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curiousgeorge91
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I think i got ripped
#13979693 - 02/17/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know they arent a shroomery sponsor, but i ordered from Sporestore before i knew about this site, and i know (now) that they arent a sponsor and i have read nothing but horror stories about them. So if they come in are they even worth trying? im only asking because most of the bad posta are really old, so maybe they improved, but im leaning towards SCAM. Anyone RECENTLY had success with this shit hole?
And please, everyone refrain from telling me shit that i already know (i.e they suck, only use sponsors etc.), hindsight is always 20/20
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Get some agar.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13979726 - 02/17/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have the opportunity to order from a sponsor, why wouldn't you?
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: FunGuy1492]
#13979771 - 02/17/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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He already said, he didn't know any better at the time.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13979794 - 02/17/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: He already said, he didn't know any better at the time.
Thanks Doc T. Some ppl really struggle with reading on here
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13979820 - 02/17/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: Get some agar. 
Slightly confused by this. Is this to test for spore viability? And what procedure does this entail? BTW Doc T, you have been really helpful to me on all my posts, and i appreciate that!
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Sorry, I was trying to hint, didn't realize you're so new. Yeah, agar lets you test your spores and clean up a culture if needed. RR has a video on it and there's lots of threads and info too.
Your syringes might be ok, who knows? But I wouldn't bet on it.
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you bought water ...toss them ...order new ones .use your last 2cc spores in a lc. if things go south ,you got back up.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13979901 - 02/17/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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My reading comprehension does suck. I apologize.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: penhed]
#13979981 - 02/17/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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penhed said: you bought water ...toss them ...order new ones .use your last 2cc spores in a lc. if things go south ,you got back up.
This doesnt make sense. Last 2cc of what, and if things go south how would this give me back up???
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penhed said: you bought water ...toss them ...order new ones .use your last 2cc spores in a lc. if things go south ,you got back up.
This doesnt make sense. Last 2cc of what, and if things go south how would this give me back up???
Sorry, nvm. I get it now, sounds like a plan.
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2 mL of spore solution is a huge amount, never shoot that much into any jar. A few drops is all you need.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13980157 - 02/17/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the info everyone, and after reading the newbie LC tek im deff. leaning towards that, it seems like a great way to speed up the process!
BTW if anyone wanted to sent me a print out of pitty that would be awesome~ cough cough haha
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LC is always sketchy. In a case like this, it's certain failure. I won't say it again.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13980579 - 02/17/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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if you get a big black blob of spores in your syringe..do your jars to tek..save a little.do your lc. you will be glad you did. i did not ,by any means,say use ???able spores,if that was not clear .sorry. i did some karo with some spore at the start...still have plenty.my brf cakes take 12 -14 days.lc to grains got my master jars for g2g..did good for me.i now have agar..seems easy also ???
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: penhed]
#13980733 - 02/17/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd use that syringe, and if it's bunk see if they'll send you another one. And yeah, if you go for the lc and it's bad you might not be able to tell whether it was the syringe to blame or the lc. Do some jars and an lc and see what happens. Be sure not too use to much honey, I just like to use one small drop without squeezing the bottle at all.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13980750 - 02/17/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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penhed said: if you get a big black blob of spores in your syringe..do your jars to tek..save a little.do your lc. you will be glad you did. i did not ,by any means,say use ???able spores,if that was not clear .sorry. i did some karo with some spore at the start...still have plenty.my brf cakes take 12 -14 days.lc to grains got my master jars for g2g..did good for me.i now have agar..seems easy also ???
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Doc_T said: LC is always sketchy. In a case like this, it's certain failure. I won't say it again.
Why is LC sketchy in this situation? i thought that might be a good testing method, the agar seemed a bit over my head, but idk
On a separate note, i am ordering a syringe from raulfsters or w.e its called and it should be good to go. and i was leaning towards LC'n a couple cc's of that for additional jars. BTW whats the shelf life of an LC?
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It's sketchy because it's not obvious with an lc if you're growing mycelium or a contam, and if it turns out it's bad you won't be able to tell whether it was bad spores, or if you fucked up the lc. I'd shoot the spores directly into brf or grains to know for sure if it's good or not.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Sanguine]
#13980891 - 02/17/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright ill see what to do, maybe test them with agar. just seems like a pain to inject most likely shitty spores into my brf cakes ya know...
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Can you see the spores in the syringe
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curiousgeorge91 said:just seems like a pain to inject most likely shitty spores into my brf cakes ya know...
So then why does it make sense to shoot your likely shitty spores into LC, then use that? Agar is the answer.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13983215 - 02/18/11 05:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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the guy is right. next to cleaning up a print you can select on vigor of growth. win all round.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: virus1824]
#13983442 - 02/18/11 08:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agar would be the best but it's tricky if you're a noob. I'd just make up a pf jar really quick and shoot it up.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Sanguine]
#13983469 - 02/18/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Agar FTW I personally feel that, as a community it is counter productive to always be telling folks that "agar id to to advanced for noobs" or "start using only pf tek" These are the opinions of a small group of people. It sems to meet that, if proper tek is followed agar in pf jars is a real possibility.... BC
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I do agar in pf jars. You need a PC, but otherwise it's not a big deal.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13983512 - 02/18/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I do agar in pf jars. You need a PC, but otherwise it's not a big deal.
