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How should I take these mushrooms?
    #13985066 - 02/18/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hi everybody,

I'm a new poster on these boards and a relative newcomer to the world of shrooms. In fact, I've only tripped once before, with my journey guided by 3.5 grams of mazatapec mushrooms soaked in grapefruit juice. That was a little over a month and a half ago, and the person who got me those magical fungi has hooked me up with quite a bit more. The experience was fun, but given that I had tripped with friends, the experience was not nearly as introspective or profound as I had originally hoped.

Today, I have approximately 7 grams of mazatapec in a bottle of 100% lemon juice, upstairs and in my refrigerator. A friend of mine delivered them about three hours ago, and they've been sitting ever since. I was wondering if it would be alright for me to let them stew for an extra few hours (the shrooms are cut up and marinating in the bottle), as I plan on beginning what will mostly be a solo trip at 7PM. Some people will drop by an hour after that, to make sure that I'm doing alright and not rolling around in a pile of my own puke.

Since the instructions given to me were unclear, I was hoping that some people on this forum would be able to provide me with some guidance. To summarize and to reiterate what I've already said, I have 7 grams of mazatapec mushrooms in a small bottle of natural lemon juice. My friend cut the mushrooms into small pieces, dumping them into the "potion", claiming that the lemon juice would extract the psilocybin and turn it into psilocin. Whether or not this will work, I'm not sure - the one thing I'm not is a chemical expert or pharmacologist. I've read enough accounts of lemon tekking to have faith in the endeavor as a whole.

Here are my questions:

- When I get ready to drink my shots, do I need to swallow the mushrooms with the juice, or will the mushrooms essentially be devoid of any active chemical compounds that could contribute to a high? My friend recommended straining the mushrooms out and drinking the juice. The reason I'm slightly unsure is because I've read conflicting accounts on this site and others.

- Is it safe to let the mushrooms sit in the lemon juice for more than five hours (from about 2PM to 7PM), or should I strain them immediately and store the liquid in another container while disposing of the mush?

- What should I expect from 7g of lemon tekked mazatapec mushrooms? I know it's different for everybody, but it'd be cool if somebody could give me a general idea.

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985115 - 02/18/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you leave the chopped up mushrooms in the lemon juice long enoung, 1+ hour, they will be completely devoid of active ingredients. So before you drink the liquid just use a coffee filter or so to strain them out. you can aways try eating them later but I don't think it will have any effect. the thing I am worrying about though is the dosage, for a second time tripping 7 grams seems waay to much, having said that you are also doing a lemon tek which will dramatically intensify the experience. If I were you I'd start with drinking half of the resulting juice, then after an hour if everything is going well you can take the other or save it for another time.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985122 - 02/18/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would not eat the mushies If you are letting them sit for that long. drink half of the solution and wait, unless you want to trip too hard to know where or who you are.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF] * 1
    #13985123 - 02/18/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not sure how useful my advice will be but when I lemon tek I always use a coffee grinder to grind up all the shrooms, toss them in a double shot glass, fill with lemon juice and toss in the fridge for 20 minutes, pour it all out into a big big glass and fill that glass with orange juice, drink EVERYTHING, and then it hits in 30 minutes.  I've only done 5g lemon tek but it hit within 25 minutes and I just put on music and it was beautiful.  If you're going for introspective just curl up somewhere warm and listen to whatever makes you happy.  I must say though for a second trip 7g lemon tek would have made me lose my shit I'm almost certain of it.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: SeeYouEntee]
    #13985153 - 02/18/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the quick answers, everybody!

My main concern would be that, for some reason or another, I wouldn't be able to trip off of mushrooms that had been soaking for too long (or the juice). I guess I was only worrying myself for no apparent reason.

It's too late to grind the mushrooms - my friend had already chopped them up and put them into the lemon juice before he even got to my house.

