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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979538 - 02/17/11 03:50 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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Hoffman's find was very good for Sandoz and was a successful drug for years in the treatment of mental illness.
He got a tiny bit on his skin and a minor short trip.
The next day he ingested 200 micrograms and took a bike ride home which was the first ever intentional LSD trip.
That is the story put forth yes.
Do you believe everything people tell you? That was Hoffman's story, nobody was really there to validate it.
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Hoffman could have rubbed his eye or something and nobody can really vouch for him. Tabs in a bandana could also leak into the eye which isn't what I'm talking about.
If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979554 - 02/17/11 03:52 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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caphillkid said:
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28064212 said:

Hoffman's find was very good for Sandoz and was a successful drug for years in the treatment of mental illness.
He got a tiny bit on his skin and a minor short trip.
The next day he ingested 200 micrograms and took a bike ride home which was the first ever intentional LSD trip.
That is the story put forth yes.
Do you believe everything people tell you? That was Hoffman's story, nobody was really there to validate it.
There was.
His assistant and the other people he reported the incident to working at Sandoz. READ BOOKS!
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979557 - 02/17/11 03:53 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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28064212 said: No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Prove that his story actually happened exactly as he claimed.
That's right you can't.
I know quite a bit about this field and studied it in college.
Hoffman's claims are probably truth, but there is no way of knowing. People lie all the time for all kinds of reasons.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979566 - 02/17/11 03:54 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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caphillkid said:
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28064212 said: No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Prove that his story actually happened exactly as he claimed.
That's right you can't.
I know quite a bit about this field and studied it in college.
Hoffman's claims are probably truth, but there is no way of knowing. People lie all the time for all kinds of reasons.
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AlmostAsCoolAs said: If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
Did Nick Sand use just an average dose? Maybe a lot is lost when it's absorbed through the skin
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979579 - 02/17/11 03:56 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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only one way to find out
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979585 - 02/17/11 03:57 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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28064212 said:
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Nobody had any negative judgments about psychedelics specifically, no, because knowledge of psychedelics was rare at the time.
That said, there were plenty of negative judgments well-established for users of other psychoactive drugs. I think coffee and cigarettes were the only ones that had escaped stigmatization by that point, unlike cannabis, alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, opium, heroin, etc. There hadn't been any psychedelic hysteria by that point but it would be easy to see how drug-seeking behavior of any kind would be seen as unprofessional.
Consider, also, that the earliest Western records of psychedelics deals with the persecution of mushroom- and peyote-chomping Amerindians as devil-worshipers...
Who knows about Hofmann though, there's really no way to be sure. Even if he did get high by getting "a bit on his finger" it's conceivable that it then traveled from his finger to a mucous membrane such as that found in the mouth, nose, eyes, etc.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979593 - 02/17/11 03:58 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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yeah dont quote my post pussy.
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Another thing I don't really get is how he got effects this intense,
"I perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense, kaleidoscopic play of colors"
Yet it only lasted two hours.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979688 - 02/17/11 04:12 PM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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Yes you can absorb LSD through your skin. . I packaged up a shit ton of purple microdots one time back in the day...5's, 10's, 20's ,hundreds . ... After 30-40 minutes on my assembly line, I knew it was on... ... and No, acid in the eye never worked for me Meth vapors used to wire me the fuck out pretty good too, during the packaging process ... . . .
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AlmostAsCoolAs said: Hoffman could have rubbed his eye or something and nobody can really vouch for him. Tabs in a bandana could also leak into the eye which isn't what I'm talking about.
If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
My thoughts exactly....
Could of rubbed around his eye, touched around his mouth, inhaled a minuscule amount of crystal that was airborne...Who knows.
IMO I don't think LSD can absorb through skin very easily . Sure perhaps it's possible, but I think it would take a large amount placed in the right spot where the skin is relatively thin and blood vessels are close to the surface.
If I put a mere 1mg on the top of my arm I don't think shit would happen...So as long as I didn't breathe (as it wouldn't take much to inhale a wee bit of crystal). But with that said, I'm not willing to try this to find out ...
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13980783 - 02/17/11 07:26 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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28064212 said: Hendrix would put tabs under his bandanna and the acid laced sweat would get in his eyes and he would trip that way.
I believe it can be absorbed through skin, especially if it is crystal.
Probably not true. LSD is far too sensitive to survive that kind of heat/chemical torture. It is destroyed immediately on contact with chlorine, which is probably present at least in trace amounts in sweat.
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
hmmm... that would be interesting. 
well, either way... he made a wicked chemical.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: akira_akuma]
#13980943 - 02/17/11 07:55 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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In one of Chinacat's threads, I can't remember which one, but he talks about how he was addicted to heroin at the time. One of his "Family" friends came to visit and apparently the friend had put crystal all over Chinacat's phone. So when Chinacat went to pick up the phone the next time, he said that the crystal was absorbed through his hand.
Then he tripped balls and was magically cured of his heroin addiction and lived happily ever after in Chinacat land 
Not sure how true it is, I don't see Chinacat as the type to lie, but you never know for sure. Just throwing it out there.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Ballerium]
#13980984 - 02/17/11 08:05 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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The Hendrix - Bandana thing is a myth
Who would waste all their LSD like that
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#13980993 - 02/17/11 08:07 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this, but: LSD hardly passes through the blood brain barrier, so you would have to pretty much stick your hand into some crystal. Even then, the majority of LSD that you would be metabolizing would be absorbed through mucus membranes, such as your eyes, nose, and mouth.
I doubt most people who claim to have tripped through skin absorption.
I have began tripping after handling large amounts of LSD, but I am aware enough to realize that I likely inhaled a small amount, or touched my hands to a sensitive membrane for absorption. When you're doing lots of handling, it's easy to become casual and accidentally consume a tiny amount. Most people don't seem to realize this.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13980998 - 02/17/11 08:08 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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28064212 said: Hendrix would put tabs under his bandanna and the acid laced sweat would get in his eyes and he would trip that way.
I believe it can be absorbed through skin, especially if it is crystal.
That's crap.
Hendrix would put LSD tabs in his mouth when he wanted to trip, like a normal human being.
Contrary to popular belief, Hendrix hated being on acid when he didn't want to. Some of his shows were sabotaged by producers or fans who dosed him unwillingly (putting it in his water, etc.) He would often walk off stage if he found out he had been dosed.
I think all the skin absorption claims are crap.
"Yeah my friend put acid in his pockets running from the cops, now he thinks he's a cup of orange juice"
I've heard that online, in person, and everywhere in between. I've heard it ON acid, and had the state of mind to tell the person she was retarded.
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Yes, DMSO. It can be also be used to soak blotter. I'm not sure what the going solvent is at the moment.
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Yeah, you don't want to accidentally lick a scale without realizing how much is on it. An oversize sheet worth of doses of 100 or 200 microgram hits accidentally ingested is a lot and doesn't weigh much but can keep you out of it for a month.
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