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#13982827 - 02/18/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok so these are someones jars that were inoculated on 2/6.. its 12 days later and this is the best looking one.. i know i know the search function whatever but i would like to share and maybe log some of this.. the other jars are doing almost as good but not quite.. i saw the initial signs of life 6 days after inoculation. this is the first time doing wbs (or any successful grow)and at first i didnt think it simmered long enough and that the grain was too dry.. but now its growing.. is this about where they should be? or should they be further along? how long should i expect to wait to spawn these? the plan is, a "mini monotub" for the first grow.. got about 5 lbs of nice weathered leeched soil smelling poo.. i was thinking of mixing some poo with coco coir in a 50/50 ratio because it seems coir supports a better pinset without casing than poo but poo would seem more nutritive in my mind.. is that a good ratio? can i mix in grass from my lawn mower too?! i used to always find cubes growing on shit and grass.. could i use "organic compost"? maybe ill use professor pinheads guide to the perfect BS.. anyone tried it yet? anyone get a good pinset on just poo? wow that sounds all strung out.. i basically just want a decent pin set with the simplest of supplys.. i got shit i can get coir.. and grass.. i just dont wanna end up with one of those monotubs that only puts off like 15 shrooms and looks pathetic im so paranoid on that.. the jar.. its a (twistnseal ziplock) theyre nice and look very legit however im not too happy with how the lid stays on.. you can make air come out if you squeeze em.. but other than that theyre nice... the lid only has like a 8mm hole covered with a band aid.. sticks nice and looks legit! plus im thinking being able to squeeze the jar will be a big plus once its time to shake..
 
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13982968 - 02/18/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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how are you planing on shaking those? they look full?
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i actually did fill them a little too high i think. however they are pretty easy to shake around not colonized and i can squeeze em pretty easy to break them up once they are done.. if i have troubles than ill learn this time.. its my first go at this so thats how they ended up that way... however im pretty good at shaking things and i dont see breakin it up being a problem that i cant find a way around.. im more worried about the fruiting part.. and getting that right.. i know ill eventually figure it out.. but if i could find a tek im comfortable with id feel real good.. im thinking of tryin professor pinheads bulk sub tek.. it looks promising.. so do you think my jars are moving at normal speed? i made some more jars a little differently for all of them to see what works best.. well see how they do.. i was hoping to spawn in under a month.. how much longer you think that jar needs before spawning? before i shake?
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13983111 - 02/18/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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im sure this will work perfect.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: k00laid]
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13983189 - 02/18/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: ok so these are someones jars that were inoculated on 2/6.. its 12 days later and this is the best looking one.. i know i know the search function whatever but i would like to share and maybe log some of this.. the other jars are doing almost as good but not quite.. i saw the initial signs of life 6 days after inoculation. this is the first time doing wbs (or any successful grow)and at first i didnt think it simmered long enough and that the grain was too dry.. but now its growing.. is this about where they should be? or should they be further along? how long should i expect to wait to spawn these? the plan is, a "mini monotub" for the first grow.. got about 5 lbs of nice weathered leeched soil smelling poo.. i was thinking of mixing some poo with coco coir in a 50/50 ratio because it seems coir supports a better pinset without casing than poo but poo would seem more nutritive in my mind.. is that a good ratio? can i mix in grass from my lawn mower too?! i used to always find cubes growing on shit and grass.. could i use "organic compost"? maybe ill use professor pinheads guide to the perfect BS.. anyone tried it yet? anyone get a good pinset on just poo? wow that sounds all strung out.. i basically just want a decent pin set with the simplest of supplys.. i got shit i can get coir.. and grass.. i just dont wanna end up with one of those monotubs that only puts off like 15 shrooms and looks pathetic im so paranoid on that.. the jar.. its a (twistnseal ziplock) theyre nice and look very legit however im not too happy with how the lid stays on.. you can make air come out if you squeeze em.. but other than that theyre nice... the lid only has like a 8mm hole covered with a band aid.. sticks nice and looks legit! plus im thinking being able to squeeze the jar will be a big plus once its time to shake..
  
