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OfflineNekphar
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Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber
    #13982024 - 02/17/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

'(first grow). So I originally had constructed a Poor Mans Pod(PMP), due to the fact that I was under the impression that it was fully automated (no need for fanning or misting). But after a few conversations with experienced cultivators I came to find that the PMP performs better with fanning. Later, I came to find that the PMP is an out dated Fruiting Chamber. I was wondering if I could perhaps drill a bunch of holes in my PMP and create a "PMShotGunFC" so-to-speak. (please don't recommend just making a regular SGFC, it is not favorable for my situation)


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13982048 - 02/17/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes why not?
Can you show us a pic pf your FC.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Luger0815]
    #13982169 - 02/17/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13982232 - 02/17/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

if you have that set up then you can do a SGFC..just drill holes on all 6 sides, 2 inches apart..


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: biologys]
    #13982378 - 02/17/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Can't drill out the bottom. It sits on the floor under a table hidden, with hardly any vertical room for even the light. Stealth is key in my situation for now. Do you think that this will matter? I would assume that drilling out 5 sides is better than nothing...?


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13982408 - 02/17/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

p.s. will drilling numerous holes compromise my humidity? (gotta figure things out as obviously I only have 2 cakes in there now, but soon its gonna be time to load that mo fo up. and I can't be having dry cakes, skinny stems, or meesley caps, I'm a perfectionist)


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13982416 - 02/17/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah its better then nothing..and you'll have to mist, and fan 3-5 times a day as well..


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: biologys]
    #13982451 - 02/18/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Damn. Thats what I was afraid of. I am often overloaded with school, and am not home frequently enough to tend that often.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13982851 - 02/18/11 02:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Nekphar said:
p.s. will drilling numerous holes compromise my humidity?



:nonono:
Fresh air will cause evaporation inside your FC...
which will cause high humidity...
You mist to replace lost moisture...


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: total]
    #13983029 - 02/18/11 02:52 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i was using roughly the same thing. i think the pmp is good, however, you'll need some holes, but not as many as in a SGFC.
(because theres additional fresh air (even water-filtered :grin: ) coming in thru the bottom. if you got enough water down
in the perlite or lava rocks or whatever, the need for misting and fanning is, over all, quite marginal in my experience.
so to put it all together: drill some holes (in the sides and the lid), mind the water in the bottom (you gotta refill some
time, because evaporation), and you'll probably be fine. if you see the shrooms grow thin or with crappy caps you know that
youll need more holes or start to fan/mist. at least that's what my experience was about. however, i'd recommend to elevate
the FC, i think there's some consensus about FCs standing on low ground, but i'm not sure. just does feel better :grin:
good luck and keep posted, ppl intend to help a lot, especially when you got pictures :grin:

oh and a question, u got a heater in the rocks? there's one cable. or is it for the digital display thingy?


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: godisanastronaut]
    #13983490 - 02/18/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks man. Appreciate the thorough answer. This is my first time, and research can only take you so far, so I'll for sure be posing questions to ye wise cultivaters of the divine fungi.:thumbup::smile:


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13985422 - 02/18/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

You need some foil under those cakes.

Also dunk and roll.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13985466 - 02/18/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Nekphar said:
Can't drill out the bottom. It sits on the floor under a table hidden, with hardly any vertical room for even the light. Stealth is key in my situation for now. Do you think that this will matter? I would assume that drilling out 5 sides is better than nothing...?




Drill some Holes in the Bottom.
If not, it is not a SGFC!


Sorry for the following comment's...

I'm not a friend of "hidden devices".

I hope you know what you do!


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: DrRockso]
    #13987151 - 02/18/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You need some foil under those cakes.

Also dunk and roll.




In the PMP page, it says that the cakes can be directly on the hydroton....


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13987561 - 02/18/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Build a SGFC
Lol
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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13987611 - 02/18/11 10:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Nekphar said:
' (please don't recommend just making a regular SGFC, it is not favorable for my situation)


   
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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13987734 - 02/18/11 11:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

And you going the route your going, is not favorable for mushroom growth...:lol:
A drip tray shouldnt raise your chamber by very little at all, and would allow for you to drill holes on the bottom....
Not drilling holes will lead to standing water, which will lead to contams...

If its that big of a deal, cut you 4 pieces of wood, to jack your table that you use to hide your projects up alittle bit...


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: total]
    #13988157 - 02/19/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have bubble wands running 24-7 on an air pump rated for up to 55 gal. Will this still risk contams?  Also, I was wondering if anyone knows if its preferable to have the cakes on lids or on the hydroton?


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: DrRockso]
    #13988163 - 02/19/11 12:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You need some foil under those cakes.




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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Luger0815]
    #13988634 - 02/19/11 03:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i think lids are the prefered way. i had one HUGE cake (3 cakes spawned to more verm with brf, because i had leftovers)
which i, after some time, placed on the perlite without foil and it got too wet and eventually started to smell bad.
therefore i'd go with the lids/foil. and i too want to know why or if stalled water in the perlite/lava rocks is
prone to contamination. i noticed nothing, really. i mean theres nothing in it but perlite and air bubbles. those don't
contam because there's no nutrients in it, i would've thought.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: godisanastronaut]
    #13989401 - 02/19/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would assume it's the air bubbles that keep it from going stagnant. Perlite has such large surface area that it retains plenty of water and air pockets which release and cause small bubbles that areate the water from what I've been reading.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13989408 - 02/19/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

p.s. godisanastronaut... did that cake (smelly one) end up being okay afterwards? I have raised them up onto their lids now btw, thanks for the warning.


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Re: Poor Mans Shotgun Fruiting Chamber [Re: Nekphar]
    #13990020 - 02/19/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no i tossed it later bc there were no fruits anyway. it was broken too (as i said, a large, flat cake) and merely an experiment which failed me :grin:


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