I think I'll take everybody's advice and not drink all of it at once. Do you think that 7 grams of lemon tekked shrooms could be enough for an OBE or "ego death"? The latter concept is what originally got me interested in magic mushrooms, not to mention the revelations visited upon me by a few Scientific American articles and the knowledge that Carl Sagan was a pothead. =P


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985248 - 02/18/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I think I'll take everybody's advice and not drink all of it at once. Do you think that 7 grams of lemon tekked shrooms could be enough for an OBE or "ego death"? The latter concept is what originally got me interested in magic mushrooms, not to mention the revelations visited upon me by a few Scientific American articles and the knowledge that Carl Sagan was a pothead. =P





Although I've never experienced either, it really depends on your setting. With that amount, it's pretty likely you'll experience one or both - but it's not really like DMT where a set dose = ego death

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: chooken]
    #13985329 - 02/18/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was told that I should expect to not be doing very much "moving around". I'm going to set up a music playlist on my computer ("Sympathy for the Devil", "Paint it Black", "Whiter Shade of Pale", "Purple Haze", etc), turn off the lights, and wait for the psilocybin to start to kick in. I haven't had anything to eat for a few hours, so I doubt I'd make a mess, even if I were to start vomiting.

I'll post back here after I come down from my trip. I lasted four hours on 3.5g, but that was with grapefruit juice (which is an alkaloid, methinks; the guy who put all that together didn't realize there was a difference between grapefruit and grapes). When people say that lemon tekking decreases the duration of the "peak", by how much is it decreased? I'll still get a few hours out of it, right?

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985367 - 02/18/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well if you want an out of body experience and ego death you need to take all 7 grams. It will be enough, but half wont do it, neither will 5 grams. If you re looking for that kind of trip take them all. Mazatapecs are a friendly strain, so it should be pretty awesome (if that's what you're looking for).

I've done over 7 grams and had an OBE and ego death, I will never forget it.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #13985674 - 02/18/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So, between the "friendly" mazatapec and the lemon tek (which I hear reduces possible negative side-effects), you think I'll be fine with 7 grams?

I'm going to drink what I've got after I walk my dogs. I'll be home in 50 minutes. Going to set up my iTunes list once I get back and post on here for a while, chronicling what I go through. I'm sure I'll drop off once shit really starts to get crazy.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985717 - 02/18/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

7 grams + Lemon Tek = :thumbup::flowstone::thumbup:


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985759 - 02/18/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There's no way to guarantee you'll be fine. Shit could really hit the fan, hopefully you have a good head on your shoulders. Remember your on a drug and that it will end - maybe even write "relax" or "go with it" on a sticky note and put it on the wall where you'll be tripping.

This is a heavy dose which not everyone would be comfortable with, not trying to burst your bubble but just making it clear to be safe. Make sure you won't come into contact with anyone who shouldn't know your on something. Turn off your phone, keep away from facebook .etc

If you run into personal problems, guilt, regret .etc Don't take it in a bad way. Work with it and take it as a lesson to be a better person.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Freakdaddy]
    #13985780 - 02/18/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just emptied all the juice into a small cup. I think I have about two shots worth of juice, as I was supposed dispose of the moist and useless mushrooms. Guess I'm waiting 20 more minutes; apparently solo tripping can be a bit rough if you're the only person in a house.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Freakdaddy]
    #13985789 - 02/18/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:mushroom2::rastamon::sunny:
good vibez dude! can we see pics before you down it?


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985803 - 02/18/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just emptied all the juice into a small cup. I think I have about two shots worth of juice, as I was supposed dispose of the moist and useless mushrooms. Guess I'm waiting 20 more minutes; apparently solo tripping can be a bit rough if you're the only person in a house.




But a lot rougher with others in the house.

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #13985809 - 02/18/11 05:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sure. I'll have to take pictures with my phone, but gimme a second and I will.