What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13983270 - 02/18/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I THINK THEY ARE SCR'D OF CONTAMZ!
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What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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yes i deffinately am scared of contams! theres a hole made with a hot standard sized phillips screw driver.. then i put a spot bandaid on it.. i was thinking that would be enough GE? if not ill get the torch out and melt me some more holes! and yeh i been eyeballin your grows and that tek there.. id really like to get a flush like that although i dont have a great isolate yet.. thats synocybins shroomery special right there.. i also got Koh Samaui, and malabar goin just knocked up yesterday.. once i get a good fruit im happy with ill do what you did with the lc clone to agar for the isolated strain.. however can i get just as good a pinset as you get just with more of inconsistancy in shroom size and shape? thats what id suspect the difference would be right? they would just mature and grow at slightly different rates because its multispore.. heres the lid...
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13985063 - 02/18/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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yes i deffinately am scared of contams! theres a hole made with a hot standard sized phillips screw driver.. then i put a spot bandaid on it.. i was thinking that would be enough GE? if not ill get the torch out and melt me some more holes! and yeh i been eyeballin your grows and that tek there.. id really like to get a flush like that although i dont have a great isolate yet.. thats synocybins shroomery special right there.. i also got Koh Samaui, and malabar goin just knocked up yesterday.. once i get a good fruit im happy with ill do what you did with the lc clone to agar for the isolated strain.. however can i get just as good a pinset as you get just with more of inconsistancy in shroom size and shape? thats what id suspect the difference would be right? they would just mature and grow at slightly different rates because its multispore.. heres the lid...

That lid might as well not be giving any air exchange. That Band-aid isn't really providing any air exchange at all, no.
You're gonna need to take it off, and put some micropore tape, or polyfil, in the hole. Ideally, you should have another lid that you do this to, sterilize it in an aluminum foil pouch, and then CARFEULLY in a glovebox, switch the two lids.
I suppose a more risky option would be to take the band-aid off and replace with micropore tape in a glovebox, and then douse the tape with some isopropyl alcohol to sanitize it really well. That may work also.
In either case, if you don't do something, that culture is as good as dead. It's probably not dead right now, but you should assume that there is virtually no gas exchange going on right now.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13985188 - 02/18/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Polyfill ...... Pull it through the hole. Not tightly. You want Gas Exchange; Not suffocation.
YOu can nock throu the poly or drill a second hole; fill it with silicone to use as an injection port.
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ok i got it!! im just gonna wash mo hands and take them all off then cover the whole top of the container with a coffee filter so it doesnt even get near the hole and will serve as a filter. then when i shake ill put bandaids on..
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13985317 - 02/18/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont open the "Jar's" in open air! If you open them they will be contaminated. Use a glove box, flow hood, or let it be.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: Luger0815]
#13985631 - 02/18/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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throw some micropore tape on tghat shit its like 2 bucks at walmart
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My advice is to spend the $10 and get some quart jars. This is a super cheap hobby, no need to skimp. And since this is your first time working with WBS, I wouldn't worry about fruiting so much until you make it there. Also, a coffee filter is a horrible filter for this hobby and like the guy above said removing the band-aid in open air is just asking for problems.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: DZ]
#13987672 - 02/18/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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And don't mix in grass from your mower, it won't accomplish anything. Coir and hpoo @ 50/50 will do great, in your case I would prefer coir/hpoo/verm : 40/40/20.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13987756 - 02/18/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: ok i got it!! im just gonna wash mo hands and take them all off then cover the whole top of the container with a coffee filter so it doesnt even get near the hole and will serve as a filter. then when i shake ill put bandaids on..
Oh man i hope you didn't do anything you said you were gonna do... for starters you should've only had the jars 3/4th full so you hurt yourself right from the start. Second bandaids and coffee filters are a perfect way to collect contams. You should build a glovebox and do your work inside of there as well.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: bbt0009]
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Oh, yea of little faith. 
Yeah, I'm feeling you on the 
Original Poster, you made a passing comment about, "...I know I know, search function blah, blah, blah..." and then you suggest you're going to take the lid off and replace with a f'in coffee filter?

