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Learyfan
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Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use 1
#13984638 - 02/18/11 01:12 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Everyone liked this picture in the Ozzy thread in the News forum, so I thought I'd post it here. You can see so much in this picture. The first peak is in 1971. This is during the time Tim Scully and Nick Sand were producing massive quantities of acid. Then you see a big dip down at about 1976/1977. This was when Operation Julie took place and Richard Kemp and Christine Bott, et all, were busted and 6 million tabs and enough crystal for 13 million doses were seized. The British feds claim a 90% reduction in LSD production. Then you see another peak at 2000 and then a huge spike down. This was the Pickard/Apperson bust. Again, the feds (DEA) claimed resulted in a 90% reduction in LSD production.
What happened in the middle? Your guess is as good as mine. I'm afraid the facts will be lost to history. Thank you to the brave souls who clandestinely put their lives on the line to elevate human consciousness.

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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Learyfan] 1
#13984664 - 02/18/11 01:17 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Funny how we see these people as an attempt to elevate human consciousness, and the government sees them as hardcore felons.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Anthony917]
#13984748 - 02/18/11 01:32 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Lol, Internet bubble bust.... recession for acid!
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Learyfan
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Patlal]
#13985086 - 02/18/11 02:33 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Patlal said: Lol, Internet bubble bust.... recession for acid!
But the "substitute effect", as Pickard calls it, happens with a boom in mushroom and ecstasy use.

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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Anthony917] 1
#13985121 - 02/18/11 02:39 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Anthony917 said: Funny how we see these people as an attempt to elevate human consciousness, and the government sees them as hardcore felons. 
I would guess that maybe 1 out of 50 people I've met shares my own views of psychedelics (that they are for growth) and that the rest simply wants walls to move. I don't doubt there are many who use them for good but to paint with that wide of a brush isn't correct.
I do think people should be able to take a substance that makes walls move though if thats what they are looking for. Fuck the government for regulating what's inside of your body while promoting McDonalds and the like.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Rocker232]
#13985171 - 02/18/11 02:50 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Rocker232 said: I would guess that maybe 1 out of 50 people I've met shares my own views of psychedelics (that they are for growth) and that the rest simply wants walls to move.
Can they not be for both?
I really liked the graph but could find no insightful comment to make about it.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Rocker232] 1
#13985178 - 02/18/11 02:51 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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I dont think drugs would have such a bad reputation if they didnt pull examples from crackheads and people who use H heavily, etc. It's because of those drugs that people frown upon psychedelics I think, because they seem to generalize not by what drug it is, but by..."Oh its a drug, so it must be bad"
All the bullshit that the DEA feeds you. Blehh
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: masterfluffypants] 1
#13985205 - 02/18/11 02:56 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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masterfluffypants said: I dont think drugs would have such a bad reputation if they didnt pull examples from crackheads and people who use H heavily, etc. It's because of those drugs that people frown upon psychedelics I think, because they seem to generalize not by what drug it is, but by..."Oh its a drug, so it must be bad"
All the bullshit that the DEA feeds you. Blehh 
qft. i run into this kind of mentality often. i mostly keep my discussions about "drugs" to a minimum. most folks are just far to brainwashed to have any sort of balanced psychedelic drug conversation with.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Learyfan]
#13985210 - 02/18/11 02:57 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Nick Sand is back in action with the legal license to work with it. I know some people who studied under him. Coincidentally there is good acid in the midwest now.
I think we're at another spike in the graph now. In all my years of tripping Ive never seen the market so flooded.
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Learyfan
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#13985220 - 02/18/11 02:59 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said: Can they not be for both?
Yeah, he went on to say "I do think people should be able to take a substance that makes walls move though if thats what they are looking for."
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#13985230 - 02/18/11 03:01 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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i generally have a hard time finding any psychedelics. but that could be because i live in Georgia and the rednecks down here only seem to like alcohol and meth.
fuck that shit.
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masterfluffypants
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: gerryjarcia]
#13985252 - 02/18/11 03:07 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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masterfluffypants said: I dont think drugs would have such a bad reputation if they didnt pull examples from crackheads and people who use H heavily, etc. It's because of those drugs that people frown upon psychedelics I think, because they seem to generalize not by what drug it is, but by..."Oh its a drug, so it must be bad"
All the bullshit that the DEA feeds you. Blehh 
qft. i run into this kind of mentality often. i mostly keep my discussions about "drugs" to a minimum. most folks are just far to brainwashed to have any sort of balanced psychedelic drug conversation with.
Its very sad and very fucking lame. Most people are just ignorant and are so programmed that they wont hear it any other way than the way that was pounded into their brain.
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gerryjarcia said:
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masterfluffypants said: I dont think drugs would have such a bad reputation if they didnt pull examples from crackheads and people who use H heavily, etc. It's because of those drugs that people frown upon psychedelics I think, because they seem to generalize not by what drug it is, but by..."Oh its a drug, so it must be bad"
All the bullshit that the DEA feeds you. Blehh 
qft. i run into this kind of mentality often. i mostly keep my discussions about "drugs" to a minimum. most folks are just far to brainwashed to have any sort of balanced psychedelic drug conversation with.
Its very sad and very fucking lame. Most people are just ignorant and are so programmed that they wont hear it any other way than the way that was pounded into their brain.
i've got one or two friends i can talk about psychedelics with in a mature way, all other "drug" discussion for me happens right here on the Shroomery. guess it's better than nothin'
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: gerryjarcia]
#13985910 - 02/18/11 05:49 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Hahaha yeah. At least we're a family of mostly educated people on here.
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masterfluffypants said: Hahaha yeah. At least we're a family of mostly educated people on here.
You speak for yerself. I don't need no edumacatin', daggummit.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#13985952 - 02/18/11 05:57 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: MisterMuscaria]
#13985955 - 02/18/11 05:58 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:In all my years of tripping Ive never seen the market so flooded.
in all my years of tripping, ive never seen acid.
hopefully you are right and that changes.
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#13985977 - 02/18/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:In all my years of tripping Ive never seen the market so flooded.
in all my years of tripping, ive never seen acid.
hopefully you are right and that changes. 
In all my years of tripping, ive never seen a panda driving a go kart
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#13985980 - 02/18/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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MisterMuscaria said:In all my years of tripping Ive never seen the market so flooded.
in all my years of tripping, ive never seen acid.
hopefully you are right and that changes. 
Not to pry too deep, but whereabouts you from?
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Re: Estimated annual numbers of first time LSD use [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#13986039 - 02/18/11 06:15 PM (13 years, 14 days ago) |
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blacksburg va.
i only moved here in august. the majority of my acid search has taken place in southern NJ. but im pokin around a bit here too. i gotta get in the hallucinogen crowd first though. right now the people i chill with just smoke bud and drink.
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