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Absorption of LSD through the skin
#13979302 - 02/17/11 03:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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This is one thing I can't find an answer to. Some people say it doesn't work like that, some people claim it has happened to them and then there's Nick Sand who basically painted his arm in LSD + DMSO and felt no effects. I know it could be absorbed through an open wound or cut but this hasn't been the case for a lot of people claiming it happened to them.
So what's the verdict on this one?
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs] 1
#13979314 - 02/17/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i thought skin absorption is how hoffman had his first trip
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs] 1
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#13979338 - 02/17/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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One of my friends was contemplating eating a tab and had it on his finger for a while and started trippin. Hes not one to bullshit, and didnt hendrix put it under his bandana? Or is that a myth too?
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: floydisgod]
#13979349 - 02/17/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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floydisgod said: One of my friends was contemplating eating a tab and had it on his finger for a while and started trippin. Hes not one to bullshit, and didnt hendrix put it under his bandana? Or is that a myth too?
ive also heard about the hendrix/bandanna thing.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Olympus Mons]
#13979353 - 02/17/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i cant say first hand. and i have personally never asked this guy if the story is true. but im pretty sure it is.
one of my better friends has a brother who is like 10-15 years older than he is. hes cool as hell, ive chilled with him on multiple occasions. he used to get liquor and bud for my buddy and i when we were like 13.
anyway, this brother of my friend at one point sold acid, and had some in a dropper in his pocket. it in some way or another got opened and a good amount of it squirted onto his leg, and he ended up sitting in his house all day tripping balls.
this story was related to me by my friend, not his brother. so it isnt directly from who it supposedly happened to, but i dont doubt it. i dont think my buddy would just pull shit out of his ass like that.
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i don't have any real evidence, but i would say it works. someone who has more knowledge in chemistry than me could probably say.
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Also on the thumb print thread, it's mentioned that they feel it before they lick their thumb
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#13979385 - 02/17/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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JesusGoneRogue said: i thought skin absorption is how hoffman had his first trip
That was his claim.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979393 - 02/17/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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are you implying that he's a liar?
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: chooken]
#13979398 - 02/17/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hendrix would put tabs under his bandanna and the acid laced sweat would get in his eyes and he would trip that way.
I believe it can be absorbed through skin, especially if it is crystal.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#13979406 - 02/17/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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JesusGoneRogue said: are you implying that he's a liar?
It's not impossible.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: chooken]
#13979414 - 02/17/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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and in the lsd-crystal to blotter thread, chinacat says that just during the process of laying it youll get very high
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979437 - 02/17/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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caphillkid said:
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JesusGoneRogue said: are you implying that he's a liar?
It's not impossible.
I never really thought about it, but it's not impossible that he somehow ingested it without even noticing. He wasn't super high or anything the first time, and it doesn't take much to get you noticing effects.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: jewunit]
#13979475 - 02/17/11 03:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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or he made up a reasonable story to prevent his colleagues from thinking he was a drugie
"it was an accident..."
edit: spelling
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#13979484 - 02/17/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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JesusGoneRogue said: i thought skin absorption is how hoffman had his first trip
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979486 - 02/17/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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caphillkid said: or he made up a reasonable story to prevent his colleges from thinking he was a drugie
"it was an accident..."
how did he know it was psychoactive like that prior to having tried it?
i think the first time was on accident. after that it was on purpose.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: jewunit]
#13979501 - 02/17/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i really hope caphill is just playing the devils advocate. because otherwise he seems like a pessimistic dick
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Hoffman's find was very good for Sandoz and was a successful drug for years in the treatment of mental illness.
He got a tiny bit on his skin and a minor short trip.
The next day he ingested 200 micrograms and took a bike ride home which was the first ever intentional LSD trip.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: JesusGoneRogue]
#13979527 - 02/17/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979538 - 02/17/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hoffman's find was very good for Sandoz and was a successful drug for years in the treatment of mental illness.
He got a tiny bit on his skin and a minor short trip.
The next day he ingested 200 micrograms and took a bike ride home which was the first ever intentional LSD trip.
That is the story put forth yes.
Do you believe everything people tell you? That was Hoffman's story, nobody was really there to validate it.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13979543 - 02/17/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hoffman could have rubbed his eye or something and nobody can really vouch for him. Tabs in a bandana could also leak into the eye which isn't what I'm talking about.