...I guess it needs to be said:
Use the search function, man. 
Search these terms and get to reading:
- Polyfil lids
- Gas exchange vs air exchange
- still-air glove box
- Sterile Technique
- Sterility vs sanitary
That oughta be a good start for now.
Use the search function. Use it again. Live the search function. Love the search function.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13989347 - 02/19/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Coffee filters won't do shit! get some med tape or a filter dic.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13989562 - 02/19/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh, yea ye of little faith. 
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awe hell i thought replacing the lid with a coffee filter was for optimal GE?! HAHA NO! its all good guys you got me all wrong.. i was paranoid of contams so i took some lysol disinfecting wipes that are nice and kinda cloth like and i took the bandaids off in a really clean disinfected area and i put the wipes over the top like this:
  i sure hope im not screwed and surely next time ill do things alot different but i notice a difference already!
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13990814 - 02/19/11 04:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's the most innovative thought I've seen someone have in a long time. 
Regardless, make the lids different next time
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13990836 - 02/19/11 04:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: awe hell i thought replacing the lid with a coffee filter was for optimal GE?! HAHA NO! its all good guys you got me all wrong.. i was paranoid of contams so i took some lysol disinfecting wipes that are nice and kinda cloth like and i took the bandaids off in a really clean disinfected area and i put the wipes over the top like this:
  i sure hope im not screwed and surely next time ill do things alot different but i notice a difference already!
That's worth a try, I suppose.
It may very well not filter fine enough though. We shall see.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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ProfessorPinHead said: That's the most innovative thought I've seen someone have in a long time
I was referring to the thought process here. The gears turning. Not the methods ability to be effective at its given intention,.
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Oh, yea ye of little faith. 
EDIT: Sorry Bro, I couldn't help myself. 
Oh, man. 
Your posts are like an English major's and/or grammarian's worst nightmare. 
This isn't an example of the pot calling the kettle black. It's like a spoonful of pitch pointing out some dust on the bottom of a white rose pedal. 

