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First Grow!!
    #13975403 - 02/16/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

About to start my first grow, just waiting for the spores to come in the mail! Once things start coming along i plan on posting lots of pictures :smile: :eek:  i plan on using the PF tek method with also dunking and rolling after every flush, should i dunk before the first flush? and for fruiting i have half gallon canning jars to put the cakes in ontop of 3 inches or so of perlite. I also plan on adding gypsum and flower pollen to the substrate. any advice?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13975409 - 02/16/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

P.S.

Im doing 24 half pint jars :smile:, and im going to try B+, Treasure Coast, and Equador all in this grow to see which does best


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13975415 - 02/16/11 07:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes dunk and roll

also dont use a jar to fruit in...build a SGFC


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: biologys]
    #13975424 - 02/16/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How tall does the SGFC need to be?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13975447 - 02/16/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

tall enough to have 4-5 inches of perlite, and your cakes and a few inches to allow your shrooms to grow..


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: biologys]
    #13975469 - 02/16/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Can anyone direct me to a good SGFC tek?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13975513 - 02/16/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

www.mushroomvideos.com look thru alll the video's, but the one for SGFC is the terrarium-tek on that page.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13975527 - 02/16/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This tek includes a video guide to the PF tek, including instructions on making a SGFC.

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: ScavengerType]
    #13976119 - 02/16/11 09:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks a ton! is this setup going to smell?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13976134 - 02/16/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the only smell you might have is a nice sweet mushroomy smell, but it wont be thru out your house or anything..

now if ya get bacterial infection you could have a not so pleasant smell lol


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: biologys]
    #13976150 - 02/16/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is going to be kept under my bed and im not telling any of my friends about this, if they came into my room would they think something was off? am i just going to have to get an air freshener going at all times?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: biologys]
    #13976152 - 02/16/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek

Dunk and roll initially, only dunk for subsequent flushes


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: Psilocyentist]
    #13976168 - 02/16/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no its not like weed, its not a distinct smell that they would be like OMG YOUR GROWING SHROOMS.. they wont know unless you tell them..


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: biologys]
    #13976391 - 02/16/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The hardest part is keeping the lighting discreet.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: ScavengerType]
    #13976433 - 02/16/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Under your bed is really not a good place to grow mushrooms. Most contaminants float around under 2 feet. If your fruiting chamber is on the ground...you're inviting contaminations. If you need to grow stealthily, you ought to consider a sclerotia producer.

If you're living arrangements (whether it's friends or parents is irrelevant) are not ideal to growing shrooms, you could be seriously putting your friends/family at risk, and ought to reconsider growing. You would be better suited to growing in your closet (though still not ideal).


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: Traikun]
    #13976645 - 02/16/11 10:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If he was trying to build a clean room that would be important information but for fruiting chambers it's not that big of a deal. Using self healing inoculation port lids would lead to a greater reduction in contams than high in the room v. on the floor. Subs are most vulnerable to contamination when they are un-colonized. It's said by RR that 90% of colonization problems happen before spawning/birthing.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
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Re: First Grow!! [Re: ScavengerType]
    #13979575 - 02/17/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have a strange bed so the underneath is actually quite spacious and cut off from anyone being able to see whats under there, my question now is, is it really necessary that i get lights? could i just give it some indirect light for 4 or so hours a day? if i should get lights could someone direct me to a guide on lights?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13979659 - 02/17/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

they will need light. 12h on 12h off.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13979677 - 02/17/11 04:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

6500k CFL 12hours on 12 hours off, don't keep under bed thats just asking for it to fail


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #13984691 - 02/18/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Im curious, how long will my cakes fruit if i dunk them everytime? like how many weeks?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13984701 - 02/18/11 01:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

depends on how many flushes before the contam hits or the myc becomes too weak to produce.....but an overrall estimate.  1 to 2 months


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13995477 - 02/20/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Alright another question, my spores are coming on tuesday, can i start sterilizing jars tomorrow and will they still be sterile for the spores on tuesday correct?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13995526 - 02/20/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Alright another question, my spores are coming on tuesday, can i start sterilizing jars tomorrow and will they still be sterile for the spores on tuesday correct?




It isn't recommended that you let them sit for too long before inoculating...They are due tuesday for delivery but you never know for sure....  The reason you shouldn't let them sit long is that anytime you sterilize your BRF or grain jars you will be killing MOST of the contams, the very few that survive will be "critically injured" to the point where it will take them a long time to recover and get a foothold inside the jars.  You are basically "fixing" the race between contams and your mycelium.  So by the time your mycelium fully colonizes the jar it will be too strong to be taken over by the contams that are recovering......You would probably be fine letting them sit for a day or two but just remember this "race" i described


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13996711 - 02/20/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i think they'll survive a day, im going to do a really good job sterilizing them anyways


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #13996964 - 02/20/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I don't see a problem with letting them sit a day.  But I've heard even the best sterilization won't kill 100% of the contams....


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #13999330 - 02/21/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

one day isn't major, but as someone above mentioned it may take longer for them to arrive in the mail.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: ScavengerType]
    #14002621 - 02/21/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I have the UPS Tracker information so i know its coming tomorrow :smile: i was able to sterilize 15 of them today, they look great so far!


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14002821 - 02/21/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i thought it was recommended to let them sit a few days before innoc. to see if you are sterile??? im pretty sure i read this somewhere, but i could be wrong???


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: curiousgeorge91]
    #14003402 - 02/21/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No, you don't let them sit a few days....Just let the BRF jars sit until cooled inside the pot you sterilized in....This can take a few hours at least...and don't take them out early..


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14007845 - 02/22/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Good luck on your grow!


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: Austinh111]
    #14008947 - 02/22/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The Spores came today :smile:)) i was only able to sterilize 15 jars yesterday so i inoculated 9 with equador spores and 6 with B+ spores, once i sterilize some more jars i can do some treasure coast


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14009262 - 02/22/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Congrats now the fun part starts...the waiting. :ahahaha:


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14012070 - 02/23/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

how long until i will start seeing some small amount of growth do you think?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14012180 - 02/23/11 07:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

3 to 7 days more or less dependind on your inoc skills, how wet the sub is temp and all that, I would say probably no more than 5 days to see some growth no matter what


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14049788 - 03/01/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've got growth! it took almost 7 days because i think my house is a little chilly sometimes, but theres small amounts of growth and im hoping they are just going to flourish soon


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14049959 - 03/01/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

7 days is normal from spores, particularly at lower room temps. sounds like your doing good.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: ScavengerType]
    #14050753 - 03/01/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No signs of any contams yet either :smile: :mushroom2:


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14070738 - 03/05/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

SO HAPPY! i checked on my jars today after a couple days and they are just exploding in growth! almost all visible substrate is colonized in over half the jars! and none of them show any signs of contamination! :smile: :smile: :smile: quick question though, once i see that all the substrate is covered in mycelium, i wait one week and then they are 100% colonized, correct?


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: bradschumann3]
    #14070761 - 03/05/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes wait a week after the whole jar turns white, and your good.


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Re: First Grow!! [Re: esquaredx]
    #14072121 - 03/05/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wait a week AFTER the jar is 100% colonized (which is when 100% of the jar is white)....This is called consolidation.  In short, this allows the mycelium to digest more nutrients and produce more/healthier fruits...


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