If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979554 - 02/17/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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caphillkid said:
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Hoffman's find was very good for Sandoz and was a successful drug for years in the treatment of mental illness.
He got a tiny bit on his skin and a minor short trip.
The next day he ingested 200 micrograms and took a bike ride home which was the first ever intentional LSD trip.
That is the story put forth yes.
Do you believe everything people tell you? That was Hoffman's story, nobody was really there to validate it.
There was.
His assistant and the other people he reported the incident to working at Sandoz. READ BOOKS!
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979557 - 02/17/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said: No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Prove that his story actually happened exactly as he claimed.
That's right you can't.
I know quite a bit about this field and studied it in college.
Hoffman's claims are probably truth, but there is no way of knowing. People lie all the time for all kinds of reasons.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979566 - 02/17/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said: No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Prove that his story actually happened exactly as he claimed.
That's right you can't.
I know quite a bit about this field and studied it in college.
Hoffman's claims are probably truth, but there is no way of knowing. People lie all the time for all kinds of reasons.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979579 - 02/17/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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only one way to find out
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13979580 - 02/17/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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AlmostAsCoolAs said: If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
Did Nick Sand use just an average dose? Maybe a lot is lost when it's absorbed through the skin
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979585 - 02/17/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said:
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
No one had any bad judgments about psychedelic drugs back then.
Hoffman has published books.
Educate yourself people.
The information is out there.
Nobody had any negative judgments about psychedelics specifically, no, because knowledge of psychedelics was rare at the time.
That said, there were plenty of negative judgments well-established for users of other psychoactive drugs. I think coffee and cigarettes were the only ones that had escaped stigmatization by that point, unlike cannabis, alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, opium, heroin, etc. There hadn't been any psychedelic hysteria by that point but it would be easy to see how drug-seeking behavior of any kind would be seen as unprofessional.
Consider, also, that the earliest Western records of psychedelics deals with the persecution of mushroom- and peyote-chomping Amerindians as devil-worshipers...
Who knows about Hofmann though, there's really no way to be sure. Even if he did get high by getting "a bit on his finger" it's conceivable that it then traveled from his finger to a mucous membrane such as that found in the mouth, nose, eyes, etc.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: caphillkid]
#13979593 - 02/17/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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yeah dont quote my post pussy.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13979673 - 02/17/11 04:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Another thing I don't really get is how he got effects this intense,
"I perceived an uninterrupted stream of fantastic pictures, extraordinary shapes with intense, kaleidoscopic play of colors"
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13979688 - 02/17/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes you can absorb LSD through your skin. . I packaged up a shit ton of purple microdots one time back in the day...5's, 10's, 20's ,hundreds . ... After 30-40 minutes on my assembly line, I knew it was on... ... and No, acid in the eye never worked for me Meth vapors used to wire me the fuck out pretty good too, during the packaging process ... . . .
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13980671 - 02/17/11 07:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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AlmostAsCoolAs said: Hoffman could have rubbed his eye or something and nobody can really vouch for him. Tabs in a bandana could also leak into the eye which isn't what I'm talking about.
If he did only get it on his fingertips how did he feel effects yet Nick Sand felt absolutely none after covering his arm?
My thoughts exactly....
Could of rubbed around his eye, touched around his mouth, inhaled a minuscule amount of crystal that was airborne...Who knows.
IMO I don't think LSD can absorb through skin very easily . Sure perhaps it's possible, but I think it would take a large amount placed in the right spot where the skin is relatively thin and blood vessels are close to the surface.
If I put a mere 1mg on the top of my arm I don't think shit would happen...So as long as I didn't breathe (as it wouldn't take much to inhale a wee bit of crystal). But with that said, I'm not willing to try this to find out ...
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13980783 - 02/17/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said: Hendrix would put tabs under his bandanna and the acid laced sweat would get in his eyes and he would trip that way.
I believe it can be absorbed through skin, especially if it is crystal.
Probably not true. LSD is far too sensitive to survive that kind of heat/chemical torture. It is destroyed immediately on contact with chlorine, which is probably present at least in trace amounts in sweat.
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Tchan909 said: Somebody around here said a while ago that Hofmann actually intended to find a powerful psychedelic by synthesizing LSD. If this is true it's easy to see why he would feel a need to make an excuse to set his boss and professional peers at ease.