They're going to be upstairs watching TV or whatnot. I'll be downstairs listening to music in my room with the lights off. Got a nice mix of soft, classic rock and classical music set up on a playlist. Looking forward to this. =)


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985828 - 02/18/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just emptied all the juice into a small cup. I think I have about two shots worth of juice, as I was supposed dispose of the moist and useless mushrooms. Guess I'm waiting 20 more minutes; apparently solo tripping can be a bit rough if you're the only person in a house.




for me a dose that big can make me lose it mentally if theres nothing to focus on. keep lots of simple things to do around you for when you flip out thinking people are after you or whatever. some pens and paper are good for writing and drawing crazy mushroom shit, a funny movie, some chilled out music, beers cones are essential! but yeah after 7grams your bound to bounce off the walls a fair bit! good thing is it comes and goes pretty quick compared to other drugs!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: spuzzchukka]
    #13985850 - 02/18/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Haha, I was thinking of getting a pen and paper ready. =P

I'm no Carl Sagan, but I heard that you can come up with some pretty revolutionary ideas while on mushrooms or marijuana.

Can't get a picture, sorry. :thumbdown: Apparently you need to buy a special attachment for this telephone in order to transfer pictures taken to the computer. I call BS!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13985867 - 02/18/11 05:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good vibes safe journey  :sunny:  :psychsplit:


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Par]
    #13985908 - 02/18/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

good vibes man!
lemon tek always gives me intense euphoria  :gameover:


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    #13985934 - 02/18/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just drank it! Didn't taste that bad, but it looked frickin' SICK!

Wish me luck, everybody (and good luck to those of you embarking on a similar journey tonight)! I'll report back in a few hours. Days. Whenever it is that I recover...! :crazy2:


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986058 - 02/18/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is already insane! Color distortion, seeing breathing visuals, etc. I can't handle this much longer. I feel as if I'm on a spaceship. Have a nice night, everybody.

It's taking my very most just to type this right now.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986067 - 02/18/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hahahahaha supergood vibes man! enjoi the ride!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #13986078 - 02/18/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm hearing a buzzing and seeing mathematical sign waves on my walls. Everything seems like it's disappearing.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986142 - 02/18/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like fun, bro.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Content]
    #13986156 - 02/18/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Euphoria, time distortion, etc.

I felt cold all of a sudden, saw alien faces in never before noticed symmetry and lines lines on the wall and pulses of energy and things like that and sing ewaves and mathematica egerythineg


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986159 - 02/18/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Your signature is awesome, by the way.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986168 - 02/18/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh shit bro, go to the mirror and open your eyes as wide as you can and keep them there. Watch face shrink, get bigger, laughs. Lol it's fun as hell. If you open your mouth, it'll start to melt.

Make sure you're peaking.


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    #13986189 - 02/18/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

and get off the computer lulz, play with glowsticks/meditate/eat an orange slice/listen to music!! but be sure to give a full report on your return


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13986473 - 02/18/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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This is already insane! Color distortion, seeing breathing visuals, etc. I can't handle this much longer.



Ha! That's nothing you should be in the 7th level of the Abyss by now :tee:

We wont be hearing anything from him for a while..


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    #13986581 - 02/18/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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This is already insane! Color distortion, seeing breathing visuals, etc. I can't handle this much longer.



Ha! That's nothing you should be in the 7th level of the Abyss by now :tee:

We wont be hearing anything from him for a while..



Haha yes
Its unclear if he consumed the full 7 grams
If so I must say he's a brave explorer to do that for his second time
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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: drr]
    #13986711 - 02/18/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeeeehaaaaaaaaa have funnnnnnnnnnn :realpacman:


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    #13986749 - 02/18/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well he said he took all 7 grams lemon tek'd so :evil:


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    #13986801 - 02/18/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

this thread is :rofl2: I hope this guy does OK. That's a hefty dose.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13986887 - 02/18/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

He sounds like a soldier, tho.  Am {guessing} he'll "complete the mission."

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Freakdaddy]
    #13986994 - 02/18/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Link to lemon tek? I need to try this, haha.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13987065 - 02/18/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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this thread is :rofl2: I hope this guy does OK. That's a hefty dose.



I know, he said he was already tripping hard 35 minutes in!
I feel like he was underestimating the power of that dose...