...all in good fun, Prof.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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No, I was correcting the ye. pronounced yeeeeee. You used yea for ye, he!he!....
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ProfessorPinHead said: No, I was correcting the ye. pronounced yeeeeee. You used yea for ye, he!he!....
Yeah, I know.
My comment was the irony of you correcting a spelling of mine, while a copious amount of posts made by you have untold amounts of misspelled words.
I see them everyday you post. 
Pretty typical of scientists, really. My engineer friends' papers... well, let's just say their specialties lie outside the realm of written English.
It's quite alright. I would never pass judgment upon someone for misspelling a word, using incorrect grammar, punctuation error, etc.
As I'm a philosopher, and therefore have done much, much academic writing, I suppose it would not be unreasonable to hold myself to a higher standard than a scientist, though. 
I'm gonna go read up on your shoulder impingement thread. I wanna learn more about that.
I have about the worst possible shoulders one could have, as all the connective tissue is so loose I can EASILY - and intentionally - slip my humerus right out of socket no problem, and without pain. I'm not sure I can dislocate my shoulder anymore, as all the tissue is so loose. I'm in no rush to find out, though.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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Oh, I kno. I was just being a wize ass.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: skoomo]
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skoomo said: Coffee filters won't do shit! get some med tape or a filter dic.
Why not just pick up some cheap tyvek coveralls from the hardware store?
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[18:25] < > yeah, my neighbor's cat has said the same thing before. Only issue she's having is pinning. She said it's taking forever.... [18:25] <-> thats cause ur neighbor is letting a cat do it [18:26] < > cats bring something to the table, actually [18:26] < > cat milk is a great addition to a casing, she says [18:27] < > the only way to extract the cat milk is by pressing it's claws out and hissing at it while poking it in the rear [18:28] < > just sit a cup underneath and it's almost automatic!
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Why not just pick up some cheap tyvek coveralls from the hardware store?
Because tyvek envelopes are free at the post office
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Why not just pick up some cheap tyvek coveralls from the hardware store?
Because tyvek envelopes are free at the post office 
Yah, that too...Another little nifty trick I've learned: Non-toxic Crayola chalk is a good substitute for Gypsum (Calcium sulfate). Grind down completely (a porcelain napkin holder in a wide, plastic bowl works well) grab a butter knife and add a "tip-full" of it to each jar and mix well BEFORE pc'ing.
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[18:25] < > yeah, my neighbor's cat has said the same thing before. Only issue she's having is pinning. She said it's taking forever.... [18:25] <-> thats cause ur neighbor is letting a cat do it [18:26] < > cats bring something to the table, actually [18:26] < > cat milk is a great addition to a casing, she says [18:27] < > the only way to extract the cat milk is by pressing it's claws out and hissing at it while poking it in the rear [18:28] < > just sit a cup underneath and it's almost automatic!
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Oh, I kno. I was just being a wize ass.
Well, touche, my formidable opponent.
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Why not just pick up some cheap tyvek coveralls from the hardware store?
Because tyvek envelopes are free at the post office 
Yah, that too...Another little nifty trick I've learned: Non-toxic Crayola chalk is a good substitute for Gypsum (Calcium carbonate). Grind down completely (a porcelain napkin holder in a wide, plastic bowl works well) grab a butter knife and add a "tip-full" of it to each jar and mix well BEFORE pc'ing.
Huh... I wonder if that would end up being cheaper.
I can buy approx. 5lb bags for about 5 bucks of pelletized garden gypsum. This kind:

Pretty cheap.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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No way. I buy 5 of these at a time.

They are 36 lbs. for 15 bucks a piece at the farmer supply up the road.
No way crayola can top that.
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ProfessorPinHead said: No way. I buy 5 of these at a time.

They are 36 lbs. for 15 bucks a piece at the farmer supply up the road.
No way crayola can top that.
True. SWIM stopped looking for Gypsum at Lowe's and Home Depot...This was the next best thing and is the exact same basic ingredient (calcium sulfate)
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ProfessorPinHead said: No way. I buy 5 of these at a time.

They are 36 lbs. for 15 bucks a piece at the farmer supply up the road.
No way crayola can top that.
That's my brand! You get yer' own, ya' crazy kids!
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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SWIM is not an acronym we acknowledge here bro.....
Its ok to be on the forum... And besides if the DEA is looking for you they are likely more intelligent than to be tricked by you calling yourself SWIM!!! 
You will find this hillarius facey. -----> 
Share that pic w. anyone you want. I made it at 4 am one night on the shitter ..... 

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ProfessorPinHead said: SWIM is not an acronym we acknowledge here bro.....
Its ok to be on the forum... And besides if the DEA is looking for you they are likely more intelligent than to be tricked by you calling yourself SWIM!!! 
You will find this hillarius facey. -----> 
Share that pic w. anyone you want. I made it at 4 am one night on the shitter ..... 