I've heard lots of second- and third-hand stories about LSD absorbing from the skin, but nothing first-hand, so I'm inclined to say the odds of it actually not being possible are pretty high.
hmmm... that would be interesting. 
well, either way... he made a wicked chemical.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: akira_akuma]
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In one of Chinacat's threads, I can't remember which one, but he talks about how he was addicted to heroin at the time. One of his "Family" friends came to visit and apparently the friend had put crystal all over Chinacat's phone. So when Chinacat went to pick up the phone the next time, he said that the crystal was absorbed through his hand.
Then he tripped balls and was magically cured of his heroin addiction and lived happily ever after in Chinacat land 
Not sure how true it is, I don't see Chinacat as the type to lie, but you never know for sure. Just throwing it out there.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Ballerium]
#13980984 - 02/17/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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The Hendrix - Bandana thing is a myth
Who would waste all their LSD like that
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this, but: LSD hardly passes through the blood brain barrier, so you would have to pretty much stick your hand into some crystal. Even then, the majority of LSD that you would be metabolizing would be absorbed through mucus membranes, such as your eyes, nose, and mouth.
I doubt most people who claim to have tripped through skin absorption.
I have began tripping after handling large amounts of LSD, but I am aware enough to realize that I likely inhaled a small amount, or touched my hands to a sensitive membrane for absorption. When you're doing lots of handling, it's easy to become casual and accidentally consume a tiny amount. Most people don't seem to realize this.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
#13980998 - 02/17/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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28064212 said: Hendrix would put tabs under his bandanna and the acid laced sweat would get in his eyes and he would trip that way.
I believe it can be absorbed through skin, especially if it is crystal.
That's crap.
Hendrix would put LSD tabs in his mouth when he wanted to trip, like a normal human being.
Contrary to popular belief, Hendrix hated being on acid when he didn't want to. Some of his shows were sabotaged by producers or fans who dosed him unwillingly (putting it in his water, etc.) He would often walk off stage if he found out he had been dosed.
I think all the skin absorption claims are crap.
"Yeah my friend put acid in his pockets running from the cops, now he thinks he's a cup of orange juice"
I've heard that online, in person, and everywhere in between. I've heard it ON acid, and had the state of mind to tell the person she was retarded.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13981006 - 02/17/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, DMSO. It can be also be used to soak blotter. I'm not sure what the going solvent is at the moment.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: pfxtc]
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I've seen a guy get liquid squirted on his head (he was drunk and unaware. Long story, it was justified). He definitely tripped balls. He was all fucked up and walked home and apparently couldn't figure out how to open his appartment door and ended up kicking it in.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
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AlmostAsCoolAs said: This is one thing I can't find an answer to. Some people say it doesn't work like that, some people claim it has happened to them and then there's Nick Sand who basically painted his arm in LSD + DMSO and felt no effects. I know it could be absorbed through an open wound or cut but this hasn't been the case for a lot of people claiming it happened to them.
So what's the verdict on this one?
Oh, it works alright. And, it works rather quickly, faster than ingesting paper tabs/sugar cubes in my opinion. i've only had it through the skin once and it was only one drop from the vial dropped onto my hand. I watched the liquid seep into my skin and felt the come-on within 15 min. at most; i kid you not. needless to say, it was .
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
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The only experience I have with this was a few years ago when I was cutting up a couple 10 strips for coworkers right before work. No gloves or anything. By the time I got to work I was tripping.
Unexpected and light, but surprisingly pleasant. But I could have touched my eyes, mouth or even something that I ended up eating.
But I definitely did trip.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: I've seen a guy get liquid squirted on his head (he was drunk and unaware. Long story, it was justified). He definitely tripped balls. He was all fucked up and walked home and apparently couldn't figure out how to open his appartment door and ended up kicking it in.
Because everyone just has liquid LSD laying around, and enough to squirt on your hand to boot. Maybe he kicked the door in because he was drunk?
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Ballerium]
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Ballerium said: In one of Chinacat's threads, I can't remember which one, but he talks about how he was addicted to heroin at the time. One of his "Family" friends came to visit and apparently the friend had put crystal all over Chinacat's phone. So when Chinacat went to pick up the phone the next time, he said that the crystal was absorbed through his hand.
Then he tripped balls and was magically cured of his heroin addiction and lived happily ever after in Chinacat land 
Not sure how true it is, I don't see Chinacat as the type to lie, but you never know for sure. Just throwing it out there.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: pfxtc]
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Because everyone just has liquid LSD laying around, and enough to squirt on your hand to boot. Maybe he kicked the door in because he was drunk? 