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    #13987110 - 02/18/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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this thread is :rofl2: I hope this guy does OK. That's a hefty dose.



I know, he said he was already tripping hard 35 minutes in!
I feel like he was underestimating the power of that dose...

I would have told him to take half



I know, I'm always a little disappointed in all the noobs on here that give dosage advice to people like RP without really thinking about it. Fuck yeah, eat them all! Do you really think this is sound advice for someone who has only shroomed once before:crankey:

Mazapatecs are more forgiving or mellow? BS. Cubes are cubes.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13987320 - 02/18/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I didn't want to say it but I was thinking the exact same thing. Totally irresponsible to suggest he lemon tek the whole seven grams for his second trip.

Hopefully he'll just keep it cool and ride it out. That kind of dose is really unpredictable though. I think he said he had family in the house and he's confined to a bedroom. Oh man! Sounds like an intense night. I'm wishing the best for him.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: drr]
    #13987556 - 02/18/11 10:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This thread totally inspired me! im gonna lemon tek 6g in bout half and hour.... still grinding these bitches up.... all I can think of though is how in the fuck did you manage to put 7 grams into only 2 shots of lemon juice... im thinking im gonna have to put my measly 6 into like a mixed drink glass.... 6g's of shroom powder is a LOT of fucking powder!


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    #13987566 - 02/18/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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This thread totally inspired me! im gonna lemon tek 6g in bout half and hour.... still grinding these bitches up.... all I can think of though is how in the fuck did you manage to put 7 grams into only 2 shots of lemon juice... im thinking im gonna have to put my measly 6 into like a mixed drink glass.... 6g's of shroom powder is a LOT of fucking powder!



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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13987691 - 02/18/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

oh bro im plenty experienced although this is the first time for me to lemon tek... i always add a lil lemon juice in my tea though... and i will add  I have the worst fucking cramp in my hand from all the breaking up i had to do... got some pics for you guys of my concotion coming as soon as i finish smoking a cig.... I still dont think i got enough liquid in this bitch.... I also dont think im gonna strain anything out the only time i did in a cup of tea it didnt seem to be as strong....


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: TrowaBarton]
    #13987702 - 02/18/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I know many people swear by the tea method, but I've never made a batch of tea I was satisfied with.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? (now with pics) [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13987767 - 02/18/11 11:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yea i gotta say I still prefer to just eat the fuckers with a tall glass of water but to ech his own i suppose... here are the pics i promised




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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13987856 - 02/18/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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This thread totally inspired me! im gonna lemon tek 6g in bout half and hour.... still grinding these bitches up.... all I can think of though is how in the fuck did you manage to put 7 grams into only 2 shots of lemon juice... im thinking im gonna have to put my measly 6 into like a mixed drink glass.... 6g's of shroom powder is a LOT of fucking powder!



Happy trails. Hope you've done your field research before jumping in like that.




Jah.  I've "'shroomed" prolly 1000 times over the past 25 years and got my ass kicked a coupla months ago on 3g of KSSS/Lemon Tek.  I would tread lightly when considering whether to submerge 6g into lemon juice.  Make sure yer set/setting are both as good as you could hope for.  Happy trails!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: FrankAssen420]
    #13987902 - 02/18/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If you leave the chopped up mushrooms in the lemon juice long enoung, 1+ hour, they will be completely devoid of active ingredients. So before you drink the liquid just use a coffee filter or so to strain them out. you can aways try eating them later but I don't think it will have any effect. the thing I am worrying about though is the dosage, for a second time tripping 7 grams seems waay to much, having said that you are also doing a lemon tek which will dramatically intensify the experience. If I were you I'd start with drinking half of the resulting juice, then after an hour if everything is going well you can take the other or save it for another time.





Not true.  You understand osmosis, right?  Well, the chemicals will equally distribute themselves through the mushrooms and the liquid.  They only move if there's a gradient in concentrations.  If there's only a small amount of liquid (let's say equal in weight to the mushrooms), then 50% of the actives will be in the mushrooms, and 50 in the solution.  If the liquid is twice the weight of the mushrooms, you will have 33% in the mushrooms, and 66% in the liquid, and so on.

