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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #14012619 - 02/23/11 09:50 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Indiana Deputy Attorney General advocates using live ammo on protesters:

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/indiana-dep-ag-use-live-ammunition-against-wisconsin-protesters.php?ref=fpi

Our own little Qaddafi!

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: jimbotron]
    #14013150 - 02/23/11 12:02 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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"[A]gainst thugs physically threatening legally-elected state legislators & governor?" he tweeted back at Weinstein. "You're damn right I advocate deadly force."




More lying from jimbotron.  In light of the Giffords shooting I would think you would be in favor of taking physical threats to politicians seriously.  Or is it only serious for liberal politicians?


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14013752 - 02/23/11 01:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Where do you see the thugs? Is it these people, the ones holding up peace signs?



Or is it some of these teachers? They probably shouldn't be teaching kids if they're contemplating murdering an elected official



And is this any different from the tea party rallies? Well, I suppose there is some; this is a genuine movement of the people fighting for a legitimate cause as opposed to a corporate sponsored "grass-roots" populist movement sitting in wheelchairs payed for by medicaid while ranting against socialist welfare. But I digress.

What the deputy attorney general said was "use live ammunition" in regards to the riot police clearing out protesters at 2 AM. What he advocated is exactly the violence used by Gaddafi (also, wtf is the right way to spell his name? I swear I've seen it 20 different ways) and exactly the violence used at the Kent State massacre. Live ammunition to kill peaceful protesters? This is unconscionable.


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14013773 - 02/23/11 01:58 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

PS

Boosh!

PPS

Fox lies

(I gotta read the dailykos more often)


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14013880 - 02/23/11 02:12 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Where do I see them?  I don't. Yet.  So what does that have to do with him answering a hypothetical?

I knew he got canned.  I don't really give a shit.  There was nothing wrong with that message I quoted.  Not one thing.

I also knew about that poll.  Don't really care.  California and New York have nothing whatsoever to say about what happens in Wisconsin.

Do you know who was against public sector unions?  FDR.


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14013942 - 02/23/11 02:19 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Where do I see them?  I don't. Yet.  So what does that have to do with him answering a hypothetical?

I knew he got canned.  I don't really give a shit.  There was nothing wrong with that message I quoted.  Not one thing.




No, the one you quoted, the justification for his initial statement, was just fine. The problem was the first tweet and you know it.

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I also knew about that poll.  Don't really care.




Is it you or Phred who wanted evidence that Fox lies? Because that was the issue, I don't care if you don't care about the poll  :wizard:


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14013975 - 02/23/11 02:24 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

You liberals think you are such fucking heroes. Since we are on the topic of civility and speech, here's what one of your own said recently. 

"Congressman Michael Capuano (D-MA) is quoted by the Dorchester Reporter as telling union members in Boston that when it comes to the sort of situation that is occurring in Wisconsin it is sometimes necessary to "get out on the streets and get a little bloody."


http://www.examiner.com/legislative-watch-in-national/michael-capuano-on-wisconsin-time-for-the-unions-to-get-a-little-bloody

Imagine that only just recently a Democrat made a stupid violent comment.

Enjoy your corrupt laborer unions, and keep sticking up for them they are just as corrupt as the CEOS.  My grandfather, mother and brother are in the UAW and work for GM and I've heard all the pros and cons of unions through the years.  The average union employee makes more than non-union who will often times barter for stupid shit they don't deserve and help to sell jobs overseas.  Oh no only the owners of the corporation do that most liberals will say, bullshit nope unions aid in that process to. 

The public school system is the biggest liberal union which would explain why we have so many dumb ass people walking around this country brain washed by their liberal masters.

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14014010 - 02/23/11 02:28 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Gastronomicus said:
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Where do I see them?  I don't. Yet.  So what does that have to do with him answering a hypothetical?

I knew he got canned.  I don't really give a shit.  There was nothing wrong with that message I quoted.  Not one thing.




No, the one you quoted, the justification for his initial statement, was just fine. The problem was the first tweet and you know it.




I didn't see it.  I only saw that one.
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Quote:

I also knew about that poll.  Don't really care.




Is it you or Phred who wanted evidence that Fox lies? Because that was the issue, I don't care if you don't care about the poll  :wizard:




They made a mistake.  I don't care that much. I can find similar shit in the NY Times every day.  They run retractions every day.  It is kind of ridiculous to single FoxNews out, though, don't you think, especially considering the shit about Dan Rather?

Why oh why does anybody watch TV for news?  Seriously.  It's packaged for morons.  It has to be given the time constraints.


