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Envix
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#13973757 - 02/16/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm not one to call people out on their bullshit, but this thing my music appreciation teacher said in class was a bit frustrating..
he brought up acid and how the government was experimenting w/ it to see if there were any positive effects.
then he brought up syd barrett (he couldn't even think of the name) and said he died from acid, that he "never came down".. and also that guy from the beach boys who stayed in bed his whole life covered in sand or something
anyway then he said something really stupid, something along the lines of
"the point is, these musicians were taking these drugs to expand their minds and reach a higher state of consciousness -a higher plane of existence and experience to catch new creative ideas from.. but as it turns out, it was concluded that they had none of these these effects and if any, were all negative"
now he didn't even say "in my opinion".. and what was most frustrating about it was after describing, quite descriptively, all the positive effects these drugs COULD have, discredited them all by claiming it was discovered they produced NONE of these effects, and that they only produced negative results in individuals.. giving only 2 examples -both of which being negative
this is supposed to be a music appreciation class. we're supposed to be learning about how certain culture factors had an impact on music, not how they ruined people's personal lives
IDK it just pissed me off. and i'm kind of mad at myself for not saying anything about it..
i know this type of thing happens all the time in schools but this guy seems like a pretty open minded person, has traveled the world playing all sorts of music all across the globe w/ people and even famous musicians etc.. it just seems odd that a seemingly well-rounded person would say such a thing so bluntly
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Edited by Envix (02/16/11 01:59 PM)
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973770 - 02/16/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ignorance is
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973772 - 02/16/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe he wanted to see if anyone in his class was smart enough to speak up on the matter.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: KingSpade]
#13973788 - 02/16/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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KingSpade said: Maybe he wanted to see if anyone in his class was smart enough to speak up on the matter.
yeah this thought had crossed my mind when he said it.. that would be awesome if it were the case. i wish i couldve thought of something to say to break the ice
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973794 - 02/16/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Envix said:
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KingSpade said: Maybe he wanted to see if anyone in his class was smart enough to speak up on the matter.
yeah this thought had crossed my mind when he said it.. that would be awesome if it were the case. i wish i couldve thought of something to say to break the ice
Shoulda said "Well at least they didnt turn into orange juice"
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: The_Ghost]
#13973799 - 02/16/11 01:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973805 - 02/16/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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music is fake
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Royksopp]
#13973807 - 02/16/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Royksopp said: music is fake
So are drugs.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: The_Ghost]
#13973809 - 02/16/11 01:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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as is reality
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973878 - 02/16/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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See I think drugs have done some good things for us, I really do, and if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor: go home tonight and take all your albums, all your tapes, and all your cds and burn 'em. 'cause you know the musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years.... rrrrrrrrreal f**kin high on drugs.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13973911 - 02/16/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Envix said: as is reality 
If reality isn't real, then what do we call it?
Fakality?
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Thats why generalized school in well.. general. Sucks. All the people who go think that they are learning the "truth".
People just because you are being taught something, doesnt mean its actually true.
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said:
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Envix said: as is reality 
If reality isn't real, then what do we call it?
Fakality? 
i like how that sounds
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Royksopp]
#13974173 - 02/16/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahaha, fakality.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13974200 - 02/16/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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WHen I was a sophomore in high school my english teacher said that it's stupid for people to drink when they're depressed because alcohol is a depressent so it would only make them more depressed. As if the fact that it's a depressent refers to the mood that it puts the user in. Why the fuck would people do a drug that inevitably makes you depressed?
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Sheekle]
#13974214 - 02/16/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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nigga please
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Sheekle] 1
#13974257 - 02/16/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: dshow]
#13974269 - 02/16/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol wtf dshow
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: akira_akuma]
#13974288 - 02/16/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's hard to take a music appreciation class seriously when a teacher says something like that - It's no coincidence that a lot of great fucking music was made under the influence of a lot of great fucking drugs. Not to say that drugs make you good at music and/or are entirely responsible for your talent - but it's undeniable that drugs take you to a different place, wouldn't the music come from this different place as well? I'd like to know if he just entirely denies that some music has come from these different depths or he just doesn't listen to that garbage, as a lot of these types seem to live in that sort of fairy world of smelt farts and turtle neck sweaters.
I've had this type before when I was in school and had music courses - utterly unreliable. I found myself losing complete interest in the class due to the stupid mouthpiece that was teaching it to me. I failed most music classes I took in school besides a few with genuine teachers and my whole life is music. You need to learn music and love it. That's a different rant though.
Fuck this guy. If he feels like he should discuss drugs in a music appreciation class then it should be a class discussion as he is wasting all of your time/money. There are two personalities - people who can brush this off "Fuck that guy, he's a douche. Oh well." and people who need to say something "Fuck you, guy, you're a douche". Just do what you think is right.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: gzuf]
#13974317 - 02/16/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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you should of stood up yelled: "ALL negative!?!?!" then hit him with the old bill hicks line about going home and burning all your records and CDs
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envix you shoulda sat that teacher down and given him or lesson or two, i definitely would of said something. Maybe because im in cali, but telling a teacher hear ive taken acid doesnt seem like that big of a deal
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: realfuzzhead]
#13974409 - 02/16/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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realfuzzhead said: envix you shoulda sat that teacher down and given him or lesson or two, i definitely would of said something. Maybe because im in cali, but telling a teacher hear ive taken acid doesnt seem like that big of a deal
Yeah I would have definitely said something and proven him wrong by giving myself as an example and discrediting any over exaggeration or myth that he proposed with facts...
He obviously has never tried it so he has no room to talk.
and even if he has, his experience would be his and his alone, who's to say anybody else that has even taken it has never gotten any good out of it at all...
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13974458 - 02/16/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Senor_Doobie]
#13974668 - 02/16/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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well we're still only on the Renaissance era he kinda just threw it in as a side for this class
i'm not gonna judge this guy just cause he said something stupid maybe he'll expand on the subject when we get into 20th century music and the 60s era..
i'll try to bring it up then and maybe we can have a fun debate about it
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix] 1
#13974689 - 02/16/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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haha little does he know he is facing a shroomery regular!
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Envix]
#13975763 - 02/16/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What a prick. There are definite, possible side effects from LSD use, but there is no reason to overstate the case with this bullshit. He's just going to ruin his credibility. If he says shit like that again, ask him to cite sources.
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: Learyfan]
#13975790 - 02/16/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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says "dose the fucker and fuck his wife!"
says "chill out man"
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Re: Teachers that say stupid things [Re: realfuzzhead]
#13975919 - 02/16/11 08:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Slip a couple of raindrops in his coffee 
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