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Slavaslave
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Religious Fanatics...
#13984778 - 02/18/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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anybody ever just want to ??
we are talking Nietzsche in my Philosophy class, and this kid goes of on some tangent about why Nietzsche is wrong because god this and got that and bitch bitch bitch... it was all i could to to stop myself from jumping over a table and slapping this kid in the face...
dont they see that they have no solid logic behind their beliefs? dont they see the obvious hypocrisy of assuming that their religion is the only "real" truth??? i just want to ... but all i can do is
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13984792 - 02/18/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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religous addicts be doin thangs
but so is we at teh shroomery, so lets just out do them in thangs like logical reasoning and taking psychadelics dr0ogz and talking to machine elves and what not
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Slavaslave
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meh, talking machine elves seems more plausible than God, but thats just my opinion i guess
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13984834 - 02/18/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd love to introduce that guy to Death of God theology.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13984839 - 02/18/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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oh definitely morer plausible than any of the traditional theories of god.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13984843 - 02/18/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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religion is the biggest shit ever ive proved god heaven and hell wrong they dont fucking exist...atleast the god we think of, im not sure weather this life is real or not, everytime i trip life doesnt make sense
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13984991 - 02/18/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I like Faith.
But I dont like hypocrits.
My father is a christian yet he will not forgive my best friend for supposedly screwing me over when in actuallity it was my brothers wrong doing. I even told him that. Crazy..
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: littleton]
#13984992 - 02/18/11 02:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've been to hell and heaven through DMT and i still believe they are just products of the mind. in fact DMT has proved that for me,, when u focus on negative shit you are living in hell and when you focus on positive shit u are living in heaven. it's really that simple. and you have complete control over which place u want to exist in
as for god, why he is U of course. YOUR EXISTENCE is the only relevant thing in the universe and the sheer fact that you can say this aloud is proof that the "self" consciousness stream permeates through your physical body and has control over the physical surrounding and reality one wishes to create
although our time here has been somewhat limited we are moving ever more into the direction of unbounded imagination -creating reality,..
'a slow but steady deconstruction of physical limitation due to innovation and technology implemented through the imagination of the infinite universe
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Slavaslave
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Envix]
#13985490 - 02/18/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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the ethics of it all are great, but the system and LITERAL interpretation is bullshit...
they preach forgiveness and humbleness, but then believe they are better than those who dont believe?
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13985544 - 02/18/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Slavaslave said: anybody ever just want to ??
we are talking Nietzsche in my Philosophy class, and this kid goes of on some tangent about why Nietzsche is wrong because god this and got that and bitch bitch bitch... it was all i could to to stop myself from jumping over a table and slapping this kid in the face...
dont they see that they have no solid logic behind their beliefs? dont they see the obvious hypocrisy of assuming that their religion is the only "real" truth??? i just want to ... but all i can do is 
I'm actually going through the exact same thing, except people in the Midwest are a level dumber, our jesusfan is blathering on about the Teleological argument (argument from design) as if this universe has some clear an altruistic purpose. It's sickening, honestly.
Also her tirade about the danger of marijuana as a "stepping stone."
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: blujay] 1
#13985553 - 02/18/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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at least here we can set intolernant people to ignore.
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blujay
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Larrythescaryrex said: at least here we can set intolernant people to ignore.
What kills me is how the teachers actually praise that bullshit.
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Larrythescaryrex said: at least here we can set intolernant people to ignore.
They are not to be tolerated huh?
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: DieCommie]
#13985633 - 02/18/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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Larrythescaryrex said: at least here we can set intolernant people to ignore.
They are not to be tolerated huh?
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave] 1
#13985678 - 02/18/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Slavaslave said: it was all i could to to stop myself from jumping over a table and slapping this kid in the face...
dont they see that they have no solid logic behind their beliefs?
wow... so you're a religious fanatic yourself
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Prisoner#1]
#13985684 - 02/18/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Atheist fanatics are just as bad, if he wants to believe in some deluded reality that convinces himself of his perceived immortality let him.
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Slavaslave
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: blujay]
#13985720 - 02/18/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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blujay said: I'm actually going through the exact same thing, except people in the Midwest are a level dumber, our jesusfan is blathering on about the Teleological argument (argument from design) as if this universe has some clear an altruistic purpose. It's sickening, honestly.
Also her tirade about the danger of marijuana as a "stepping stone."
im in the midwest too, i feel the pain
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DieCommie

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I dont think anybody is saying he is not allowed to believe. Just talking about how he is foolish because he does, and more so that it is inappropriate to sidetrack a class on Nietzsche with a tangent about god.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: DieCommie]
#13985736 - 02/18/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well slavaslave had a massive opportunity to own the kid about his beliefs in front of everyone, he passed it up and instead glared silently at him while he talked, brooded about it all day and made a post ranting about it on the shroomery when he got home
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blujay
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Well slavaslave had a massive opportunity to own the kid about his beliefs in front of everyone, he passed it up and instead glared silently at him while he talked, brooded about it all day and made a post ranting about it on the shroomery when he got home
Among his peers, saying anything would disown him socially. Instant social suicide. He took the high road.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: blujay]
#13985781 - 02/18/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Amoung those peers that have serious beliefs in god, owning someone in a debate is not going to turn you into a social outcast for the rest of the school year.