-prof.
Good work. 
Did you use Photoshop? Or some other editing software?
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13996605 - 02/20/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can't remember. OH, Wait I remember. I went in and saved it as a Picture to my desktop.
From there it was just a matter of inserting a text box over the old one and editing the text in powerpoint. Then I saved it as a pic again and uploaded it to my shroomery account.
I though it was funny as hell at the time.
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ProfessorPinHead said: I can't remember. OH, Wait I remember. I went in and saved it as a Picture to my desktop.
From there it was just a matter of inserting a text box over the old one and editing the text in powerpoint. Then I saved it as a pic again and uploaded it to my shroomery account.
I though it was funny as hell at the time.
Yeah, it was funny.
It think it's funnier thinking about how funny you thought it was all super tired at the time.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13999388 - 02/21/11 02:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LOL! hey they picked up a little but i think they are too dry for some reason.. could they be? how would i know? could i shoot some sterile water in there and wet em a bit? they are totaly dry lookin and shake around easily. i made my newer jars a couple different ways so i can find what works best.. they are a little moister than these.. i think im gonna try and make some kinda re usable filter for the next time i make my jars.. maybe using tyvek but idk yet its gotta look and work pretty legit and not be too fancy ya know... i really like the concept of the pp5 container but i hate these lids. the lids just dont seal..
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13999411 - 02/21/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't shake them anymore. You could try injecting them with a little sterile water. About 1 ml per jar. You don't want standing water in them.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13999725 - 02/21/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: LOL! hey they picked up a little but i think they are too dry for some reason.. could they be? how would i know? could i shoot some sterile water in there and wet em a bit? they are totaly dry lookin and shake around easily. i made my newer jars a couple different ways so i can find what works best.. they are a little moister than these.. i think im gonna try and make some kinda re usable filter for the next time i make my jars.. maybe using tyvek but idk yet its gotta look and work pretty legit and not be too fancy ya know... i really like the concept of the pp5 container but i hate these lids. the lids just dont seal..
Mason jars. They're great. I have 60 quart sized, and a bunch of other sizes, too.
Tyvek should not be used more than two or three times. It both begins to lose it's permeability AND becomes more likely to let in contams.
It's free from the post office, so I highly recommend using it. Considering its low cost to the consumer, I see no reason to not use fresh tyvek each time.
I drill 1/4" hole, stuff it with polyfil, and put 1-2 sheets of tyvek over that. They tyvek pushes against the polyfil, keeping it in place, and also adding another contamination barrier. So long as you have the SEALING RING FACING UP, these are the easiest lids in the world for things like G2G.
However, I think I'll start doing this, only I would make a self-healing injection port from RTV silicone.
I don't understand why people buy injection ports when better ones can be made with RTV silicone. 
Oh, however - I should point out:
RTV silicone will not stick to plastic worth a damn!
So, use metal lids, kids, with the sealing-ring facing up.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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Oh, however - I should point out:
RTV silicone will not stick to plastic worth a damn!
So, use metal lids, kids, with the sealing-ring facing up.

That is because the two surfaces are super smooth. So much so that ...... FSLide = FFrict and the materials slip off of each other.
You can change this outcome if you rub the surface area you are going to make your injection port in with a piece of sandpaper lightly to scratch the surface up.
At this point Fslide ≠Ffriction and the silicone stays in place
Then the RTV sticks like a motherfucker.
You just have to make sure you hit both sides with the sand paper.
I still don't like plastic lids for grains though they suck 
They are good for LC's though if you plan on saving them for a while and don't want to have rust drip in them from the lid.......
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yeh glass mason jars are cool i just dont like the fact that theyre glass cuz im kinda clumsy.. i think i might have something in mind for after im done with these.. i have 8 quarts made right now so when these are done ill start again new.. like i said its my first run at this and im making some mistakes. im sure ill get better as i go.. im thinking the newer jars will have just the right amount of moisture and they all got the ghetto filter on.. oh and i havent been shaking the jars i just know the jars are a little on the loose side and if i wanted i could lay it on its side and all the seeds would go to the side of the jar (which i havent done either) i just leave em alone.. i think maybe i caused it to colonize slow because i shook em after i inoculated.. i know (noob mistake) but i was reading a tek using a LC and i fucked it up.. which my newer jars are different.. did you ever have to trash a jar because it was too dry or will it still colonize just slowly? in my best jar the mycelium looks kinda dry even. it is spreading nice it seems and looks rhizomorphic with tiny intertwining threads crawling through the jar.. its day 15 and this jar is only less than a 1/4 done. im just bein impatient i just counted the days and it feels so much longer than that lol! ill probably wait till last resort on the water im scrrd man... once i have a fully colonized jar i think i might try to make the move to a homemade spawn bag of some sort.. my PC only holds 5 of these.. bags just look easier to me and id rather have 3-4 bags than 12-16 jars.. but ill cross that bridge when i get there i guess..
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Oh, however - I should point out:
RTV silicone will not stick to plastic worth a damn!
So, use metal lids, kids, with the sealing-ring facing up.

