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OfflineMello KittyS
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Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson
    #13983762 - 02/18/11 10:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Suicidal Ideation - Gonzo & Me

Suicidal Ideation wiki definition

Suicidal ideation is a common medical term for thoughts about suicide, which may be as detailed as a formulated plan, without the suicidal act itself. Although most people who undergo suicidal ideation do not commit suicide, some go on to make suicide attempts. The range of suicidal ideation varies greatly from fleeting to detailed planning, role playing and unsuccessful attempts, which may be deliberately constructed to fail or be discovered, or may be fully intended to succeed.

How am I not Myself, Why didnt anyone Help? A blog Article about H.S.T suicide

"Thompson died at his self-described "fortified compound" known as "Owl Farm" in Woody Creek, Colorado, at 5:42 p.m. on February 20, 2005, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head." -from wiki

Rolling Stone Published Suicide Note:

"No More Games.
No More Bombs. No More Walking.
No More Fun. No More Swimming.
67. That is 17 years past 50.
17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring.
I am always bitchy. No Fun – for anybody.
67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age.
Relax – This won’t hurt."
- Hunter S Thompson


Suicidal Ideation is one thing i find i have in common with Hunter S Thompson. i have been this way going back as far as i can remember into my childhood. looking at my life in retrospect i have changed/progressed/evolved/& failed in many ways but the Sole constant thought that has always remained on my mind is Suicide. this may come as a shock to you, it may not. to the people that personally know me (family & friends) this is no shock. i write about this now because i have just learned of the definition of Suicidal Ideation and i couldnt help but to think, OMG that has been me my entire life. now making this connection i would like to share/ponder/ & elaborate.

i didnt come out of the womb already knowing who Hunter S Thompson was like some of you's may. i actually didnt find out about him until my later, more recent years. i have even Seen Fear & Loathing before i knew it was based on a Real Person. the thing that gets at me the most is what Hunter says in his Suicide Note about his age. 67, how he never wanted to live passed 50. when i heard this i thought it was so weird. Hunter and My common ground gets closer. this is something i have said since i was 10 years old. i have always thought that a human has seen enough in 20 years, the rest is just Bullshit repetition. whats the point?

years before i ever knew of Hunter i said out loud to the people i know that i do not want to live passed 50, truly thinking in my mind i did not want to live passed 40.. to me thats 20 years twice over. way too much repetition. again whats the point. i look at elderly people who are to the point that they cant even take care of themselves. i know in my heart i will never be that way. why grow old? i do not want to grow old.

see Suicide Legislation wiki

This world to me is a Prison, my Body a Cage. i am not this person, i am not this Name, i am not this body. who i am is the electrical charge in my Nervous System that keeps me alive, the Soul? who knows. something not meant for this world. something unseen, unheard, with no voice. the fact that Suicide is Illegally and Morally Wrong in every Philosophy/religion/Law has made itself Self-Aware. this world has become a competitive capitalist Rat-race. the illegality and moral stance on Suicide is programmed into us at birth and through many generations to keep us here so that we continue to CONSUME, OBEY, FETCH, & ROLL OVER on command. this is the reason that the people that have attempted Suicide were Resuscitated. so that we can continue to CONSUME and benefit those who rule this world with an Iron-Fist.

why am i still here after all these years of Suicidal Ideation? maybe because its just that, Ideation. maybe Hunter and i are not alike at all. maybe i am not Truly Suicidal and He is, this is argumentative. i have always been OCD and not in the sense of Germs. in the sense of Extremism most noted here by my Hello Kitty Obsession (& others). im always at one extreme end of the sprectrum. never in the middle. when im Happy im more happy than a person could ever be. when im Sad im more Sadder than 10 people can be. when im Mad, well watch out... for this i have been diagnosed as Bi-Polar type 2. i go untreated and i am told this is why i "self-medicate" and where my Addictions stem. but anyway,

going back to why im still here? i have always been the type of person to want to take the easy way out. whether be school, Job, a Game, Life.. i did manage to finish Highschool but i broke the system to the point that it catered my way through. this made me think that i could do this with life. but you cannot. i am a 3 time college Dropout which has costed me a lot in debt, & misfortune. which is the reason i dont want to try anything or take that initial Leap because i know myself, i know if i cant find an easy way i will give up and have to pay the consequences.

maybe because i have grown accustomed to taking the easy way out. Suicide is the Ultimate Easy Way Out. i think this is why i am so titillated by the Idea. believe me it is not for attention. this has gone on my entire life, there is no more shock value or attention left to be given. when i get to the point that i speak my Suicidal thoughts or Plans to the people around me it falls apon Deaf Ears. this i dont mind, for i am used to being this way myself.

i do not fear Hellfire or Earthly Legislation. my thinking and being is beyond the reach of this. their Arguments used to be that i AM SELFISH if i take my own life. that i am robbing the people around me who truly love and care for me. and throughout the years of feeling this. this has made me feel like a caged animal. i am quite the Thinker/Seeker. when i got to thinking i start to believe that THEY are the ones who are truly selfish. Keeping Me here to continue torturing my Soul. this finally Shut everyone up. they have nothing to say in rebuttal. what can you really say? nothing... i am not a violent person. i must project my emotion somewhere, so i project it unto myself.. i have never made attempts but when i was at my worst, on Heroin. i did formulate a plan.

Shroomery DO NOT FEAR. this is not a cry for help or attention. this is not a note that will end with me at the end of a Noose. i am simply putting my thoughts down for myself and others to read. maybe there are others who feel this way like me that can read this and take something from it. you are not alone. maybe we can even talk and share. i dont have much of a voice anymore. Shroomery and the Pub are starting to get to know the real me more than the people that now surround me in the Prison that i have created for myself. say nothing, make fun, say something... it is what it is

R*I*P H.S.T may you finally have found your Peace



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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983802 - 02/18/11 10:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well :sad:

i thought this was gonna happen.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983820 - 02/18/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There is no point on fantasizing the act of suicide.

