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nino
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What to do in my "case" - literally.
#13977521 - 02/17/11 04:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey!
First of all I'm wondering what to do when I'll harvest my beloved shroomies... here's what's happening..
On the side of the box, there:


are little tiny shroomies-aborts, so what will happen when I'll rehydrate the mycobox for 12 hours again.. wouldn't it be dangereous for this tiny aborts to start to rot or something? :\
Don't know what to do, or am I just overanalyzing and overreacting?
+ I'm providing them with air regulary now, when will they start to grow more in width?
Regards, Valentino
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mill
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13977556 - 02/17/11 04:47 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seeing your box, i dont think those side pinning shrooms are aborts. Aborts usually become grey/black on their caps. For what i see, those are just tiny shrooms. So just wait until they mature before harvest and use gloves to pick them up. I usually remove ALL aborts from the casing before re-hydrating or between flushes in order to avoid rot or contams. Just my 2 cent but i suggest you to wait for a Trusted Cultivator reply 
Have fun.
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: mill]
#13977576 - 02/17/11 05:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Only aborts or tiny regular mushrooms too?
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mill
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13977591 - 02/17/11 05:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good question  Indeed no need to wait for 2 or 3 late tiny regular shrooms to mature when you ever picked up a good flush. I prefer remove those tiny shrooms in order to let the place fully free for the next flush. In your case, as far as you've only got one box, i would wait for them to mature before re-hydrating. Some growers will tell you the contrary, all depends of what you expect.
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13977602 - 02/17/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Those are not aborts. Like the previous poster said aborts will turn dark and generally just look pretty dead.
Whats happening there is just side-pinning. U didn't cover the outside of the container, and since light is a pinning trigger, voila! Next time either line the outside with foil or a black trash bag...or line the insides before making your casing. People claim that using aluminum on the inside is not good as the mycelium can 'eat' into it, but as far as I've experienced this only happens with the disposable oven pans...hasn't happened to me when using actual aluminum foil off a roll.
I've switched to black trash bags myself just cause it was so annoying lining the inside nicely with foil. The bags are alot less of a hassle.
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I suggest getting bigger box to prevent this. Aborts can cause contams, especially in a cramped environment.
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: Alienscience]
#13977731 - 02/17/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, well now it's too late for "prevention". I'll cover the box for the next flush though.
So should I take out those little mushrooms at sides, dip the box in water for 12 hours or simply leave it pressuming there is enough water for 2nd flush.
Suggestions?
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13977735 - 02/17/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Plus I really doubt these shroomies have a chance to come to surface since they're a few centimeters under the ground. Or am I wrong?
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13978057 - 02/17/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Anyone?
Votes accepted from (02/17/11 09:18 AM) to (02/17/11 12:00 PM)
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13978069 - 02/17/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you'll be suprised, i've picked shrooms from the bottom of my substrate that grew and ended up being like 7-8 inches before it finally made its way all the way from the bottom, up the side to finally peak throu the top...
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: biologys]
#13978366 - 02/17/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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they are not aborts.... but you do need to duct tape the sides and bottom to prevent the side pinning...
when i get aborts on my cakes i have just left them and they were just fine. my cakes continue to flush.
this has nothing to do with your "case" lol but are there holes in your bag for gas exchange?
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: 2482]
#13978408 - 02/17/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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2482 said: they are not aborts.... but you do need to duct tape the sides and bottom to prevent the side pinning...
when i get aborts on my cakes i have just left them and they were just fine. my cakes continue to flush.
this has nothing to do with your "case" lol but are there holes in your bag for gas exchange?
Yes I open it every now and then. To provide fresh air.
Still one question in unanswered... should I fill the water after first flush to stay for 12 hours or not. Manual says after every flush I should do that.. but want to hear other opinions... and what to do with those little mushrooms? Just leave them 12 hours in water?
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: nino]
#13978516 - 02/17/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've left tiny pins on my sub. in the past. Sometimes they abort or start bruising, but I've also had them grow just fine after the dunk.
I wish I still had the pic of this tub I had forgotten about(while in dunk-phase). The sub. sat, floating, in a closed tub of water and still fruited a 4th flush. I remembered after about a week of it sitting in the garage. They grew almost hydroponically, lol. I think I composted everything in that tub though, just because I didn't want to risk it back then.
I'm not recommending that this is ever repeated, but it does prove that these little buggers want to grow despite the environment. If I were you, I'd pick everything, side-pins and all... especially if this is your learning experience and only tub ATM. You want to learn the most you can from this hands-on exercise.
Pick everything, Dunk, then get ready for fruiting-phase-2. Once you get more adept to the inner-workings of this hobby you can experiment without feeling like you might screw-things-up on accident.
Good luck to you
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nino
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Re: What to do in my "case" - literally. [Re: LurkingWizards]
#13978647 - 02/17/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LurkingWizards said: I've left tiny pins on my sub. in the past. Sometimes they abort or start bruising, but I've also had them grow just fine after the dunk.
I wish I still had the pic of this tub I had forgotten about(while in dunk-phase). The sub. sat, floating, in a closed tub of water and still fruited a 4th flush. I remembered after about a week of it sitting in the garage. They grew almost hydroponically, lol. I think I composted everything in that tub though, just because I didn't want to risk it back then.
I'm not recommending that this is ever repeated, but it does prove that these little buggers want to grow despite the environment. If I were you, I'd pick everything, side-pins and all... especially if this is your learning experience and only tub ATM. You want to learn the most you can from this hands-on exercise.
Pick everything, Dunk, then get ready for fruiting-phase-2. Once you get more adept to the inner-workings of this hobby you can experiment without feeling like you might screw-things-up on accident.
Good luck to you 
Thanks friend. I'll follow your advice as it is this indeed my first experience with growing Psilocybe Mushrooms whatsoever. I mean... I just bought that set so practicaly I didn't mess around so much... but just looking at them when they're growing, examining them I even talked to them ( lol ). This are magnificent species, beautiful. Seriously, I'm in love with them, almost feel sad for them because I'm going to eat them eventually, hah. 
Thanks to everyone!
Regards, Valentino
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