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In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers?
    #13975057 - 02/16/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers?
February 16, 2011 - Discover Magazine



If one London art gallery is correct in predicting the future of police surveillance, we may have to redefine the meaning of ‘sting’ operation: one artist’s mock-interview  with a (fake) beekeeping police officer describes how bees can be used to track down growers of illegal plants–and the scary thing is that this art video is only a hop and a skip from reality.

An exhibition called “High Society: Mind-Altering Drugs in History and Culture” at London’s Wellcome Collection features a short film by artist Thomas Thwaites, entitled “Policing Genes,” in which a mock police officer explains the latest in surveillance trickery. Essentially, the police officers tend bee hives, and when the bees return from their daily pollen-hunt, the officers not only check the bees for pollen from such plants as marijuana, but can also use software to decode the dance of the honeybee. And since pollen-laden bees dance to tell the other bees where they found the pollen, decoding the dance would tell the police the exact location of the illegal plants.

As the officer says in the video, using bees allows the police to bypass those pesky little things called warrants–since a bee, after all, doesn’t need one to enter your property. “We use bees because they’re a natural resource,” says the video’s so-called Metropolitan Police Bee Keeper. “Bees can go anywhere they want. They run about, so they can go through windows, into gardens quite freely.”

We already live in a world that uses mice to sniff out bombs, and that can engineer plants to detect TNT, so it’s not such a stretch to envision bees that reveal the locations of illegal plants. And it turns out that Thomas Thwaites’ video was inspired from a meeting with James French, a student of pollen forensics at the University College London’s Centre For Security and Crime Science. As Thwaites told “we make money not art” blogger Regine Debatty:

    "At the moment, by examining a sample of pollen from somebody’s clothes, you could be confident of whether or not, for example, ‘they’ve been in the same woods where the body was found’. This obviously is quite useful if your suspect claims he’s been at home in London answering his emails, but the pollen on his clothes isn’t from London gardens, but from a oak woodland. Equally, a lack of pollen can rule people out of the investigation."

Maybe we’ll see a future in which people are convicted and sent to prison because “the bees told us so.”


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: veggie]
    #13975149 - 02/16/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That would be a down fall for the bees..As they don;t work the cannabis famliy...


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: Brainiac]
    #13975177 - 02/16/11 06:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So they don't need a warrant to sick a dog on someone?


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: Cognitive_Shift] * 1
    #13975219 - 02/16/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In the future growing bud will require copious amounts of poison honey.


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: Wise Toad]
    #13975999 - 02/16/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

save the babies!


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: Konyap]
    #13976166 - 02/16/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

First they abuse the power of a K9's incredibly sensitive nose, next we'll see police-bees?  I sure hope they stop using nature to fight against itself.


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: SuperD]
    #13976190 - 02/16/11 09:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wouldn't they need a warrant or something to search your property, even if it is with bees?


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: The Vapor]
    #13977297 - 02/17/11 01:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well, the supreme court has ruled that a positive indication from a dog is grounds for a seach...it's not to much of a stretch to think that the bee-method, if it is effective, will likely be considered grounds as well


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: veggie]
    #13977383 - 02/17/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

One word... Sensimilla!


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: neur0net]
    #13977422 - 02/17/11 02:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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neur0net said:
well, the supreme court has ruled that a positive indication from a dog is grounds for a seach...it's not to much of a stretch to think that the bee-method, if it is effective, will likely be considered grounds as well




True, but on the other hand, the cops can't cruise the streets with a FLIR looking for grow-ops.


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Re: In Future Surveillance States, Will Honeybees Narc on Pot Growers? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #13977861 - 02/17/11 07:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

This is one of the many starts to the end of the world.


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