My opinion is to either shut up and do it, or change your life around to make yourself want to live. There is always a brighter side even in the darkness. Life makes absolutely no difference either way. You will not be remembered, you will be forgotten, unlike many who decided to live and become great. Live happily. There is no point in living if all you are is miserable. Be the change you want to see. I know what pain is, and I would not live in this world if I had to endure an overbearing pain the rest of my life. It is not worth it. I like this world, but not that much.

Death will come either way you choose to live, though. :biggrin:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983830 - 02/18/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ellen are you sure you're ok? Seems like you're in a bit of a bad mood these days, sorry if that was an understatement.

Hey, I know what you mean, believe me...I am bipolar 2 myself, and there have been points in my life where I was sure I won't live past 40, there just didn't seem to be anything worth living for, and when I am down I can smell death around me, seeping trough the cracks of reality into my mind and feelings and showing me things I found morbidly comforting, I've gotten better though, I still don't think I'll die of old age or any disease other then that which will guide my own hands, but fuck till then I have a world to conquer and fuck it if I am going to give up.

I am on meds and that makes a huge difference, I am still looking for the balance between insanity and depression but I am getting there, not saying anything, but I think meds saved my life as a whole not just in the physical sense.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13983841 - 02/18/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I plan on suicide as my way out of here, not because I'm depressed but because I watched my grandpa wither away and end up in a coma for 10 days.  I'm not ending it until I'm terminally ill and even then, who knows, suicide by cop :evil:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983850 - 02/18/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:hug: HuGZz!1

the wrong thing to do is stop. just keep dancing like the amanitas.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13983860 - 02/18/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I attempted suicide once, and spent many months in a psychiatric hospital. If you ever need to talk about anything, feel free to PM me. I can listen, and I know what it feels like.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13983896 - 02/18/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Suicide is saying, "I'm to weak take anymore so I'm out." I never got this because I will never have enough time or life experiences in my lifetime to do and see everything. There are so many things to see and do. Life is awesome and if I could live a million years I would. I am too strong minded to be anything but ready for whats next. People that are healthy and start talking about suicide like it's something they are considering need help. Death is the worst thing to go running twards just because your bored or life has thrown shit at you. Hunter s Thompson was a awesome writer and cool individual, but his talks of suicide make me LOSE respect for him. Weakness is never something I have found helpful and he was preaching it there.

Like many, the man thought to much. Just shut up, stop thinking so deep into things and enjoy yourself. Life doesn't need to that damn complicated. Eat breath shit sleep. Other than that go have a fucking ball.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Nordique]
    #13983901 - 02/18/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

thanx for the replies. my immediate thought was that this might become a DO NOT TOUCH topic, or even get Locked. but some of most of your responses are a success. nothing fancy, i will prolly go out on an O.D. someday ( i have joked about suicide by Cop )

when i was young, my mum being so Religious. and seeing all the bad in the world. my first thoughts of Suicide were to be so that i would choose my way out. not let the God give me Cancer or take me out in a Car Accident. i always thought, if im going to die, it will be by my hand, my decision.

i have grown out of blaming and hating Gods for the misfortune in the world


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty] * 2
    #13983913 - 02/18/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ellen, you really need to find ways to occupy your time other than just drugs and the shroomery. I know you're in the grips of polydrug dependency, but doing something, anything, to free yourself up will help to break down this prison you describe.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: DrMambo]
    #13983915 - 02/18/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

^^^^

:sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad::sad:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983920 - 02/18/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

ellenallien said:
Suicidal Ideation - Gonzo & Me

R*I*P H.S.T may you finally have found your Peace






Who is that guy ?


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Noetical]
    #13983923 - 02/18/11 10:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

johnny shmepp.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Noetical]
    #13983924 - 02/18/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Noetical said:
Quote:

ellenallien said:
Suicidal Ideation - Gonzo & Me

R*I*P H.S.T may you finally have found your Peace






Who is that guy ?




:finger: :trollz:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983928 - 02/18/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I often think about suicide, but I don't think I'd ever actually do it. I think it's an OCD-type reaction to unpleasant thoughts; I just cut them off with a thought-picture of me shooting myself through the head. Silence those demons with a threat.

I don't know if that's healthy or not. I don't think I'd ACTUALLY commit suicide, unless I had damn better reasons than I have now.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13983934 - 02/18/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

hey very cool. this is suicidal ideation. thanx for the input :hug:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada] * 2
    #13983938 - 02/18/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada said:
Just shut up, stop thinking so deep into things and enjoy yourself. Life doesn't need to that damn complicated. Eat breath shit sleep. Other than that go have a fucking ball.




Good advice.  OP, sometimes I feel this way too, particularly when I start thinking about how life is ultimately pointless and nothing matters in the long run.  The best way I've found to conquer this brooding nihilism is to distract yourself: find a hobby or something that interests you and pursue it.  It doesn't have to be a world-changing hobby or anything deeply meaningful (after all, isn't everything meaningless in the long run?), but it has to be interesting enough to hold your attention and prevent your mind from wandering back to suicidal ideation by letting you enjoy the simple activity.  Currently, for instance, I'm working my way through a textbook on Symbolic Logic.  I'll probably never use the information I'm learning in it but I find the material fascinating and it's something I enjoy doing.  Take up rock-climbing, or become a poker pro.  Start a D&D club with some friends, or work your way through an author's entire set of books or a director's set of films.  Do whatever you want; this is your life and you might as well spend the remainder of it doing something fun than waste it thinking about the inevitable.

:2cents: at any rate.  :shrug2:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983947 - 02/18/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i have the same problem!!11

:wave:

but i enjoy my useless life.
so i am taking my time killing myself... doing it slowly. :yesnod:

YEAHHH!!!!


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: DrMambo]
    #13983948 - 02/18/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Ellen, you really need to find ways to occupy your time other than just drugs and the shroomery. I know you're in the grips of polydrug dependency, but doing something, anything, to free yourself up will help to break down this prison you describe.




I agree with this, too. Do you ever go on hikes, Ellen? Are there any national parks in your area?

