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Death is the true reality.
    #13977625 - 02/17/11 05:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Brainstem] * 1
    #13977651 - 02/17/11 06:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I believe the true nature of our existence would be while we exist. But what do you define existence as?

If it's while we are conscious or aware of our existence, then it's obviously while we are alive. If it's the energy which comes and goes, then it's gonna be while that energy is there - be it forever or not


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13977804 - 02/17/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Brainstem said:
If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?



I disagree entirely. You are still caught in the duality between life and death.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: learningtofly]
    #13978844 - 02/17/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I can't be certain that this oblivion exists.

Also can you define 'true'?

Do you mean that death takes up the majority of existence?

If so given the definition you use to interpret the world and life, then I would have to say yes.

However because I cannot yet be certain that oblivion exists, how can I be certain that death makes up a majority of what we know existence to be.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13979214 - 02/17/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Brainstem said:
If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?




Why do you evoke the idea of a "true" reality?  The matter, forces, energy, etc. of this universe exists whether or not you are alive or dead.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Society]
    #13979612 - 02/17/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have experienced this this in particularly powerful mushroom trips. The dark nothing that is reality closing in on my thoughts. I see this a possibility


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Brainstem]
    #13986083 - 02/18/11 06:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Does a drop of the ocean lose its 'wetness' just because it was singled out?


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Ahimsa] * 1
    #13986390 - 02/18/11 07:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

^^^I dont understand what you are trying to say


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Edited by obladi oblada (02/18/11 07:32 PM)


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: obladi oblada]
    #13987152 - 02/18/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

:lol::thumbup:


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Ahimsa]
    #13987534 - 02/18/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Does a drop of the ocean lose its 'wetness' just because it was singled out?



I wouldn't blame it. Gettin' left out there to dry like that...


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Society] * 1
    #13987688 - 02/18/11 11:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Brainstem said:
If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?




Why do you evoke the idea of a "true" reality?  The matter, forces, energy, etc. of this universe exists whether or not you are alive or dead.




how do you know :eek:


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: bigmike7104]
    #13988227 - 02/19/11 01:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Society said:
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Brainstem said:
If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?




Why do you evoke the idea of a "true" reality?  The matter, forces, energy, etc. of this universe exists whether or not you are alive or dead.




how do you know :eek:




Know?  Anybody could be wrong, of course.

Luckily I'm not the only human on the planet.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Ahimsa]
    #13989811 - 02/19/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Does a drop of the ocean lose its 'wetness' just because it was singled out?




That doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that when a human dies it is "singled out" but is still alive or something?

Wouldn't it make more sense to say that a dead human is joining the ocean because a dead human has no ego and is thus "connected" to everything?

Any way I look at that it doesn't make sense.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: learningtofly]
    #13991137 - 02/19/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Ahimsa said:
Does a drop of the ocean lose its 'wetness' just because it was singled out?




That doesn't make any sense to me. Are you saying that when a human dies it is "singled out" but is still alive or something?

Wouldn't it make more sense to say that a dead human is joining the ocean because a dead human has no ego and is thus "connected" to everything?

Any way I look at that it doesn't make sense.



It's just a really bad metaphor. I hate when people try to sound wise and poetic using figurative language and then fail at it.


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: auxiliary]
    #13991390 - 02/19/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

bingo!:thumbup:


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Re: Death is the true reality. [Re: Society]
    #13993354 - 02/20/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Brainstem said:
If life is such a transient thing, occupying only a tiny portion of time, then the non-existence of pre-life and the oblivion that comes after death is the true nature of our existence. Does anyone agree ? If not why ?




Why do you evoke the idea of a "true" reality?  The matter, forces, energy, etc. of this universe exists whether or not you are alive or dead.





bam! this is the only REALITY you can prove what so ever. why not leave it at that. Everything else is just a stream of perceptions your brain puts together in whatever fashion it wants. the only thing that is for certain is that physical reality exists as it exists, that is all we know. how can you say there is a 'true' reality?


of all the realities you have perceived, which one is true? the one without suffering? the one with suffering? where does this circle end??


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