You're thinking of tea.  Say you have 10 grams of mushrooms with 10% psilocin (1 gram psilocin).  Put 10 grams of water on it, and you'll have 10 grams of mushrooms with 5% psilocin, and 10 grams of water with 5% psilocin.  That's 500mg in the water and mushrooms.  Now put another 20 grams of water on the mushrooms.  Now you have 10 grams of mushrooms with 2.5% psilocin (250mg), and 30 grams of water with 2.5% psilocin (750mg).  Eventually, the amount of psilocin in the mushrooms will be inconsequential.  But if it's in lemon juice, I assume the lemon juice will be less than or equal to the mass of the water, not more.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: BothHands]
    #13988788 - 02/19/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:mushroom2: 3grams of subs in cranberry juice tonight, im not brave lol my arms look red and funny and words are smashing together on screen 7grams is insane lol


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: spuzzchukka]
    #13988896 - 02/19/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys,

I just woke up and have to get to an appointment in one hour, so I won't be able to post as much as I'd like. For now, I'll say this - while the trip certainly was insightful and philosophically intriguing, things did not go as planned. My trip was fine for the first hour and a half. I do believe that I can safely say that I've only several times had more fun. My mood and body were totally governed by music. There were times when I felt as if I was seizing up or on the verge of flying, rushing from one room to the other, swinging open doors and rushing through curtains as one song or another played in the background.

The most amazing spectacle to behold, I think, was that of the all the geometrical patterns and mathematical symbols appearing all over the house. My upstairs bathroom was turned into a Gothic cathedral, and I watched, before my very eyes, as writing and graffiti scrawled itself over the corridor of a hallway.

Every time I went back downstairs into my room (since there were people upstairs), I felt as if I were entering a new land. We're still building our house, see, so I don't yet have doors, and the location of my room, adjacent to the washer machines and dryer, is only temporary. With the lights off and the glow of the computer screen hardly visible through two curtains and a corner turn, I was, in my altered state, given very much the impression of being in some sort of forest or tribal hut. There were moments when, in between transitions of musical tracks, I heard the beating of a drum or the howling of a wolf.

On my fourth or fifth trip back upstairs, I was affected by some bad vibes that would effectively ruined the rest of the night. One of my friends, who had apparently brought their own container of mushrooms (5 grams, divvied up between two people), was in the corner of my kitchen, crying. I mistook the smell of popcorn for vomit, and began to worry that a mess was in the making.

Immediately after that, the visuals, the sounds, and the physical sensations I felt all began to take on hostile dimensions. I wasn't yet a quarter of the way through my full trip.

The first sensation I noticed was a very strange, very disconcerting sense of liquid pouring from various parts of my body. The flow seemed mostly to stem from joints, with a pulling tug, as if somebody had attached a string to me, felt below my feet. Unfamiliar, unpleasant, and exotic smells wafted about the house.

Upon re-entering my room, it occurred to me that my earlier euphoria had entirely dissipated. The light on the walls (I had flipped the switch before going) reflected in a sickly yellow way, and the music had stopped. I began to lose all sense of direction. When I looked at my clock to catch the time, I saw only symbols and skulls and torches. My friends had left, and I was only halfway done.

Knowing that something bad was coming, I found my cell phone and called somebody. Within 3 minutes, I had lost my temper with them. They knew me to have somewhat of a goading, exaggerating, and sarcastic sense of humor, so they were not wont to take my seriously when I told them what was happening to me. When I began to ask them who "Branden" (their name) was, they didn't believe that I was not joking with them. They had never done mushrooms, and didn't understand.

I asked for the time, repeatedly. They'd tell me that we'd been on the phone for fifteen minutes, and I'd ask how long that was. I couldn't comprehend time. I couldn't comprehend outside, inside, universe or cosmos. I cut off all communications quickly, screaming that I didn't know the meaning of "college", "school", "friends", or "me".