I say you go on a hike every day, be it around town or in a park. Doctor's orders. You can get high first if you want, but go on that fucking hike or I'll have to call in the muscle.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983961 - 02/18/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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thanx for the replies. my immediate thought was that this might become a DO NOT TOUCH topic, or even get Locked. but some of most of your responses are a success. nothing fancy, i will prolly go out on an O.D. someday ( i have joked about suicide by Cop )

when i was young, my mum being so Religious. and seeing all the bad in the world. my first thoughts of Suicide were to be so that i would choose my way out. not let the God give me Cancer or take me out in a Car Accident. i always thought, if im going to die, it will be by my hand, my decision.

i have grown out of blaming and hating Gods for the misfortune in the world



GO find your happy place and stop over analyzing everything. Find your reason to endure and you will be thankful for it. There is no reason for someone to kill themselves other than they are sick and in pain. You need professional help if you can't do this on your own. Most people that are unhappy with their lives just need to change their situation. Sell everything you own but some cloths and your car and just drive. Go do wild things like hitchhike to south america. Shit, your wanting to die anyways so go be reckless. Die living like you have never lived before. IF I die before my time it's going to be because I was doing something stupid and adrenalin was pumping through my veins while I did something I knew was dangerous as hell. Don't go out in a fizzle, go out so people say HOLY SHIT!

Oh, and there are no gods here. Just you and damn near 7 billion other idiots on a rock floating through space. Were on our own so lets party! Stay on the devils road as long as you can.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13983962 - 02/18/11 10:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983963 - 02/18/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It dosen't even look like depp
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ellenallien said:
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Noetical said:
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ellenallien said:
Suicidal Ideation - Gonzo & Me

R*I*P H.S.T may you finally have found your Peace






Who is that guy ?




:finger: :trollz:




I'm not trying to troll you baby cakes I'm just curious whose myspace the emo hunter came off of


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Noetical]
    #13983969 - 02/18/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Isn't that him? Sure looks like it...


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Noetical]
    #13983971 - 02/18/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That would be Hunter Thompson himself dude.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Noetical] * 1
    #13983973 - 02/18/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I'm not trying to troll you baby cakes I'm just curious whose myspace the emo hunter came off of





eat shit, sweet nigcake.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13983974 - 02/18/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I feel 100% the same way as you, i read it all and thought "Damn, this is ME". Ive always had "a plan", ever since i was a young teenager. Just knowing theres a way out makes it just a little bit easier to grind through the days. Knowing that i dont HAVE to put up with everything, but i choose to. Why i choose to? I really dont know anymore, the light at the end of the tunnel that ive been running down turned into a train barreling down on me, i guess once we collide itll be time to go, but for now i trudge through for no other reason than to see what tomorrow holds...

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13983987 - 02/18/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level.



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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13983990 - 02/18/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My opinion is that we deal with shit so we can rise above it, and in rising above it find our life's fulfillment. I think Earth and Heaven, God and Humans are separate so that there might be an opportunity for reconciliation. I think we heal and are "reborn" so to speak when we realize that separatism is an illusion... and yet you can see it from both points of view. You can see the world as shattered into a million pieces that can't be put back together, or you can see the infinite potential of the individual and collective life as part of the whole. But you CHOOSE how you see it, and that choice dictates your level of happiness, your problems, and your direction in life.
There is creativity buried under all your self-formed layers of anxiety and worthlessness. All that needs to be done is to free your mind- liberate yourself from yourself and live in the moment. Nothing is ever wrong in the moment, only when you think back to situations that could have ended differently, or project emotions and past memories onto the future, worrying or fantasizing about what amount to mere dreams. Life is NOT a struggle. If it's a struggle then something is amiss. Life is about fruition. Make it easy on yourself and let your desires lead you... in each and every moment do exactly what you want to do.
I hope that doesn't mean suicide... I hope you hope that too.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13984002 - 02/18/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.




No. YOU don't get it. Everything is beatable, some is just harder to beat than others. It takes time and effort to mend broken things. I've been in a rut, I'm sure we all have, we all know it isn't easy, but thats what makes us strong. You have to build a will to live and you have to WANT to at least CHANGE things... thats the first step. There doesn't have to be logic involved, just a will to want change, a will to want to be better. You get out what you put in, if you mop around thinking about suicide all day, odds are, you won't ever get better. If you try and be proactive, join a sport, pick up hobbies, go talk to random strangers just for the fuck it, go scuba diving, take a vacation, go take some drugs you never would before. Doing something proactive will always be the way to beat depression. Boredom breeds depression.

PS. This is a perspective from somebody who was on the thin lines of killing myself. Being deathly sick for 6 months made me extremely depressed and the pain I was in wasn't worth living through. I'm lucky I decided to keep through it all, because I'm 100% better a year and a half later. Very happpy.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: priestess]
    #13984011 - 02/18/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what entails "no struggle", in your opinion?


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984016 - 02/18/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think what it comes down to is that everybody has a different mind which processes and categorizes its thoughts/experiences uniquely. Am I going to have to quote the Diff'rent Strokes theme song again?


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13984020 - 02/18/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.



If you think I haven't been where you say you are at just because I am a happy go lucky individual now your wrong. Medication and distraction. I started a family and learned many many things and have many many hobbies now. I am constantly distracted because thats what it takes. I learned to say "fuck it" and not think to much about things. It will drive you insane.

Killing yourself is easy. Easy as hell. I use to cut myself for fun. Harming myself would be no problem. I got so use to pain it doesn't even register as pain. I had spine problems and couldn't walk very well. I was in pain for 6 years after hurting myself every single day. I was so drugged up and hated life.

I took my own advice from my last 2 posts and now here I am ready to face anything.

I guess medication worked. It helped that my spine is fixed and I feel less pain than I have in a long time. I still feel some pain, but it doesn't make me want to end it at all.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984022 - 02/18/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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13.step said:
Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.




No. YOU don't get it. Everything is beatable, some is just harder to beat than others. It takes time and effort to mend broken things. I've been in a rut, I'm sure we all have, we all know it isn't easy, but thats what makes us strong. You have to build a will to live and you have to WANT to at least CHANGE things... thats the first step. There doesn't have to be logic involved, just a will to want change, a will to want to be better. You get out what you put in, if you mop around thinking about suicide all day, odds are, you won't ever get better. If you try and be proactive, join a sport, pick up hobbies, go talk to random strangers just for the fuck it, go scuba diving, take a vacation, go take some drugs you never would before. Doing something proactive will always be the way to beat depression. Boredom breeds depression.