That is because the two surfaces are super smooth. So much so that ...... FSLide = FFrict and the materials slip off of each other.
You can change this outcome if you rub the surface area you are going to make your injection port in with a piece of sandpaper lightly to scratch the surface up.
At this point Fslide ≠Ffriction and the silicone stays in place
Then the RTV sticks like a motherfucker.
You just have to make sure you hit both sides with the sand paper.
I still don't like plastic lids for grains though they suck 
They are good for LC's though if you plan on saving them for a while and don't want to have rust drip in them from the lid.......
That didn't work for me. Maybe I wasn't rough enough. 
It seems to me the metal wouldn't be anymore textured than smooth plastic, though, if we consider either surface sans abrasion.
Also, shouldn't the first equation be an inequality? Like, in regards to the plastic and silicone:
depending on what external forces are added into the vector quantities, The force of friction is less than or equal to the force of the slippy-slidey-ness?
I'm not sure, just thinking out loud, trying to figure out how to operationally define the annoying plastic/silicone situation.
I'm thinking the highest value for the friction would only equal the slippy-ness, and they stay in place due to suction. If the force from a syringe needle, for example, is added to the 'system,' you could say, the friction is now less than the slippy-ness, as there is now a pressure in the system, and maybe you could consider the needle pressure part of the slippidey-slip.
I guess the needle should be considered its own value, really. Even so, it seems to me, depending on the temperature of the room, the friction value should vary significantly enough, but not ever be higher than the force of the slip'n'slide.
Man, a friend recently bought me a copy of Understanding Physics by the great, late and powerful Isaac Asimov. That book would come in handy about now.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#14006910 - 02/22/11 11:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you're scared of glass jars because you're clumsy? good luck in this hobby!
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: DZ]
#14012043 - 02/23/11 05:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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DZ said: you're scared of glass jars because you're clumsy? good luck in this hobby!
Yeah, I agree. 
Soda lime/Mason jars are pretty durable. Even so, you gotta have at least some decent hand-eye coordination to do this stuff successfully.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#14012091 - 02/23/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: so i took some lysol disinfecting wipes[...]and i put the wipes over the top
Sorry, I know you're tired of being told what you're doing wrong, but this is also bad. Lysol is nasty to mycelium - the fumes from the wipes or spray can and will cause mutations or possibly wipe out the ability of the mushrooms to fruit at all. Lysol has no place near live mycelial cultures - do not use it any time the fumes can come in contact with them!
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update on this?
-------------------- Synocybin's Penis Envy Grow Log! OUTDOOR SPENT TRAY GROW PICS!! X7X Grow Log Luigi on Shrooms said: Its been 4weeks since i cased what is going on? i used human manure(mine) vermiculite and coco coir
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: Synocybin]
#14064476 - 03/04/11 02:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i have 2 quarts of them that look good! also this is looking really nice right about now!! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14049567/page/2 its the shroomery special as well!! i have this strain alive in culture and agar form right now.. along with a few others ive acquired!! ill have prints before long hopefully!
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
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"Shroomery special?"
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#14064860 - 03/04/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Saturday night Special!
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Short-bus-welcome-back special. 
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
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faceyneck said: Short-bus-welcome-back special. 

Adding a touch of MJ to it ....
Thats the story of my Academic career. I have copyrights on that phrase Facey, you better watch out or I might sue you for all you got!
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lol its a florida mystery strain from synocybin.. i also have koh samaui and malabar going.. i should be spawning malabar later this week.. i plan on using your sub tek PP also ill start a thread when the time comes..
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