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like a virgin!
#13982827 - 02/18/11 01:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok so these are someones jars that were inoculated on 2/6.. its 12 days later and this is the best looking one.. i know i know the search function whatever but i would like to share and maybe log some of this.. the other jars are doing almost as good but not quite.. i saw the initial signs of life 6 days after inoculation. this is the first time doing wbs (or any successful grow)and at first i didnt think it simmered long enough and that the grain was too dry.. but now its growing.. is this about where they should be? or should they be further along? how long should i expect to wait to spawn these? the plan is, a "mini monotub" for the first grow.. got about 5 lbs of nice weathered leeched soil smelling poo.. i was thinking of mixing some poo with coco coir in a 50/50 ratio because it seems coir supports a better pinset without casing than poo but poo would seem more nutritive in my mind.. is that a good ratio? can i mix in grass from my lawn mower too?! i used to always find cubes growing on shit and grass.. could i use "organic compost"? maybe ill use professor pinheads guide to the perfect BS.. anyone tried it yet? anyone get a good pinset on just poo? wow that sounds all strung out.. i basically just want a decent pin set with the simplest of supplys.. i got shit i can get coir.. and grass.. i just dont wanna end up with one of those monotubs that only puts off like 15 shrooms and looks pathetic im so paranoid on that.. the jar.. its a (twistnseal ziplock) theyre nice and look very legit however im not too happy with how the lid stays on.. you can make air come out if you squeeze em.. but other than that theyre nice... the lid only has like a 8mm hole covered with a band aid.. sticks nice and looks legit! plus im thinking being able to squeeze the jar will be a big plus once its time to shake..
 
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13982968 - 02/18/11 02:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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how are you planing on shaking those? they look full?
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i actually did fill them a little too high i think. however they are pretty easy to shake around not colonized and i can squeeze em pretty easy to break them up once they are done.. if i have troubles than ill learn this time.. its my first go at this so thats how they ended up that way... however im pretty good at shaking things and i dont see breakin it up being a problem that i cant find a way around.. im more worried about the fruiting part.. and getting that right.. i know ill eventually figure it out.. but if i could find a tek im comfortable with id feel real good.. im thinking of tryin professor pinheads bulk sub tek.. it looks promising.. so do you think my jars are moving at normal speed? i made some more jars a little differently for all of them to see what works best.. well see how they do.. i was hoping to spawn in under a month.. how much longer you think that jar needs before spawning? before i shake?
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13983111 - 02/18/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: i can squeeze em pretty easy to break them up
im sure this will work perfect.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: k00laid]
#13983130 - 02/18/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13983189 - 02/18/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: ok so these are someones jars that were inoculated on 2/6.. its 12 days later and this is the best looking one.. i know i know the search function whatever but i would like to share and maybe log some of this.. the other jars are doing almost as good but not quite.. i saw the initial signs of life 6 days after inoculation. this is the first time doing wbs (or any successful grow)and at first i didnt think it simmered long enough and that the grain was too dry.. but now its growing.. is this about where they should be? or should they be further along? how long should i expect to wait to spawn these? the plan is, a "mini monotub" for the first grow.. got about 5 lbs of nice weathered leeched soil smelling poo.. i was thinking of mixing some poo with coco coir in a 50/50 ratio because it seems coir supports a better pinset without casing than poo but poo would seem more nutritive in my mind.. is that a good ratio? can i mix in grass from my lawn mower too?! i used to always find cubes growing on shit and grass.. could i use "organic compost"? maybe ill use professor pinheads guide to the perfect BS.. anyone tried it yet? anyone get a good pinset on just poo? wow that sounds all strung out.. i basically just want a decent pin set with the simplest of supplys.. i got shit i can get coir.. and grass.. i just dont wanna end up with one of those monotubs that only puts off like 15 shrooms and looks pathetic im so paranoid on that.. the jar.. its a (twistnseal ziplock) theyre nice and look very legit however im not too happy with how the lid stays on.. you can make air come out if you squeeze em.. but other than that theyre nice... the lid only has like a 8mm hole covered with a band aid.. sticks nice and looks legit! plus im thinking being able to squeeze the jar will be a big plus once its time to shake..
  