Agreed that agar work itself isn't that tricky, but it requires good clean procedure, if you don't want to be fighting dishes full of contams all the time.
Working cleanly is a natural set of habits once you have some experience, but I think that's where new people would get tripped up with agar. As careful and rehearsed as I am, I still often get little bacteria spots or occasional molds/trich.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: andymc]
#13983533 - 02/18/11 08:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I found a bacterial contam on a dish just this morning, it shows up really nice on colored agar.
But I agree with your point. Sterile procedure isn't something I give much thought to any more, I just do it. OTOH, if you do get contams, you get feedback that you need to practice, so it should be basically self-correcting.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13983564 - 02/18/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I found a bacterial contam on a dish just this morning, it shows up really nice on colored agar.
But I agree with your point. Sterile procedure isn't something I give much thought to any more, I just do it. OTOH, if you do get contams, you get feedback that you need to practice, so it should be basically self-correcting.
My point exactly (MPE) .... Doc, your pfjar thread is what lead my thoughts to "why?" With the lids you were talkin bout and a pc n cheapy SAB, anyone should be able to sucsessfully manipulate agar. PF is prolly best for noobs with little other interest in the hobby.... Anyhow my thoughts... BC
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Agreed. It's not as easy as spores into cakes, but it's easier than LC in the long run. So appropriate for a second or third grow, anybody who has experienced at least one successful lifecyle.
Or in a case where somebody gets a bad syringe. Maybe it's time to just jump right in and learn agar first.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Sanguine]
#13983609 - 02/18/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sanguine said: Can you see the spores in the syringe
they didnt come in yet, and from what im reading its likely they wont even come. ill asses the situation when i get them i suppose
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All this use of of jargons and different teks that ive never heard of is making this whole process seem wayyy over my head. I just want to grow some shrooms so i can trip more often and not have to rely on when they are available, im not trying to become a mycologist.
-Should i just cut my losses and quit, or is my goal still attainable within these parameters...?
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Jargon and teks is all about learning the language and the skills. It's like any other hobby, like learning to bake cookies. I can buy a pack of cookies, or I can make cookies at home from scratch.
All depends on what you want. If you just want to eat a cookie, that's cool. But this stuff isn't very hard, and as hobbies go it's cheap and fun.
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boredcertified said: Agar FTW I personally feel that, as a community it is counter productive to always be telling folks that "agar id to to advanced for noobs" or "start using only pf tek" These are the opinions of a small group of people. It sems to meet that, if proper tek is followed agar in pf jars is a real possibility.... BC
I'm not saying agar too advanced, it's just really hard to do it clean if you don't have a good space to do it in or equipment to do it with. I don't know what the OPs skill set is or what equipment he has, but if this was gonna be his first grow I don't know if I'd recommend agar right away, there's a lot of potential for things to go wrong. The first time I did agar it didn't turn out the best. And I don't recommend noobs start with pf tek, my point was that the quickest and easiest way to test the syringe would just be to make up a brf jar.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Sanguine]
#13983681 - 02/18/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LOL at equipment, I use a basic still air box, gloves, and pf jars. 
Edit- agreed about shooting a BRF jar.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Doc_T]
#13983689 - 02/18/11 09:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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bummer...
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curiousgeorge91 said: All this use of of jargons and different teks that ive never heard of is making this whole process seem wayyy over my head. I just want to grow some shrooms so i can trip more often and not have to rely on when they are available, im not trying to become a mycologist.
-Should i just cut my losses and quit, or is my goal still attainable within these parameters...?
Don't quit! I'd just wait to see if the syringe arrives, if it does and there's spores awesome, if not just get another syringe from a vendor and try again.
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: Sanguine]
#13983697 - 02/18/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I guess i will have to make my decision based on the situation when the syringes come.
And well said Doc, that was very reassuring/inspirational haha
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Puppets and trolls. 
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i got ripped off by micro tech, the syringes they sent me were cristal clear. i had the solution viewed under a microscope and the spores were damaged- some scored, some only half their- broken in half per say. how the hell does one damage something as tiny as a spore? i contacted them and they were shocked some one actualy looked at them under a microscope!!! my favorite part was them saying THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of spores are in there syringes- try only 96 in the b+ and only 63 in the keepers creepers syringe! and it was my fault for not using a sponcer, i now use ralphster spores and have had awsome results. fast collonization times and no contams. he also sends you free stuff- because he rocks!
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: jacobensis]
#13983843 - 02/18/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I ordered from spore store and right after I did I saw all the bad comments luckily I only got one syringe so ill let ya'll know how it turns out i'm only going to test it in one jar though. I ordered two more syringes from thehawkseye and they seem pretty legit so far
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Re: I think i got ripped [Re: ZERO420]
#14010559 - 02/22/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ZERO420 said: I ordered from spore store and right after I did I saw all the bad comments luckily I only got one syringe so ill let ya'll know how it turns out i'm only going to test it in one jar though. I ordered two more syringes from thehawkseye and they seem pretty legit so far
I got my sporestore syringes, didnt expect anything and they happen to have some spore-looking black shit in them so im going to test on a couple brf cakes tom. ill let ya know whats up
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At least you got yours and they look good! I told them to cancel my order and to my surprise they did. Just got my syringes from thehawkseye and they look real good. Cant wait to start this thing as soon as my jars come in.(couldn't find wide mouthed jars anywhere round here)
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