I lost track of the clock and of my own actions after that. I'd be in one room one moment, another the next. Lights would be on in places I rarely venture. I seemed to teleport, to zap to and fro at will. I'd walk around, trying to find a way to escape from my delusions, clueless of what to do or where to go. Time had slowed to a dead standstill, with the seconds being prying by and being torn away in the slowest imaginable fashion.

There was one point when I was cognizant. I was upstairs, in my hallway, looking at the dogs. I was dimly aware of the fact that I was naked, but I couldn't feel my own body. I looked at my puppy, and before my eyes could take in the sight of my living room, I was in my bed downstairs, lights on and staring at the wall.

I suppose I made the mistake of trying to fall asleep. I had begun my trip at 7:45PM and it was now only 10:30PM. I still wasn't sure what time was or what a clock did, but I did unconsciously recognize the meaning behind the symbols. I knew that I didn't have much longer and I tried to sleep it off.

The next two hours were like a waking dream. I knew I was in bed, but every time I closed my eyes I'd be taken to a different place. Vague memories popped up, the voices of parents and relatives were heard in my own breath. I felt myself slip out of existence repeatedly. I was no more than a creature of skin and bone, I thought, unsure of the nature of his own being. What was I? Where was I? What were emotions and how did one experience them?

Briefly and forcefully, when I opened my eyes or took a glance at the wall, I'd see slim splashes of blood sprayed across ceiling. Were it not for the fact that I knew I had never left my bed, I wouldn't have known if I had killed something or done something horrible. Two hours this went on.

There was this great drama I had constructed in my mind's eye, myself playing the role of the star. I can't remember the names of any of the characters, but it dealt with an alien creature who had no other purpose in his life than to come to terms with his own non-existence and irrelevance.

I must have fallen asleep eventually, because seeing 11:20PM (or thereabouts) was the last memory I have of last night.

At any rate, I've got to go take a shower, feed my dogs, and get out of here.

I'm going to be tripping on 7-8 grams, lemon tekked, in another couple of weeks. Hopefully that trip will be better than this - I'll do it completely alone. Disturbing as this experience may have been, it was worth it. I'm not afraid, and I know I can deal with whatever comes.

Good luck to everybody else who has tried/or is trying this! I hope everything goes better for you!

Oh, I almost forgot - once or twice, I was on the verge of having an OBE. I think having other people in the house stopped me, because I was constantly distracted by thoughts of them.

---> Note: some details regarding my friends may be sketchy. I was in a real rush when I wrote this, haven't revised it at all.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13988922 - 02/19/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mazapatecs are more forgiving or mellow? BS. Cubes are cubes.



Cubes aren't cubes and i've been here a decade, and moderated several of these forums n00b.

To further prove your n00bness the OP enjoyed himself for the most part and is repeating this. I myself took about 10 grams on my 2nd or 3rd trip. Everyone isn't the same as you chris, so don't be so quick to pass off your personal reality as the gospel.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13988927 - 02/19/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

why not just eat the mushrooms as is? take a shot of pepto and let it happen? i have a back ground in organic chemistry and am not sure about the lemon juice tek- their is an extraction/reduction method one can do but it involves expensive chromatography equipment and is time consuming with notable losses of active chemicals. i guess it may work on a small scale as long as one doesn't think they are in any way extracting and concentrating and, their will still be some losses of said active chemical. thats why i say just munch`em!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #13988933 - 02/19/11 07:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mazapatecs are more forgiving or mellow? BS. Cubes are cubes.



Cubes aren't cubes and i've been here a decade, and moderated several of these forums n00b.



Damn straight! some cubes are notably stronger than others.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: jacobensis]
    #13988940 - 02/19/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

agreed.

Some strains have more mind fuck and confusion, they all have different body high's to me, and every one of my friends that trips notices the same. Currently Transkei's are everyone's favorites, then Brazilians.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13988996 - 02/19/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It's nice to read competent prose.  With real knowledge of where to place punctuation.