PS. This is a perspective from somebody who was on the thin lines of killing myself. Being deathly sick for 6 months made me extremely depressed and the pain I was in wasn't worth living through. I'm lucky I decided to keep through it all, because I'm 100% better a year and a half later. Very happpy.



honestly... i can see many contradictions here...

like boredom is a breeding ground for depression? hmmm? isn't it also a breeding ground for doing something creative and taking step out of the familiar mundane?

but good that you kept on going, man.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984028 - 02/18/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada said:
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13.step said:
Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.



If you think I haven't been where you say you are at just because I am a happy go lucky individual now your wrong. Medication and distraction. I started a family and learned many many things and have many many hobbies now. I am constantly distracted because thats what it takes. I learned to say "fuck it" and not think to much about things. It will drive you insane.

Killing yourself is easy. Easy as hell. I use to cut myself for fun. Harming myself would be no problem. I got so use to pain it doesn't even register as pain. I had spine problems and couldn't walk very well. I was in pain for 6 years after hurting myself every single day. I was so drugged up and hated life.

I took my own advice from my last 2 posts and now here I am ready to face anything.

I guess medication worked. It helped that my spine is fixed and I feel less pain than I have in a long time. I still feel some pain, but it doesn't make me want to end it at all.

It's not me that doesn't get it it's you.




wow...
deflect much?

does every here have to deflect?

so what, you got a family!1 HOW PREDICTABLE. CONGRATS

no really... congrats... :smirk:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13984037 - 02/18/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There is a difference between being bored and being a person who will go out and do something about it

and a person who stays bored all day and does nothing about it, everyday.

So no, it isn't a contradiction.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #13984043 - 02/18/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)



it appears i missed something in the note (i took from Rolling Stone site)

"Football Season is Over..."

in any case thanx for sharing and advice. i have hiked, i have done this & that and almost everything there is to do. i have had and done many hobbies and interesting things. i have almost died hiking 2 days in the Colorado Rockies, i have almost died hiking 4 days in the Grand Canyon. i have experienced enough in my 22 years of existence. ever feel passed the point? (not saying that i am) or that life is just Bullshit repetition?

those of you who said to stop over-thinking and analyzing are right. this is why i take substances in the 1st place. to simply stop thinking. thats why Heroin is my Drug of Choice. in any case please continue to share. im glad we can reach each other and i think this can be positive.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984045 - 02/18/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Killing yourself is easy. Easy as hell.




Not necessarily... it takes guts to pull that trigger and jump into the unknown.  Of course it can also be extremely difficult to continue living in the face of hardships.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984052 - 02/18/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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There is a difference between being bored and being a person who will go out and do something about it

and a person who stays bored all day and does nothing about it, everyday.

So no, it isn't a contradiction.



cop out.

it's just a cop out... you are just doing wha anyone would do... and so is the OP.

so really, it's a cop out.

go get something NEW11! yeh.. fuck, it's already UNDERSTOOD. isn't it? that's what boredom does. but when you've done enough, and there is nothing to live for, what next? what is the next thing?

it's not THAT simple.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984061 - 02/18/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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in any case thanx for sharing and advice. i have hiked, i have done this & that and almost everything there is to do. i have had and done many hobbies and interesting things. i have almost died hiking 2 days in the Colorado Rockies, i have almost died hiking 4 days in the Grand Canyon. i have experienced enough in my 22 years of existence. ever feel passed the point? (not saying that i am) or that life is just Bullshit repetition?




:blush: Start biking?

I'm telling you, I've been in that pit before too, though with booze instead of heroin. You might scoff at that idea, but I happen to know heroin isn't that much harder than booze, and they're used in the same way to escape from boredom, repetition, and pain you can't face.

The key - to replace all those horrible bad thoughts with good ones - is a multifaceted process. It takes time, and yes, it's going to take some repetition, and some submission to the harsher realities of life. But living in the sun is so much nicer a way to wile away the hours you have left on this earth, regardless to any drug addictions or crippling ennui you may live with.


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    #13984064 - 02/18/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.



If you think I haven't been where you say you are at just because I am a happy go lucky individual now your wrong. Medication and distraction. I started a family and learned many many things and have many many hobbies now. I am constantly distracted because thats what it takes. I learned to say "fuck it" and not think to much about things. It will drive you insane.

Killing yourself is easy. Easy as hell. I use to cut myself for fun. Harming myself would be no problem. I got so use to pain it doesn't even register as pain. I had spine problems and couldn't walk very well. I was in pain for 6 years after hurting myself every single day. I was so drugged up and hated life.

I took my own advice from my last 2 posts and now here I am ready to face anything.

I guess medication worked. It helped that my spine is fixed and I feel less pain than I have in a long time. I still feel some pain, but it doesn't make me want to end it at all.

It's not me that doesn't get it it's you.




wow...
deflect much?

does every here have to deflect?

so what, you got a family!1 HOW PREDICTABLE. CONGRATS

no really... congrats... :smirk:



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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984069 - 02/18/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you're all jumping around over nothing that has to do with you peeps.

hyper-convicted-mothers'. that is what you people are.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13984074 - 02/18/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
There is a difference between being bored and being a person who will go out and do something about it

and a person who stays bored all day and does nothing about it, everyday.

So no, it isn't a contradiction.



cop out.

it's just a cop out... you are just doing wha anyone would do... and so is the OP.

so really, it's a cop out.

go get something NEW11! yeh.. fuck, it's already UNDERSTOOD. isn't it? that's what boredom does. but when you've done enough, and there is nothing to live for, what next? what is the next thing?

it's not THAT simple.




Seriously?

If you honestly can't find something new in this world to interest you then you might just be retarded.

There is so much fun shit to do in this world that you DO NOT have enough time in 100 years to even do it all. Puh-lease. What you wrote is a cop out for someone who just gives up without trying.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: deCypher]
    #13984078 - 02/18/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Kada said:
Killing yourself is easy. Easy as hell.




