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no pinns on any cakes
    #13977768 - 02/17/11 07:16 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

grrr no pinns on 7 cakes in a row after fully collinization i put them in the terrium then a week later with humidty to in the terrium and 12/12 light never any pinns they just sit there for weeks nothing..

im about to stop growing cubensis cus i never have any luck with pinns

the only time i ever got any pinns was when the cakes where allready pinning in the jars only time any ever grew and only 2 ever did 1 i lost to contams the other i ate it and it was good

Edited by Love11 (02/17/11 07:18 AM)

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13977772 - 02/17/11 07:18 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

whats the temperature? do you fan?


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Tira]
    #13977776 - 02/17/11 07:19 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

its usely between 65-85 and no i dont fan i have a air pump and holes in the side of the terrium

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13977790 - 02/17/11 07:25 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Because you are impatient. You are supposed to let the fully colonized substrate consolidate for a week before you fruit it and even then it can take more than a week afterwards before you see any pins.
If none of your substrates ever pins then you are seriously not paying attention to what your project needs. If the substrate has the right moisture content, you provide enough FAE, RH and light and the ambient temperature is in the right range then your cakes will eventually fruit. There is no way around it. Even in a less than ideal environment it will eventually fruit. Hell, I've seen shamelessly neglected projects fruit.
You are doing something wrong somewhere.


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: German Kahuna]
    #13977808 - 02/17/11 07:35 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

maby its to much light Because they dont get fully darkness at any time because my computer light is still on at night think this threw them off?

Do they need 100% darkness 12 hours?

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13977815 - 02/17/11 07:39 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

No, they don't. in fact they'll fruit just fine in any other on/off combination. The 12/12 schedule has been chosen, because it is known to get the best results, but it doesn't mean that other schedules will not give you any.


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13977816 - 02/17/11 07:39 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

no, they don't need darkness at the fruiting stage. your temperatue seems to be right. but as german kahuna said, you must've been doing something wrong.

you have a hyrgrometer? what's the RH (relative humidity)?

and btw it shouldnt be 85 degrees. it should be maximum 75 degrees. 70 is better. they need a drop in temperature to initiate pinning.


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Tira]
    #13978074 - 02/17/11 09:26 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

no hyrgometer But hey just when i was about to give up hope i looked at the terrium and i seen 1 new pinn and 1 mushroom that was growing from the bottem of the cake kinda blemished because it was smashed under the cake and the tin lid Im hopefull again i hope i start up again and get some more organic brown rice flower..

i should try better temps better hummidty and wait like you said 7 week after fully colinized before i put it in the terrium

hopefull again thanks for all your support :smile:

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13978086 - 02/17/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Air pump isn't good enough you still need to fan to get rid of the stale gases that are sitting in there, fanning moves the air much more than a pump ever could, you need to fan at least 3 or 4 times a day even with a pump. FAE is #1 pinning trigger.


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #13978181 - 02/17/11 10:07 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

question about a shotgun terrium do you drill holes in the bottem of it?

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13978186 - 02/17/11 10:08 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

Quote:

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question about a shotgun terrium do you drill holes in the bottem of it?



yes all six sides


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #13978189 - 02/17/11 10:09 AM (13 years, 16 days ago)

thank you

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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Love11]
    #13979492 - 02/17/11 03:45 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

you should get a hygrometer and make sure that you have 90% RH or more. also you might want to fan 3-5 times a day to prevent CO2 buildup.


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Re: no pinns on any cakes [Re: Tira]
    #13979752 - 02/17/11 04:21 PM (13 years, 16 days ago)

evaporation is a pinning trigger don't mist to much RR says all moisture should be dried after 30 mins, mist a fine mist into air over cakes and dont wet them down or they wont pin


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