Good to read yer shit.  (Be careful on "upping the ante," though; take it from one who thinks he knows a lot.)


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #13989099 - 02/19/11 08:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mazapatecs are more forgiving or mellow? BS. Cubes are cubes.



Cubes aren't cubes and i've been here a decade, and moderated several of these forums n00b.

To further prove your n00bness the OP enjoyed himself for the most part and is repeating this. I myself took about 10 grams on my 2nd or 3rd trip. Everyone isn't the same as you chris, so don't be so quick to pass off your personal reality as the gospel.



I've only been eating mushrooms for about 18 yrs. I guess I am a noob. I see you've been here at least 2 years longer than me. Wow, I'm really impressed that you were a mod. I would think as a mod you would have had better sense than this. Sorry, I just think dosage advice of this nature is irresponsible. I didn't even look at your join date, I just assumed that someone who would give this type of advice to a noob was also a noob, cuz that's usually what I see here. I'm really glad to hear that things went well for RP.

You shouldn't be so quick to pass off your personal reality as gospel.

The fact of the matter is I've seen people jump up to a dose like this and develop personality disorders and all kinds of stuff. I was simply trying to be the voice of reason:shrug:


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13989117 - 02/19/11 09:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lol @ personality disorders.

I don't recommend a dose like this for nearly anyone, but he said he wanted to experience the level 5. I merely informed him of how to obtain it. He didn't seem like the scary type and he wanted to try it, so I gave him the appropriate advice.

Now if he had said he could barely handle 3 grams i'd have said avoid at all costs. I personally stick to moderate doses, but occasionally go overboard. Never have I seen anyone develop a disorder from tripping on shrooms, they must have been messed up to begin wit. Can not imagine how one freaks out and then doesn't regain composure once they're sober.

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #13989127 - 02/19/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It's cold as hell here. I had a fever all night too so I was shivering my ass off all night. At least the sun is shining.

I did see one kid eat a super hefty dose and literally was never the same again. He was already a little off beforehand, but it pushed him over the edge.

Sorry, I didn't mean any offense by my post. I just get frustrated because I see a lot of noobs on here giving dosage advice and kinda feel like that should be against the rules. I didn't even bother to look at who I was directing it at.:hug:


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #13989156 - 02/19/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It's all good, we all sound worse than we intend to in text. There is definitely a lot of bad advice going around here too, lol.

Sucks about the fever, be careful because it's gonna be really cold for a while, more F'n snow next week too :mad2:

and hahahaha, sucks about the one guy unable to recover, that's crazy stuff!!


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #13989244 - 02/19/11 09:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mazapatecs are more forgiving or mellow? BS. Cubes are cubes.



Cubes aren't cubes and i've been here a decade, and moderated several of these forums n00b.

To further prove your n00bness the OP enjoyed himself for the most part and is repeating this. I myself took about 10 grams on my 2nd or 3rd trip. Everyone isn't the same as you chris, so don't be so quick to pass off your personal reality as the gospel.




Geez - did we read the same trip report?  That was not a good trip in my opinion and I was about to suggest he rethink a repeat trip.  Clearly he should cut the dose.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Freakdaddy]
    #13989599 - 02/19/11 11:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It's nice to read competent prose.  With real knowledge of where to place punctuation.

Good to read yer shit.  (Be careful on "upping the ante," though; take it from one who thinks he knows a lot.)




Glad it turned out alright. That was a pretty hasty writing job for me.

And no, I wouldn't classify it as a "good trip". It wasn't anything I couldn't handle, but the experience could have been much more enjoyable.

EDIT:

Yeah, there were some pretty ridiculous typos in my trip report. Still, wasn't too bad for writing it in one sitting while getting ready to leave.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13989970 - 02/19/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

sounds like op had the experience you would expect from that much shrooms! haha i know the feeling telling yourself il sleep it off then being bombed with visuals and thoughts and skitzing out :eek: anyways, it makes for good reading!good luck upping the dose! :mushroom2::sunny:


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    #13990078 - 02/19/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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agreed.