Not necessarily... it takes guts to pull that trigger and jump into the unknown.  Of course it can also be extremely difficult to continue living in the face of hardships.




its like a Double-Edged Sword. it seems easy, but than again its not. i have found myself standing at the edge of a cliff staring over and thinking "it could be that easy, Head first" but then i joke and say i will end up quadriplegic instead.

when confronted with death or the decision of suicide, i always wanted to go out on the :syringe: and i can think of 2-3 occasions i should have. but i am told that maybe i am just not ready..

and about Heroin and other addictions.. i think all addictions are the same and just as hard to kick. addiction is addiction. its hardest for the person who actually discovers what they are truly addicted to rather than those who havent yet..


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    #13984085 - 02/18/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Isn't that him? Sure looks like it...




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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13984086 - 02/18/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you're all jumping around over nothing that has to do with you peeps.

hyper-convicted-mothers'. that is what you people are.




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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984097 - 02/18/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
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akira_akuma said:
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Uzziel said:
There is a difference between being bored and being a person who will go out and do something about it

and a person who stays bored all day and does nothing about it, everyday.

So no, it isn't a contradiction.



cop out.

it's just a cop out... you are just doing wha anyone would do... and so is the OP.

so really, it's a cop out.

go get something NEW11! yeh.. fuck, it's already UNDERSTOOD. isn't it? that's what boredom does. but when you've done enough, and there is nothing to live for, what next? what is the next thing?

it's not THAT simple.




Seriously?

If you honestly can't find something new in this world to interest you then you might just be retarded.

There is so much fun shit to do in this world that you DO NOT have enough time in 100 years to even do it all. Puh-lease. What you wrote is a cop out for someone who just gives up without trying.



no. that's just what you are pasting your convictions on. puh-lease is right. i never said that you couldn't find something new... when did i say that? read it again and show me. i believe i said... "what's next?".


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13984103 - 02/18/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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akira_akuma said:
you're all jumping around over nothing that has to do with you peeps.

hyper-convicted-mothers'. that is what you people are.




Right? Talk about thread-jacking. People can be so self-centered.



i hate being devils advocate. but there is no justice.  :nonono:

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984106 - 02/18/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man chill, as I stated that was how I experienced suicidal ideation, and bipolar isn't the same as depression because of a physical illness or the downs we all go trough. I don't know you, I just replied to what you said, and that is what I get from a lot of people, you're weak you can't get over the difficulties life presents to all of us or yeah, we all fell depression, why do you complain?

Well guess what, it's not that easy, it's easy to learn to say fuck it of you are in physical pain and that causes your depression. But what happens if you just get up one morning and you're feeling like all your friends hate you, everything is going wrong and there is no future for you because nothing really makes you feel anything other then black emptiness although nothing has changed from the day before? To say fuck it in that situation would be to take the final step.

Seriously man, don't take it personally I was just saying how I've experienced it, let's not start a my depression is worse then yours war in here, no need to contradict one another because we experience live differently.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984110 - 02/18/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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If you honestly can't find something new in this world to interest you then you might just be retarded.

There is so much fun shit to do in this world that you DO NOT have enough time in 100 years to even do it all.




i do understand this.. i can think of something new i discovered.. im not going to mention cus u will laugh. and whenever i did it, it felt so good was so much fun it was like a new Drug.

but im at rock bottom 3x's over right now. piss broke. stuck in the ghetto i dont even want to walk outside this place. my mind is all F**d up from lacking different chemicals. its harder for some people in their situations not to be bored, or even to WANT to do anything at all


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    #13984114 - 02/18/11 11:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have no idea how I was doing anything but helping.

I stated that I had similar issues and how I overcame them. I thought that would help and contribute, but retarded people came in and told me I was wrong. lol ok I guess distraction didn't help me through depression and addiction. I guess building a family and not thinking about shit so much didn't help either. Oh wait it did and I would be dead if it didn't.

Some of you guys can be fucking idiots sometimes. Oh and some of you need to use the reply to function a little more.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984126 - 02/18/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no, no you started insinuating and ringing up your bullshit, before you said anything to contribute.

the biggest contribution you made was "don't listen to this guy, listen to me@! i went through something and it was as simple as this!"

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #13984127 - 02/18/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Seriously?

If you honestly can't find something new in this world to interest you then you might just be retarded.

There is so much fun shit to do in this world that you DO NOT have enough time in 100 years to even do it all. Puh-lease. What you wrote is a cop out for someone who just gives up without trying.




I think the only one retarded in here might be the one who doesn't understand any other experience then his own, get your head out of your ass and don't assume that everybody is like you, now go and enjoy the world and come back when you see what I mean kid.

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    #13984132 - 02/18/11 11:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just shut up, stop thinking so deep into things and enjoy yourself. Life doesn't need to that damn complicated. Eat breath shit sleep. Other than that go have a fucking ball.




Good advice.  OP, sometimes I feel this way too, particularly when I start thinking about how life is ultimately pointless and nothing matters in the long run.  The best way I've found to conquer this brooding nihilism is to distract yourself: find a hobby or something that interests you and pursue it.  It doesn't have to be a world-changing hobby or anything deeply meaningful (after all, isn't everything meaningless in the long run?), but it has to be interesting enough to hold your attention and prevent your mind from wandering back to suicidal ideation by letting you enjoy the simple activity.  Currently, for instance, I'm working my way through a textbook on Symbolic Logic.  I'll probably never use the information I'm learning in it but I find the material fascinating and it's something I enjoy doing.  Take up rock-climbing, or become a poker pro.  Start a D&D club with some friends, or work your way through an author's entire set of books or a director's set of films.  Do whatever you want; this is your life and you might as well spend the remainder of it doing something fun than waste it thinking about the inevitable.

:2cents: at any rate.  :shrug2:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13984141 - 02/18/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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no, no you started insinuating and ringing up your bullshit, before you said anything to contribute.

the biggest contribution you made was "don't listen to this guy, listen to me@! i went through something and it was as simple as this!"

"yeah! i distracted myself! WERP!"