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blujay
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Amoung those peers that have serious beliefs in god, owning someone in a debate is not going to turn you into a social outcast for the rest of the school year.
Saying anything other than that you are a Christian (or at a bare minimum, religious) in these parts socially damages you beyond what you would expect.
I'm not saying he should or shouldn't have "owned" (whateverthefuckthatmeans) someone over their paranoid superstitions.
Just that if you happen to be of the demographic that doesn't have them, and you happen to live in the retard belt, you best shut the fuck up or get ready to be a complete loner. People around here will literally not speak to you, stare you right in the face and pretend you aren't talking if they thing you're some kind of devil atheist who must be out to corrupt their very soul with every syllable.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: blujay]
#13985819 - 02/18/11 05:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Owned: v. owned, 0wned, pwned, 0wn3d, pwn3d, own3d. v. tr. To be made a fool of; To make a fool of; To confound or prove wrong; embarrasing
I wouldnt really give a fuck about my social standing among a bunch of random retards who think they know everything there is to know about the origins of the world, and remain in a superstitious paradigm of satan and god/ heaven and hell. I would enjoy getting them and could give less of a damn about what they thought of me afterwards
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Slavaslave
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Well slavaslave had a massive opportunity to own the kid about his beliefs in front of everyone, he passed it up and instead glared silently at him while he talked, brooded about it all day and made a post ranting about it on the shroomery when he got home
have you tried to "own" a religious fanatic?? i'd get farther driving my face into a 6 foot thick concrete wall at 30 miles per hour...
and if i were to shut down his belief openly, wouldnt i just be participating in one of the things i hate most about them? their annoying need to convert everybody to their chosen religion...
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13985897 - 02/18/11 05:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Now that you mentioned it I have, went back and forth for a hour and half using every counter argument and all the rationality I could throw at him, by the end I was wanting to rip my hair out at the roots. all he would fall back on when I got him with a argument was faith, Im gonna pray for you, and it feels good to believe man so it must be true.
You would accomplish more by banging your head off a brick wall
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Slavaslave
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my point exactly... so i fore go all the bullshit and just bitch to the shroomery
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13986094 - 02/18/11 06:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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IMO trying to debate with people on the existence of "God" is pointless, and I say that with regard for both atheists and theists. They're perpetuating a false dilemma.
Now -on the other hand- if you're a Christian you say something like "the existence of God disproves evolution" or you're an atheist and you argue that "the universe is just a chasm of blind indifference"... I would gladly argue against both points.
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i live in the bible belt too
IME there are 2 types of people here
religious fantasists, and hard core atheists
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Remix]
#13986105 - 02/18/11 06:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The universe is a blind chasm of indifference? I would beg to differ
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I too live in the retard belt but I have the courage to say I don't believe in god, it feels good so it must be true lolz
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Bodhi of Ankou said: The universe is a blind chasm of indifference? I would beg to differ
So would I.
My experience in philosophy and religion classes has been the opposite of OPs, where, rather, the majority of the class was populated by annoying atheists who would spew "Dawkins talking points" like that all the time. I even got so annoyed by it I addressed the issue in an essay for one class and my teacher would comment back on how he was equally frustrated by the classes "lack of imagination".
Actually, in my entire philosophy of religions class the only kid who actually wasn't a douchebag about everything was this kid who was really into Sufi-Islam.
But I came from a big family where half of my aunts/uncles are hardcore Catholics... so I have exposure to the other side of the coin, too. Granted, catholics aren't anywhere near as bad as Evangelicals and Protestants (most of the time)... but every once in a while they draw ridiculous conclusions from the bible that are equally dogmatic.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Remix]
#13987673 - 02/18/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nothing more than aggravating then a typical closed minded religious person
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: mikeybagz]
#13987678 - 02/18/11 11:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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And you can't tell them anything cause they're right and you're wrong.
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: Slavaslave]
#13988315 - 02/19/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Slavaslave said: anybody ever just want to ??
we are talking Nietzsche in my Philosophy class, and this kid goes of on some tangent about why Nietzsche is wrong because god this and got that and bitch bitch bitch... it was all i could to to stop myself from jumping over a table and slapping this kid in the face...
dont they see that they have no solid logic behind their beliefs? dont they see the obvious hypocrisy of assuming that their religion is the only "real" truth??? i just want to ... but all i can do is 
I'm not a religious person, but I don't understand why this classmate's beliefs bothered you so. It seems like his words brought you over the line to anger and even close to physical violence. You seem to have a real deep seated hatred and intolerance for people with beliefs that run counter to yous.
Hey wait a second...
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Re: Religious Fanatics... [Re: setb]
#13988321 - 02/19/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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We need a Dr.Phil greamlin for people like you.
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