What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13983270 - 02/18/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I THINK THEY ARE SCR'D OF CONTAMZ!
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What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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ProfessorPinHead said: I THINK THEY ARE SCR'D OF CONTAMZ
yes i deffinately am scared of contams! theres a hole made with a hot standard sized phillips screw driver.. then i put a spot bandaid on it.. i was thinking that would be enough GE? if not ill get the torch out and melt me some more holes! and yeh i been eyeballin your grows and that tek there.. id really like to get a flush like that although i dont have a great isolate yet.. thats synocybins shroomery special right there.. i also got Koh Samaui, and malabar goin just knocked up yesterday.. once i get a good fruit im happy with ill do what you did with the lc clone to agar for the isolated strain.. however can i get just as good a pinset as you get just with more of inconsistancy in shroom size and shape? thats what id suspect the difference would be right? they would just mature and grow at slightly different rates because its multispore.. heres the lid...
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13985063 - 02/18/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said:
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What are you doing for gas exchange?
If you simply have the lid on there, that's your problem. Air is very important, and very underrated by new growers for some reason.
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ProfessorPinHead said: I THINK THEY ARE SCR'D OF CONTAMZ
yes i deffinately am scared of contams! theres a hole made with a hot standard sized phillips screw driver.. then i put a spot bandaid on it.. i was thinking that would be enough GE? if not ill get the torch out and melt me some more holes! and yeh i been eyeballin your grows and that tek there.. id really like to get a flush like that although i dont have a great isolate yet.. thats synocybins shroomery special right there.. i also got Koh Samaui, and malabar goin just knocked up yesterday.. once i get a good fruit im happy with ill do what you did with the lc clone to agar for the isolated strain.. however can i get just as good a pinset as you get just with more of inconsistancy in shroom size and shape? thats what id suspect the difference would be right? they would just mature and grow at slightly different rates because its multispore.. heres the lid...

That lid might as well not be giving any air exchange. That Band-aid isn't really providing any air exchange at all, no.
You're gonna need to take it off, and put some micropore tape, or polyfil, in the hole. Ideally, you should have another lid that you do this to, sterilize it in an aluminum foil pouch, and then CARFEULLY in a glovebox, switch the two lids.
I suppose a more risky option would be to take the band-aid off and replace with micropore tape in a glovebox, and then douse the tape with some isopropyl alcohol to sanitize it really well. That may work also.
In either case, if you don't do something, that culture is as good as dead. It's probably not dead right now, but you should assume that there is virtually no gas exchange going on right now.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13985188 - 02/18/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Polyfill ...... Pull it through the hole. Not tightly. You want Gas Exchange; Not suffocation.
YOu can nock throu the poly or drill a second hole; fill it with silicone to use as an injection port.
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ok i got it!! im just gonna wash mo hands and take them all off then cover the whole top of the container with a coffee filter so it doesnt even get near the hole and will serve as a filter. then when i shake ill put bandaids on..
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13985317 - 02/18/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont open the "Jar's" in open air! If you open them they will be contaminated. Use a glove box, flow hood, or let it be.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: Luger0815]
#13985631 - 02/18/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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throw some micropore tape on tghat shit its like 2 bucks at walmart
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My advice is to spend the $10 and get some quart jars. This is a super cheap hobby, no need to skimp. And since this is your first time working with WBS, I wouldn't worry about fruiting so much until you make it there. Also, a coffee filter is a horrible filter for this hobby and like the guy above said removing the band-aid in open air is just asking for problems.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: DZ]
#13987672 - 02/18/11 11:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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And don't mix in grass from your mower, it won't accomplish anything. Coir and hpoo @ 50/50 will do great, in your case I would prefer coir/hpoo/verm : 40/40/20.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: wow]
#13987756 - 02/18/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow said: ok i got it!! im just gonna wash mo hands and take them all off then cover the whole top of the container with a coffee filter so it doesnt even get near the hole and will serve as a filter. then when i shake ill put bandaids on..
Oh man i hope you didn't do anything you said you were gonna do... for starters you should've only had the jars 3/4th full so you hurt yourself right from the start. Second bandaids and coffee filters are a perfect way to collect contams. You should build a glovebox and do your work inside of there as well.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: bbt0009]
#13988810 - 02/19/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ProfessorPinHead said:
Oh, yea of little faith. 
Yeah, I'm feeling you on the 
Original Poster, you made a passing comment about, "...I know I know, search function blah, blah, blah..." and then you suggest you're going to take the lid off and replace with a f'in coffee filter?

...I guess it needs to be said:
Use the search function, man. 
Search these terms and get to reading:
- Polyfil lids
- Gas exchange vs air exchange
- still-air glove box
- Sterile Technique
- Sterility vs sanitary
That oughta be a good start for now.
Use the search function. Use it again. Live the search function. Love the search function.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13989347 - 02/19/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Coffee filters won't do shit! get some med tape or a filter dic.
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Re: like a virgin! [Re: faceyneck]
#13989562 - 02/19/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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faceyneck said:
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ProfessorPinHead said:
Oh, yea ye of little faith. 
EDIT: Sorry Bro, I couldn't help myself.
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