:drama:

Your pathetic. I don't know how you got that from this thread. I'm out.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: morrowasted]
    #13984142 - 02/18/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984143 - 02/18/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Kada.. i envy you and your family and i wish you and them the best this world has to offer.

if i wasnt so F**D up and had my S**T together i would have a family. i have been with the same guy for a really long time and i think we have used condoms maybe 2wice in our relationship. in all that time we have never tried NOT to have a baby, but never tried TOO either.. my stance is if it happens it happens...

one of the main questions anyone asks me is WHEN im going to have kids!? we think one of us is broke. i think me... anyway there is always adoption if/when i do get my stuff together


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984156 - 02/18/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you gotta do it yourself. the kids? there ya go.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984169 - 02/18/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Suicide is saying, "I'm to weak take anymore so I'm out."

I never got this because I will never have enough time or life experiences in my lifetime to do and see everything. There are so many things to see and do. Life is awesome and if I could live a million years I would. I am too strong minded to be anything but ready for whats next. People that are healthy and start talking about suicide like it's something they are considering need help.

Death is the worst thing to go running twards just because your bored or life has thrown shit at you. Hunter s Thompson was a awesome writer and cool individual, but his talks of suicide make me LOSE respect for him. Weakness is never something I have found helpful and he was preaching it there.

Like many, the man thought to much. Just shut up, stop thinking so deep into things and enjoy yourself. Life doesn't need to that damn complicated. Eat breath shit sleep. Other than that go have a fucking ball.




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no, no you started insinuating and ringing up your bullshit, before you said anything to contribute.

the biggest contribution you made was "don't listen to this guy, listen to me@! i went through something and it was as simple as this!"

"yeah! i distracted myself! WERP!"



:drama:

Your pathetic. I don't know how you got that from this thread. I'm out.

Sorry RP. Continue on with your discussion.



and hey, you're better now, right? so don't worry about me, man.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: akira_akuma]
    #13984170 - 02/18/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i do not recomend having Kids if one cannot even take care of oneself :shrug: i would be a shitty mom right now


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984171 - 02/18/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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i do not recomend having Kids if one cannot even take care of oneself :shrug: i would be a shitty mom right now



well, there is a goal. :shrug:

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Uzziel]
    #13984174 - 02/18/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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    #13984178 - 02/18/11 11:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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That would be Hunter Thompson himself dude.



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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984191 - 02/18/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what someone said about losing respect for H.S.T when he talks about suicide. this kinda makes sense i never put it into that perspective.

but im at the other end of the spectrum. i feel like I have the gift of Sight, and others, those who want to live and participate in this World they are the BLIND, weak cattle being lead by the carrot. no offenses, just trying to show another perspective


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    #13984199 - 02/18/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Life can be awesome it really can. Stick with it and keep your head up high. There is nothing wrong with seeing a professional about your problems. I did and it helped. The meds made me a zombie for awhile, but I found my path. I hope you find yours and I hope it's awesome.

I thought I would add that walking through the woods naked is exhilarating. Everyone should do it at least once. :grin:

akira_akuma whats your beef? Nice job on quoting me and using the bold fuction.  :sarcasticclap:

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984212 - 02/18/11 11:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think the responsibility (or lack thereof) inherent to committing suicide reeeaaally depends on the circumstances of the suicide.

Take HST, for example. He lived a long life. I don't know if he had kids, but I'm sure they were taken care of by the time he reached 67. He did a lot of cool things, wrote some memorable books, had many moments in the sun. By the time he made the decision to take his own life, he was in extreme chronic pain. He felt that his sun had set, and he didn't feel like sitting around in the darkness for God-knows-how-long, so he made the choice to bow out. Good for him. There is no shame in what he did IMO.

On the other hand, to commit suicide at the dawn of your life, because you have the doldrums... this is irresponsible, unforgivable. You are depriving the world of your love and light and presence, you are depriving yourself of the chance to live, you are slapping your family, your friends, even God in the face for having made you.

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984216 - 02/18/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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akira_akuma whats your beef? Nice job on quoting me and using the bold fuction.  :sarcasticclap:

Respond in a message so your clutter wont be included in this thread.




what? i was just awesomely separating your bullshit to make a point. isn't that... isn't that what i should have done? :smirk: i could have sworn. you're supposed to parade convictions about other points of view other then yours, aren't you?


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984230 - 02/18/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

not reading through the whole thread here's my opinion: HST was an outlaw. he did dangerous stuff, he lived in the edge without regrets and fully aware that one slip would end his life or put him in jail. it wasn't about hedonism or "i might die tomorrow so lets shoot h" bs. it was something else, that regular people find hard to relate to. he was a free man. that meant he shaped his life and destiny and also death. its the ultimate freedom. whoever spins that "suicide is for cowards" is at least partly afraid of dying imo and can't face the fact that someone is not driven to suicide by despair but by pride and truth. its not glorification or justification of killing yourself, its just something you can relate to or not, depends on your personal degree of freedom.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #13984233 - 02/18/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984249 - 02/18/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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what someone said about losing respect for H.S.T when he talks about suicide. this kinda makes sense i never put it into that perspective.

but im at the other end of the spectrum. i feel like I have the gift of Sight, and others, those who want to live and participate in this World they are the BLIND, weak cattle being lead by the carrot. no offenses, just trying to show another perspective



I understand. I feel exactly the opposite tho. I can live and live well while not participating in the social rat race. I don't buy into society's bullshit anymore than you do. That doesn't mean I won't use the shit out of it to get what I want to be happy. I don't need them but I will use their stuff. You don't have to be one of the cattle to live in the world. Live how you want and try to find others of like mind to socialize with. Don't feel trapped, feel empowered knowing your more enlightened than the jackass standing in line ahead of you.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984252 - 02/18/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

what about GOING OUT AT YOUR PEAK?



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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984296 - 02/18/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would rather live and die hard than go out at my peak.

When I'm 90 years old I hope I can reflect on my life and say, "I DID THAT AND I OUT SURVIVED ALL OF YOU!" I will still be doin thangs then. I'm not sure my life will stop peaking so why go out when I don't know the future?


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Kada]
    #13984311 - 02/18/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I would rather live and die hard than go out at my peak.