You'd be surprised how much liquid I used to have laying around. And for the record, it was on his head. When annunankian shows up in this thread, he will verify. He was there too.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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Well silly me, I come from the land of having to pay $10 to even see a piece of paper with what might be LSD on it.
on the other hand
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Raw]
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vinsue said: and No, acid in the eye never worked for me 
Then your liquid was inactive, because LSD in the eye is about just as guaranteed as it is in the mouth. I don't recommend it though because 99% of liquid has ethanol as a solvent. If you ever dropped ethanol in your eye, it wont feel good...for a while 
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Most everything is done with ethanol. I've seen people use tequila and vodka
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: pfxtc]
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pfxtc said: Well silly me, I come from the land of having to pay $10 to even see a piece of paper with what might be LSD on it.
on the other hand 
I feel ya. Same here these days. This was back in the 90's in Nor Cal. Those were the days...
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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OH well shit I wasn't even old enough then
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: I've seen a guy get liquid squirted on his head (he was drunk and unaware. Long story, it was justified). He definitely tripped balls. He was all fucked up and walked home and apparently couldn't figure out how to open his appartment door and ended up kicking it in.
Because everyone just has liquid LSD laying around, and enough to squirt on your hand to boot. Maybe he kicked the door in because he was drunk? 
You'd be surprised how much liquid I used to have laying around. And for the record, it was on his head. When annunankian shows up in this thread, he will verify. He was there too.
If the guy was puddled on top of his head, I imagine he probably rubbed his scalp when he felt liquid being poured onto it....You can probably tell where I'm going with this
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Acaterpillar]
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No I rubbed his scalp for him. I don't remember how much it was but he was drunk, and me rubbing his head in a friendly way didn't make him notice anything odd.
And yes it worked, we all had a good laugh the next day.
And yup back then lsd was very cheap and plentiful.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Acaterpillar]
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nicechrisman said: I've seen a guy get liquid squirted on his head (he was drunk and unaware. Long story, it was justified). He definitely tripped balls. He was all fucked up and walked home and apparently couldn't figure out how to open his appartment door and ended up kicking it in.
Because everyone just has liquid LSD laying around, and enough to squirt on your hand to boot. Maybe he kicked the door in because he was drunk? 
You'd be surprised how much liquid I used to have laying around. And for the record, it was on his head. When annunankian shows up in this thread, he will verify. He was there too.
If the guy was puddled on top of his head, I imagine he probably rubbed his scalp when he felt liquid being poured onto it....You can probably tell where I'm going with this 
Yeah, I dunno. I just saw through the window. My 2 friends were outside with him talking. My one friend smiled at me through the window and walked behind him and dripped a few on his head. Now that I think about it, my friend rubbed it into his scalp after dropping it there. He had a short buzzcut, so very little would have absorbed into his hair. It was pretty damn funny.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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kind of a douche bag move if you ask me.....
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meatcakeman said: kind of a douche bag move if you ask me.....
Like I said, it's a long story. The dude that got dosed was a total douchbag. He showed up at my house uninvited and drunk while me and my friends were each tripping on at least 10 hits. He actually kept asking me for some, and I wouldn't give him any cuz I dont give psychedelics to drunk people. He kept pestering me and being a douche. Then I saw my friend doing this.
Seriously, this guy was being a drunk cocky asshole.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#13981198 - 02/17/11 08:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, LSD absorbs through the skin if large amounts are handled.
I did a skin absorption test once with 20mg of TMA-6 hydrochloride.

I weighed it, put it in the palm of my hand and then rubbed it into my palms until it "vanished", absorbed by the skin fat and pores.
Lo and behold: I tripped out just about as intensely as if I had swallowed it.
Imagine being a sloppy dude handling quantities of DOB without gloves - you could die.
Think about it. A run-of-the-mill phenethylamine. 20mg is a lot of powder. Enough for you to trip balls or worse on most phenethylamines.
I've had Datura affect me through the skin. A low amount of Fly agaric was much more pleasant when I rubbed my skin with the juice of the mushroom, than when eaten, try that in the autumn forest when you'ree not the designated driver. Clench a bunch of tobacco in your fist and you lose the desire to smoke. I experimented with a caffeine ointment, it delivered.
