thread brother.
I could not resist
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Toni L]
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I could not resist 
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! *DELETED* [Re: Morelman]
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: flameclown]
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Sounds like other then the sickness you are having a great time!
Stuff happens, could have been many different things but I am not ruling out food poisoning. Not to be crude but on a side note 3 days after I had ingested the reishi I started pissing blood for about 24 hours. This freaked me out a bit but after some research medications that thin the blood are known for causing small amounts of blood in the urine, goes to show that even with a 10 minute steep I still got SOME of the medicinal compounds out of the reishi.
When will you be back home my friend?
Be safe and take care!
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Morelman]
#14343058 - 04/24/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Morelman said: I concur that it sounds like the symptoms of food poisoning. Like RR said, you didn't boil it long enough to extract the medicinals and bacterial toxins are heat stable. You drying method lends credibility to that hypothesis. Reishi is denser than shiitake and oysters so it takes longer to dry, meaning a longer time for bacteria to proliferate.
I tried to dry a Ganoderma tsugae conk the same way years ago before I bought a dehydrator. It smelled "ripe" after 24 hours.
Other than that I have no advice to give. It seems you've made up your mind, so I see no point in going further. What you do is your business.
Good luck whatever you do.
Your last two posts were a lot more helpful and constructive then the first I must say that. It sounds like you know a thing or two about food poisoning, and while I do not agree with how you went about posting I do take your advice into consideration.
Fact of the matter is I made a poor choice and clearly might have given myself a case of food poisoning. Instead of doing what 80% of the people do on this forums after making a stupid mistake(Deleting the posts and information out of embarrassment) I choose to leave it up and answer any questions that were asked in the pursuit of spreading knowledge.
This opens me up to a lot of criticism at times as I share my stupid mistakes, failed grows and ideas with anyone who takes the time of day to read them. It was not my first stupid decision and it surly will not be my last.
All things considered chances are I experienced a case of food poisoning, due to improper preparation and possibly drying. The shredded reishi was cracker dry after 24 hours of drying with a space heater and another 30-36 hours in a desiccant chamber. It also had no distinct smell to it, sour, foul or otherwise. This obviously does not rule out food poisoning at all, but I would not have eaten rotten or sickly smelling fruits.
I was offended by your first face palm post and found it added nothing at all of value to my thread. It might have been a different story if you shared your opinions and advice at that time.
Either way there is no hard feelings on this end.
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Last Update:
Last picture update folks, hope you all enjoyed following along. I plan to let these grow out for another week at which point I will be harvesting and drying the full antlers in the sun for ornamental purposes.

Now as for the difference between substrates:
-Pasteurized Fuel Pellets Growth was faster then the sup. blocks, also noticed smaller thinner antlers with minimal branching.
-Supplemented Fuel Pellets -Slower growth, thicker antlers and many of the antlers branched out into two antlers past the original offshoot.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Base Icks]
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Long time no see brother, hope things are treating you well.
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Nice wrap up EM.
Beautiful work. Thanks again for sharing.
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: Javadog]
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Man I hope my three blocks of Reishi turn out as good as yours did. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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I think I had read that the fruitbodies will grow until there is no more white area. Am I remembering correctly?
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: faceyneck]
#14376551 - 04/30/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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As far as I know yes, once the white leading edge of growth turns red the mushroom/antler is done growing.
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2 Weeks later:
I ended up taking the lid off the SGFC and totally neglecting the blocks over the last two weeks due to dealing with life issues. Yesterday I placed the three blocks outside to free up the SGFC for a few blocks of shiitake that are almost ready to fruit. Here is one more picture for your viewing pleasure:
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Re: Reishi - Round Two! [Re: flameclown]
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It sounds like my reaction was a combination of me being sensitive to certain compounds, along with improper drying(taking to long) that may have allowed bacteria to proliferate. There is no doubt in my mind I had food poisoning, but the onset of the bad reaction happened about 20 minutes after ingesting the tea, while from what I understand it can take anywhere from 8-12 hours before food poisoning kicks into play from food.
Either way there are plenty of other medicinal and edible mushrooms out there for me to try, and I now know to be careful and take small doses of properly dried mushrooms.
It sounds like my reaction was rare, but either way it is not something I want to experience again.
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Well, I will surely ease into trying them, given your experience bro.
I wanted to add: those antlers are classic. Perfect!
I am trying a tub and they are creeping along. We will see.
Good work!
JD
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