Some strains have more mind fuck and confusion, they all have different body high's to me, and every one of my friends that trips notices the same. Currently Transkei's are everyone's favorites, then Brazilians.




Funny you would say that, as I just had my first 8th of Transkei's a few nights ago, and it was like NO mushroom experience before it. It was was pure magic, my entire field was engulfed in flowing, writhing, geometric, technicoloured snakes, and at one point, I just cried out of pure bliss.

Truely a newly affirming experience with mushrooms(had mostly LSD in the last few years) and a new cubens favourite indeed.

Also, nice and sunny here outside of Tacoma, but I really hope we see snow just ONCE more before next winter. I still have around an ounce of those transkeis, and I would love a midnight snow adventure trough my little neighbourhood


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #13990618 - 02/19/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Bah I've had enough of this snow, got blackout drunk and fell on the way to the store, shattered my index finger, and it still isn't fully healed :mad2:

Suppose to be rainy in the greater Seattle area not snowy!!!
Glad you also enjoyed the transkei's, they are elite. Very much a downer type buzz, I get really relaxed on em.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: spuzzchukka]
    #13990687 - 02/19/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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sounds like op had the experience you would expect from that much shrooms! haha i know the feeling telling yourself il sleep it off then being bombed with visuals and thoughts and skitzing out :eek: anyways, it makes for good reading!good luck upping the dose! :mushroom2::sunny:




Thanks. I'm probably going to take a break from shrooms after this new batch comes in, even if all goes well. May as well take them sparingly and go on a great ride once or twice per year than fall into a monthly habit.

Being a broke student doesn't help much, either.


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    #13992127 - 02/19/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good call, take a smaller dosage next time if you want to enjoy the whole ride.


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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: RJF]
    #13992371 - 02/19/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I wish I had seen this post last night so I could have told you not to take such a high dose! I'm pretty upset that other people here didn't tell you what a seriously bad idea that was.

secondly, if you plan on doing a solo trip, do it SOLO. That means no friends coming and going once you've started tripping, no people around who you might disturb, or might disturb you (ie. family in the house). NO CELLPHONE! Phones equal disaster while tripping. It's a proven fact.

third, if you're going to call someone for help, or have a trip sitter, it needs to be someone who will understand what you are going through, not your friend who's never tripped before. I know this can be difficult if you're young and none of your friends have experience with tripping, but it can be worse if your trip sitter/trusted friend thinks it's funny to fuck with you, or doesn't take your crisis seriously, or worse, calls 911 because you're freaking out too hard.

You seem like you want to explore psychedelics for the right reasons, and you certainly are brave! But please, srsly, wait a few weeks and lower your dose by like half next time. You've still got a lot to learn, and you can have plenty of introspection and wonderous experiences on lower doses without fucking your mind up or putting yourself in danger like you did last night. I've been tripping for like 8 or 9 years, have had upwards of several hundred trips, and I've NEVER taken 7g, and would approach that dose very seriously if I ever do.

Also, when I do take high doses, this is the procedure that I follow:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13306592#13306592


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    #13992425 - 02/19/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: How should I take these mushrooms? [Re: Freakdaddy]
    #13998846 - 02/20/11 11:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well I feel like i should tell everyone how my 6g went...

I feel like I am pretty fucking tolerant to shroomies so to me it was pretty much like any other time... played some video games listened to a lot of music...

The best part was that I had some good OEV going on in my room with clear like tunnel vision in the middle and everything swirling back and forth ing my periferal(sp) vision

then around 4 after having a generally great time I thought I was never gonna be able to sleep and I decided to drink about half a bottle of codeine cough syrup...

twenty minutes after that I could barely move and basically zoned out into nowhere staring at the ceiling... I kept dropping my pipe which was probably a good thing cause every time I would take a hit I would get a real intense rush....

then I drug my ass into bed and finally went to sleep no problem at about 530...

Good Time for me! wish i hadnt drank all my sizzurp though....


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