When I'm 90 years old I hope I can reflect on my life and say, "I DID THAT AND I OUT SURVIVED ALL OF YOU!" I will still be doin thangs then. I'm not sure my life will stop peaking so why go out when I don't know the future?





thats a pretty narrowminded concept considering you're not living the life HST lived and then be chained to a wheelchair and be in constant pain becoming  living relic crushed by your own fame.


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    #13984334 - 02/18/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah that's what I've been trying to tell him, everybody experiences life differently, he doesn't seem to be able to grasp it.


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    #13984335 - 02/18/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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what about GOING OUT AT YOUR PEAK?





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    #13984343 - 02/18/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

HST's a hero of mine. Brilliant author. I wouldn't look to far into his suicide though, the man wanted to die at 50 since he was a young man. He was tired of living. He never got to relive those 2-3 years in the 60's that he spent the wrest of his life writing about. Just grew tired of life :shrug:


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    #13984358 - 02/18/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Lol GG Allin,:lol: he did use the heroin wisely, I don't doubt it that he would have done something really stupid...


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    #13984359 - 02/18/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't ever wanna die though, I want to do everything in my power to live forever, no matter how miserable :shrug:

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    #13984363 - 02/18/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I wouldn't look to far into his suicide though, the man wanted to die at 50 since he was a young man. He was tired of living.




one of my points in the Original Post something we have in common. i have always thought this my whole life. and i only really only just learned of H.S.T the past 4-5 years. i was awestruck at the strange coincidence when i 1st learned.

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He never got to relive those 2-3 years in the 60's that he spent the wrest of his life writing about. Just grew tired of life :shrug:




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    #13984375 - 02/18/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

GG was nutso.

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I wouldn't look to far into his suicide though, the man wanted to die at 50 since he was a young man. He was tired of living.




one of my points in the Original Post something we have in common. i have always thought this my whole life. and i only really only just learned of H.S.T the past 4-5 years. i was awestruck at the strange coincidence when i 1st learned.

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He never got to relive those 2-3 years in the 60's that he spent the wrest of his life writing about. Just grew tired of life :shrug:




good point :thumbup:




HST really hit another level with Fear & Loathing. Other then that he was only a lunatic and a decent author, but F&L and some of his early works and magazine pieces are just reminiscent of something amazing. I think he made the plan to kill himself @ 50 during his hay day, when he realized things would never be like they were ever again. He got sucked into having a family and becoming famous, and like the note says, I think he felt that he was a coward for not going through with it, and wanted to make amends to himself by killing himself :shrug:


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    #13984424 - 02/18/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I would rather live and die hard than go out at my peak.

When I'm 90 years old I hope I can reflect on my life and say, "I DID THAT AND I OUT SURVIVED ALL OF YOU!" I will still be doin thangs then. I'm not sure my life will stop peaking so why go out when I don't know the future?





thats a pretty narrowminded concept considering you're not living the life HST lived and then be chained to a wheelchair and be in constant pain becoming  living relic crushed by your own fame.



I guess we have our limits. I could live in a wheel chair even tho my favorite things include hiking and mountain biking. I know I couldn't and wouldn't live blind. If I lost my sight I'm sure I would change my mind real fast. If I couldn't read or survive by myself I wouldn't call that living.

Your right. I'm not in his situation and didn't know how miserable he was in the last days. People have their limits and he reached his. I thought he was just done with living because he had already done so much. I didn't know being in a wheelchair was so unbearable for him.


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My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #13984652 - 02/18/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Rolling Stone Published Suicide Note:

"No More Games.
No More Bombs. No More Walking.
No More Fun. No More Swimming.
67. That is 17 years past 50.
17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring.
I am always bitchy. No Fun – for anybody.
67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age.
Relax – This won’t hurt."
- Hunter S Thompson




HST's suicide note is one of the most powerful paragraphs I've ever read in my life.

One day football season will be over for all of us. Some people walk, some people run, but everyone finishes eventually. I'll quote a guy who quoted a guy when he said "It's better to burn out than to fade away"


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: gzuf]
    #13984710 - 02/18/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just shut up, stop thinking so deep into things and enjoy yourself. Life doesn't need to that damn complicated. Eat breath shit sleep. Other than that go have a fucking ball.




Good advice.  OP, sometimes I feel this way too, particularly when I start thinking about how life is ultimately pointless and nothing matters in the long run.  The best way I've found to conquer this brooding nihilism is to distract yourself: find a hobby or something that interests you and pursue it.  It doesn't have to be a world-changing hobby or anything deeply meaningful (after all, isn't everything meaningless in the long run?), but it has to be interesting enough to hold your attention and prevent your mind from wandering back to suicidal ideation by letting you enjoy the simple activity.  Currently, for instance, I'm working my way through a textbook on Symbolic Logic.  I'll probably never use the information I'm learning in it but I find the material fascinating and it's something I enjoy doing.  Take up rock-climbing, or become a poker pro.  Start a D&D club with some friends, or work your way through an author's entire set of books or a director's set of films.  Do whatever you want; this is your life and you might as well spend the remainder of it doing something fun than waste it thinking about the inevitable.

:2cents: at any rate.  :shrug2:


we have the same hobby :o I have a computer program called predilogic that is pretty sweet, since i ran out of textbooks




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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: deCypher]
    #13987492 - 02/18/11 10:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayopavesa

I think suicidal ideation might actually be healthy. If we can't acknowledge that there are circumstances under which we'd prefer not to live then our freedom is a lie.