The skin is a reasonably good barrier, but a lot of drugs can pass through it.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: nicechrisman]
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An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And I doubt he learned his lesson anyway, so your friends didn't really do much but stoop down to his level.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 4runner]
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anunnakian said: No I rubbed his scalp for him. I don't remember how much it was but he was drunk, and me rubbing his head in a friendly way didn't make him notice anything odd.
And yes it worked, we all had a good laugh the next day.
And yup back then lsd was very cheap and plentiful.
Interesting. The skin on our scalp is significantly thinner so I could see it being more readily absorbed there. Also because of the hair follicles, the pores on the scalp are likely to be more dilated than other areas.
This thread got me interested, so here's some good reading on dermatoxicology: http://books.google.com/books?id=vgHXTId8rnYC&lpg=PA1360&ots=IVhnjobL89&dq=absorption%20through%20sebaceous%20gland&pg=PA1361#v=onepage&q&f=false
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: meatcakeman]
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meatcakeman said: An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And I doubt he learned his lesson anyway, so your friends didn't really do much but stoop down to his level.
He must have asked me for LSD about 100 times that night. He kept saying "man-hook me up with some stamps"
@annunankian (or however the fuck you spell that) It's awesome having one of my old tripping buddies from back in the day on here. you can back up my crazy ass stories. Those were some wild times my friend.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: 28064212]
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One more for you 28064212
I was watching the discovery channel about the Zulu War, when mention was made of a snuff the Zulu warriors used in battle. They went to a Sangoma who made a version of that snuff for them, they took it to London for analysis and it turned out it consisted mostly of.. weed.
I thought, "naah no way" but it stuck with me. I decided to take some of my great weed, crumbled a little bit, put it on a warm (not hot) spoon to drive off the moisture and proceeded to crush it really fine, adding a bit of glucose to make it less sticky. The idea was to crush all the trichomes and coat the glucose and herbal material with a thin layer of honey oil.
I took a snort and waited a while. Yup, sure enough: I got high off intranasal cannabinoids, which are about the least polar drug you can think of. There was less effect than when smoked, but there was unquestionably effect there.
I didnt feel like beating the shit out of the British, at least not more than usually anyway, but I did verify that yes, the alleged Zulu War Snuff works and you can in fact catch a light buzz off of snorted high quality weed if you process it well.
Zulu War Snuff - Myth confirmed.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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That's not too terribly surprising as I've read that some CBD's are mildly water soluble.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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Wow... that is a weird one.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Acaterpillar]
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That's not too terribly surprising as I've read that some CBD's are mildly water soluble.
If you can take your shirt off, take a tablespoon of cooking oil, rub it on yourself thinly and within an hour all of it (one ounce) is gone, is it so hard to believe that the nasal mucosa can handle fat soluble substances as well?
Discovery Channel is often full of sh*t, but witchdoctors generally aren't, which made it plausible enough for me to put it to the test. Afterwards I made a glass of physiological saline and washed my nose over the sink to remove the plant matter.
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That's not too terribly surprising as I've read that some CBD's are mildly water soluble.
If you can take your shirt off, take a tablespoon of cooking oil, rub it on yourself thinly and within an hour all of it (one ounce) is gone, is it so hard to believe that the nasal mucosa can handle fat soluble substances as well?
Are you trying to prove a point, or are you just trying to get me to rub oil over my exposed body? 
There's always a possibility that they could, but I haven't really seen enough evidence to justify the claim. I think it's more likely that the slightly water soluble CBD's affected you.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: pfxtc]
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Because everyone just has liquid LSD laying around, and enough to squirt on your hand to boot. Maybe he kicked the door in because he was drunk? 
Liquid isn't that rare man.
I haven't had any serious amounts of LSD compared to plenty of folks, but the majority of acid I've had has been liquid.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Acaterpillar]
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I haven't seen a rabid baboon do that, it was worth a shot
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Acaterpillar]
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That's not too terribly surprising as I've read that some CBD's are mildly water soluble.
If you can take your shirt off, take a tablespoon of cooking oil, rub it on yourself thinly and within an hour all of it (one ounce) is gone, is it so hard to believe that the nasal mucosa can handle fat soluble substances as well?
Are you trying to prove a point, or are you just trying to get me to rub oil over my exposed body? 
There's always a possibility that they could, but I haven't really seen enough evidence to justify the claim. I think it's more likely that the slightly water soluble CBD's affected you.
