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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13975187 - 02/16/11 06:43 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Cultural relativism is surely as old as the first time in human history somebody noticed that people from different cities had different customs. The name, "cultural relativism" is what's new.

Of course, it's not really necessary to veil my entire post in pseudo-mystical hooey to get the point across.




Simply because you cant :shrug:

But thanks for recognizing that simple point

Edited by TeamAmerica (02/16/11 06:44 PM)

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: TeamAmerica] * 1
    #13975203 - 02/16/11 06:45 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Wrong. I'm actually really good at obfuscation, I just prefer to make my points clearly and concisely. :smirk:


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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13975226 - 02/16/11 06:50 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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Wrong. I'm actually really good at obfuscation, I just prefer to make my points clearly and concisely. :smirk:




You prefer to take stabs at me with smalls words...But I dont mind :etbig:

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: TeamAmerica] * 1
    #13975233 - 02/16/11 06:51 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

You don't need a big knife when you're going for the jugular :evil:


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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13975270 - 02/16/11 06:57 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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You don't need a big knife when you're going for the jugular :evil:




You'll need a bigger knife :yoda2:

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #13975296 - 02/16/11 07:03 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

i beleive tha the west virtually came-up with cultural relativism, i mean. Obviously not everyone in the west, but the practice of anthropology arose in the west, but focused on smaller societies that sociology did not really look at,

and cultural relativism arose through anthological practices, so i guess tthat makes it a western creation.
other cultures are just as if not more enthocentric than the U.S>A, its just that if some small country hates us, we dont really feel it. However , if the untied states hates a small country, we go and rape thier land children and recourcees :shrug:

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13975306 - 02/16/11 07:05 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

'Cultural Relativism" was RE discovered and institutionalized through education by Modern western society...

Fixed

Edited by TeamAmerica (02/16/11 07:06 PM)

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13975314 - 02/16/11 07:07 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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i beleive tha the west virtually came-up with cultural relativism, i mean. Obviously not everyone in the west, but the practice of anthropology arose in the west, but focused on smaller societies that sociology did not really look at,

and cultural relativism arose through anthological practices, so i guess tthat makes it a western creation.
other cultures are just as if not more enthocentric than the U.S>A, its just that if some small country hates us, we dont really feel it. However , if the untied states hates a small country, we go and rape thier land children and recourcees :shrug:




On that note,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning_kruger_effect

Hypocrisy runs deep.

"...your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciations of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade, and solemnity, are, to him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy—a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices, more shocking and bloody, than are the people of these United States, at this very hour."

-Frederick Douglass

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: TeamAmerica]
    #13975319 - 02/16/11 07:08 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

idk man, before westerners modernized the world cultural relativism was irrelevent, the world wasnt globalized. Cultures rarely interacted in a basis that we could even compare to today. And just because countries in ancient times traded doesnt mean they reserved thier judgement on the way other societies behave

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13975328 - 02/16/11 07:10 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

caine i understand your post but was that directed at me or somethin?:confused:

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13975336 - 02/16/11 07:11 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

I think my point is proven by the fact that we even call ourselves "westerners."
:shrug:

And no, it wasn't directed at you. I just couldn't figure out a better way to put it.

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Caine]
    #13975344 - 02/16/11 07:13 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

yeah i get ya. But i mean technically speaking, me and my recent ansestery have resided in the "West"

wait wtf.. its a globe. who set's west east north and south? why cant north be wesT?

dunning_korger effect indeed.

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13975349 - 02/16/11 07:14 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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idk man, before westerners modernized the world cultural relativism was irrelevent, the world wasnt globalized. Cultures rarely interacted in a basis that we could even compare to today. And just because countries in ancient times traded doesnt mean they reserved thier judgement on the way other societies behave




I dont know if its fair to say that...But yes the modern day is Def an Economical explosion of trade, that is an ultimate disaster if anything...

Cultures definitely interacted in ancient days...

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Caine]
    #13975367 - 02/16/11 07:16 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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I think my point is proven by the fact that we even call ourselves "westerners."
:shrug:

And no, it wasn't directed at you. I just couldn't figure out a better way to put it.




I find it funny that you hate the US but at the same time take full advantage of the resources and lifestyle of the western world.

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: setb]
    #13975382 - 02/16/11 07:19 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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Caine said:
I think my point is proven by the fact that we even call ourselves "westerners."
:shrug:

And no, it wasn't directed at you. I just couldn't figure out a better way to put it.




I find it funny that you hate the US but at the same time take full advantage of the resources and lifestyle of the western world.




I find that statement as irrelevant as your last

Funny indeed...

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: setb]
    #13975385 - 02/16/11 07:20 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

i dont think he hates the "western world", he is just stating that calling ourselves westerners while trying to take a holistic approach to the world is .. idk, retarted? immature?

were all human beings, i have just as much in common gentically with someone from another race as i do with people in my own race. (if you look at ALL TRAITS, not just the highlighted ones used to promote racism , big lips, freckles, hairy chest etc)

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: setb]
    #13975390 - 02/16/11 07:20 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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I find it funny that you hate the US but at the same time take full advantage of the resources and lifestyle of the western world.




Why wouldn't I take advantage of its resources?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."
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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Caine]
    #13975395 - 02/16/11 07:22 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

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I find it funny that you hate the US but at the same time take full advantage of the resources and lifestyle of the western world.




Why wouldn't I take advantage of its resources?

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."
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You wouldn't because it makes you look like a giant hypocrite.

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: setb]
    #13975418 - 02/16/11 07:27 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Does it?
Think about what you're saying. Taking advantage of a country's resources does not seem like hypocrisy to me, it just seems like more for me and less for everyone else.

You should know that I'm quite egocentric, in the most literal sense of the word. I will never be you, so why should I care that you think I'm a hypocrite? While you're explaining that I'll be leeching some more resources, thank you very much.

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Re: America would be a better place [Re: Caine]
    #13975431 - 02/16/11 07:30 PM (13 years, 17 days ago)

Oh and if that wasn't a good enough response for you, the fact that I've breached the metacognitive barrier proposed by the Dunning-Kruger effect should be enough to argue against my hypocrisy. You're only a hypocrite in this circumstance when you fail to realize it. Why else would I have linked to that? Clearly you missed the point of the article :nonono:

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