Sorry... it might be the LSD... and this thread has been with me my entire trip... :lol:


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    #13988448 - 02/19/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

very cool input :happyheart:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Mello Kitty]
    #14215210 - 03/31/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dear Ellen

I read your post and really could use someone to talk to. Things are not good and I have been researching ways to end things and came accross this site. I have never felt so alone, so used, so broken that I even went to my doctor and told her that I really had a problem and what I have been thinking and I got NOTHING. It's so hard for me to get out of bed and I find that I am the most content there. I have the meds to take out a small neighborhood as I have had a terrible accident and almost lost my leg and had 11 surgeries the past 3 years.
You name it I have it Fentanyl, Dilaudid, Morphine, Oxycontin, Oxycodone, Buprens etc etc.  The pain management doctors get you on the meds but never ever tell you what you are going to experience trying to get off of the drugs until you realize one day that you have a problem. Well that day came for me about 2 weeks ago and I wanted to stop everything and deal with what I need to deal with. It's not working for me. I can not deal with this emotional rollercoaster I am on and it is effecting no one but me and that in itself is to much. I think every night about just grabbing a handful and using it as my early retirement plan but it does not happen. The hardest time for me is the day when I have to try and keep it together and do what I do to make a living but now that I am slowly detox from these meds I am so
f--ked up mentally I just don't know what to do. I am so unhappy that I really want to go. Its just having the courage to take things into my own hands and do it. I have been and seen everything I have ever wanted to see and I do not want to grow old and decay mentally and physically. I do want to die.


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: Piaffe]
    #14215467 - 03/31/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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    #14215479 - 03/31/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #14215518 - 03/31/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Kada, sorry mate, you don't get it, and that is awesome for you. But suicide, well at least IME, is not something you think about, it's something you feel, you know on a logical level that it's stupid and wrong, but on an emotional level you feel it is the only way to go on, you don't even think about the people around you, because somehow in that wrapped perspective of the world you have, they aren't really there on any significant emotional level. That's the way I've experienced it, as far as it being the easy way out...I seriously doubt it, have you ever tried harming yourself? It's harder then it looks.

And about doing something you enjoy, well that is depression, you don't enjoy anything, the whole world seems to just not mean anything for you, it's just sort of this gray place and you wonder why the fuck even bother if it's not doing anything for you.





This is so true.
Depression is totally illogical. But when your sitting with a knife across your wrists logic is the farthest thing from your mind.
major depression is horrible. Its one of the worst feelings in the world. Its a feeling of utter hopelessness and despair. You don't care about the pain to your self, to others. Your numb from it all.
I don't think people who don't experience it understand what its like. Its easy to say "just snap out of it" but its not like that at all.
If I could change it in someway I would in a second. I am pretty sure most people would. Drugs help a lot (Ketamine) but its just a temporary patch.
Because when they are gone its worse than before.


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    #14215546 - 03/31/11 03:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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    #14218731 - 04/01/11 02:38 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey, nice to see someone that knows what it's like...

Yeah, I go ballistic when I hear the "Get over it" bullcrap,
or when people say yeah... "I to get depressed, but a song makes me
feel better" :facepalm:, or my personal favorite: "Why are you
depressed?" :lol: dumbest question ever, but at least that shows
some concern, still pisses me off...

IMO there should be a different word for clinical depression,
because you just can't use it to describe both normal sadness
and pathological despair...

I talked to a psychiatrist the other day and he thinks that when
suicidal ideation and actions appear you can talk about psychotic
depression, scared me a bit but it makes sense when you think about it,
he probably just wanted to scare me into staying on my meds though...:lol:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: 13.step]
    #14218935 - 04/01/11 03:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Raoul Duke: We should get some of that.
Dr. Gonzo: Some of what?
Raoul Duke: Extract of pineal. Just eat a big handful and see what happens.
Dr. Gonzo: Shit, that's a good idea. One whiff of that stuff will turn you into something out of a goddamn medical encyclopedia...
[Duke tripping sees Gonzo turn into Satan]
Raoul Duke: Beautiful fucking tits, man!
Dr. Gonzo: Your head will swell up like a watermelon... you'll gain about a hundred pounds in two hours...
Raoul Duke: Great!
Dr. Gonzo: Grow claws... bleeding warts...
Raoul Duke: Yes!
Dr. Gonzo: And then you notice about six huge hairy tits swelling up on your back.
Raoul Duke: Fantastic!
Dr. Gonzo: You'll go blind... your body will turn to wax... they'll have to put you in a wheelbarrow... and when you scream for help, you'll sound like a raccoon.
[returns to normal]
Dr. Gonzo: Man, I'll try just about anything, but I'd never in hell touch a pineal gland. :awecid:


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    #14218938 - 04/01/11 03:53 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. :winning1:


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14462215 - 05/16/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

He didn't commit suicide.... he was suicided by the government.
look deep into his last days, how does everyone in the house not hear the gunshot and why would he do it in the middle of a conversation with his wife, and no they were not fighting..
One of the last things he told friends were that he found some concrete eidence against 9/11, the story he was working on. what journalist kills himself without a note???


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    #14462233 - 05/16/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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    #14462254 - 05/16/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

it was suicide.


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    #14462317 - 05/16/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I can't believe it was self induced. I know he talked about it but there's too many facts missing. Like how his wife's story changed from how it happened.
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    #14462360 - 05/16/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I've yet to hear one convincing reason not to commit suicide: the first-person perspective of the individual, whose awareness of any consequences, if they exist, will be instantly transformed.

[I'm not encouraging anything.]


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    #14462386 - 05/16/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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I can't believe it was self induced. I know he talked about it but there's too many facts missing. Like how his wife's story changed from how it happened.
Just my opinion




if you've read his stuff, interviews and friends opinions then it would be clear he wanted out pretty badly. ralph steadman's first words on hearing the suicide were along the lines of "finally, the bastard did it".


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    #14462427 - 05/16/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if you're gonna kill yourself become a decent artist first


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Re: Suicidal Ideation - Hunter S Thompson [Re: whitedevil1]
    #14462472 - 05/16/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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He didn't commit suicide.... he was suicided by the government.
look deep into his last days, how does everyone in the house not hear the gunshot and why would he do it in the middle of a conversation with his wife, and no they were not fighting..
One of the last things he told friends were that he found some concrete eidence against 9/11, the story he was working on. what journalist kills himself without a note???




This story was made-up as a tribute to gonzo journalism.


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    #14462477 - 05/16/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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He didn't commit suicide.... he was suicided by the government.
look deep into his last days, how does everyone in the house not hear the gunshot and why would he do it in the middle of a conversation with his wife, and no they were not fighting..
One of the last things he told friends were that he found some concrete eidence against 9/11, the story he was working on. what journalist kills himself without a note???




This story was made-up as a tribute to gonzo journalism.



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