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: despisedicon]
    #14014097 - 02/23/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not a hero, I would be a hero if I bussed out to Madison though

Anyhoo, here's the full quote:

“I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going. Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary"

The article you linked (if you can call it an article) was almost entirely opinion. Here's the difference between saying "get a little bloody" and "use live ammunition"

Fair notice: If you are weak of constitution don't click the links, there will be blood.

A little bloody

Live ammo (gore)

A little bloody is a metaphor for getting outside and fighting for rights, which is clear from the context of the quote. The congressman talks about not just writing emails but actively protesting. The difference between that and saying use live ammo is that a little bloody means people stay alive.

Now begone


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14014112 - 02/23/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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I didn't see it.  I only saw that one.




:rofl:

Really? The ostrich defense? I can't see it therefore it does not exist. For your edification, dear friend.



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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Icelander]
    #14014120 - 02/23/11 02:45 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Who said I worked at Mcdonalds? I see you still believe in the "American dream", good for you...

I really don't but I do believe in the american nightmare. :lol:






Good, both of you put yourself in a mental prison.  That's a very weak person's way of thinking.  The American Dream doesn't even apply to economic standings, it applies to living your life anyway your want without an outside person telling you otherwise.  If you don't believe in that I would like to meet you so I can feel your limp wrist handshake and hear about your life that you think is SOOOOO bad. 


Please trade in your U.S. citizenship for someone who is willing to swim in a raft to get here or some Arab kid who studies his ass off just to live in a westernized country.

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14014182 - 02/23/11 02:52 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Hey Zappa, good work hijacking this thread.  You do a fantastic job of turning a political discussion into a discussion of your personal politics. No longer are we discussing what's right or wrong or exciting or frightening or simply interesting, but instead what you do or don't care about.

I don't agree that you're the center of the universe and I'd find it fitting if you wouldn't insist making yourself the center of this thread.

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14014205 - 02/23/11 02:54 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Bullshit, I knew you would play the metaphor card.  We don't have those anymore due to Sarah Palin and her cross hair signs, remember that?

It's all or nothing, and this guy is just as stupid as Palin and her signs. 



"Get a little bloody" is a JUST a metaphor?  LOLOLOL 

So why not just say "get out and fight for your rights"? 

"The difference between that and saying use live ammo is that a little bloody means people stay alive."

But.....but.....it's a "little" bloody.  LOLOOLOLOLLOL

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: despisedicon]
    #14014280 - 02/23/11 03:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

:rolleyes:

It's all or nothing? Yes, that's exactly it. The world is black and white. Not that anything palin does is significant, but the crosshairs were a metaphor too. Durp. Both have associated imagery of fighting, a good thing to have when you're seeking to drum up support. But if you are saying that a little bloody means exactly the same thing as use live ammunition then you are failing to grasp portions of the english language. If someone you knew got shot in the head (by live ammo), would you consider describing the injury as "a little bloody?"


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: despisedicon] * 1
    #14014390 - 02/23/11 03:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

and keep sticking up for them they are just as corrupt as the CEOS.
:thumbup:


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Me_Roy]
    #14014445 - 02/23/11 03:23 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey Zappa, good work hijacking this thread.  You do a fantastic job of turning a political discussion into a discussion of your personal politics. No longer are we discussing what's right or wrong or exciting or frightening or simply interesting, but instead what you do or don't care about.

I don't agree that you're the center of the universe and I'd find it fitting if you wouldn't insist making yourself the center of this thread.




What the fuck is this child babbling about?  Anybody?


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14014607 - 02/23/11 03:47 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

He's babbling about how you harp on unrelated things.

I was clearly referring to the "live ammo" tweet, which I think most people find quite disturbing. You start babbling about another one in which he refers to Union assassins or something, who quite simply do not exist, in order to change the subject.

Not that it was really convincing, but it gets annoying.

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: jimbotron]
    #14014688 - 02/23/11 04:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Inexplicably, Cox has now been fired.

I have no idea why the Illinois AG chose to part with his best and wisest employee; perhaps he wanted to spend more time with his family.

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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #14014702 - 02/23/11 04:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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Where do you see the thugs? Is it these people, the ones holding up peace signs?







I count 4  fists, one offer for a prostate exam, one sign talking about killing and only 2 peace signs


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Re: illinois beats wisconsin... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14014758 - 02/23/11 04:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Me_Roy said:
Hey Zappa, good work hijacking this thread.  You do a fantastic job of turning a political discussion into a discussion of your personal politics. No longer are we discussing what's right or wrong or exciting or frightening or simply interesting, but instead what you do or don't care about.

I don't agree that you're the center of the universe and I'd find it fitting if you wouldn't insist making yourself the center of this thread.




What the fuck is this child babbling about?  Anybody?




My point exactly.

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