I have to agree with you. A chemical can't absorb through a membrane in any significant amounts unless its in a solution. Take the TMA you used, for example. If you just put it on your hand and left it there, it wouldn't have absorbed at all. It just would have sat on top of your hand. But by rubbing it in, it dissolved into the moisture (or oils) on your skin, and absorbed that way.
Edit: Correction: the chemical can absorb if its a liquid. Solids need to be dissolved in a liquid to absorb through the membrane. Since the THC was contained in plant matter, I'm assuming that it works like a solid, but I might be mistaken.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Yes, LSD absorbs through the skin if large amounts are handled.
I did a skin absorption test once with 20mg of TMA-6 hydrochloride.

I weighed it, put it in the palm of my hand and then rubbed it into my palms until it "vanished", absorbed by the skin fat and pores.
Lo and behold: I tripped out just about as intensely as if I had swallowed it.
Imagine being a sloppy dude handling quantities of DOB without gloves - you could die.
Think about it. A run-of-the-mill phenethylamine. 20mg is a lot of powder. Enough for you to trip balls or worse on most phenethylamines.
I've had Datura affect me through the skin. A low amount of Fly agaric was much more pleasant when I rubbed my skin with the juice of the mushroom, than when eaten, try that in the autumn forest when you'ree not the designated driver. Clench a bunch of tobacco in your fist and you lose the desire to smoke. I experimented with a caffeine ointment, it delivered.
The skin is a reasonably good barrier, but a lot of drugs can pass through it.
I've absorbed 5-MeO-DIPT via epicutaneous administration and felt effects, but I've still heard a lot of arguments on whether its possible and since I don't have any firsthand experience I still don't hold an opinion. A lot of first hand reports say you can, a lot say you can't.
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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One more for you 28064212
I was watching the discovery channel about the Zulu War, when mention was made of a snuff the Zulu warriors used in battle. They went to a Sangoma who made a version of that snuff for them, they took it to London for analysis and it turned out it consisted mostly of.. weed.
I thought, "naah no way" but it stuck with me. I decided to take some of my great weed, crumbled a little bit, put it on a warm (not hot) spoon to drive off the moisture and proceeded to crush it really fine, adding a bit of glucose to make it less sticky. The idea was to crush all the trichomes and coat the glucose and herbal material with a thin layer of honey oil.
I took a snort and waited a while. Yup, sure enough: I got high off intranasal cannabinoids, which are about the least polar drug you can think of. There was less effect than when smoked, but there was unquestionably effect there.
I didnt feel like beating the shit out of the British, at least not more than usually anyway, but I did verify that yes, the alleged Zulu War Snuff works and you can in fact catch a light buzz off of snorted high quality weed if you process it well.
Zulu War Snuff - Myth confirmed.
This is most definitely true. Today I snorted about a bowl's worth of finely ground weed(not completely like powder though) and after 10 or so minutes I started getting feelings far from placebo. Now, my nose is covered with nasal snuff for the most part of the day so I guess I couldn't clean it well enough to get full effects. It honestly felt like the come-up or the comedown of a heavy weed experience. Not the effects I would get from smoking the same amount. And I also noticed it was more of a body high. I still have a question though, wouldn't it be better if the bud was heated first to the point of decarboxylization and then snorted. It DOES get absorbed by the mucous membranes though.
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Thanks to Wiccan for inspiring me to try this !
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Re: Absorption of LSD through the skin [Re: Asante]
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I read this entire thread thinking it was recent.
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One more for you 28064212
I was watching the discovery channel about the Zulu War, when mention was made of a snuff the Zulu warriors used in battle. They went to a Sangoma who made a version of that snuff for them, they took it to London for analysis and it turned out it consisted mostly of.. weed.
I thought, "naah no way" but it stuck with me. I decided to take some of my great weed, crumbled a little bit, put it on a warm (not hot) spoon to drive off the moisture and proceeded to crush it really fine, adding a bit of glucose to make it less sticky. The idea was to crush all the trichomes and coat the glucose and herbal material with a thin layer of honey oil.
I took a snort and waited a while. Yup, sure enough: I got high off intranasal cannabinoids, which are about the least polar drug you can think of. There was less effect than when smoked, but there was unquestionably effect there.
I didnt feel like beating the shit out of the British, at least not more than usually anyway, but I did verify that yes, the alleged Zulu War Snuff works and you can in fact catch a light buzz off of snorted high quality weed if you process it well.
Zulu War Snuff - Myth confirmed.
And this is the most interesting thing ive heard all week.
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