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I Roll Balls
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What does LSD really do the brain?
#13971896 - 02/16/11 01:55 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have been wanting to try acid for quite some time now. I have heard that now days it's really all just bunk stuff floating around but on a couple of occasions I have been offered good LSD. The reason I am skeptical about trying it is the numerous stories I have heard from people. I have heard people trying it just once and then having HPPD for 11 years. I have also heard people say they've tried it once and it was the best choice they ever made and changed their outlook on life permanently (I.E Steve Jobs). That is why I have been hesitant to try it because it seems very Russian roulette. I have had good experience with mushrooms on low and high doses and LOTS of experience with weed and ecstasy so I think I would be able to handle it pretty good. I still just don't like the idea of my brain being changed permanently, whether for the better or for not. It just seems too risky. Does anyone have any studies showing what LSD really does to the brain? What causes people to have HPPD and stuff for the rest of their lives? Is it just genetic?
Edited by I Roll Balls (02/16/11 01:56 AM)
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: I Roll Balls]
#13971925 - 02/16/11 02:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Can't really answer your questions, but if you've had no problems with mushrooms, E and weed - then you should be fine
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: chooken]
#13971935 - 02/16/11 02:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds about right, should be all good mate.
A lot of people fine LSD an easier trip than mushrooms so if you've tried them abit everything is cool and you should have some idea of what to expect from the cid.
Happy trippen!!
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: jimmystubs]
#13971948 - 02/16/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: I Roll Balls]
#13971955 - 02/16/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Who knows I personally think it supercharges our brain to a higher potential than a sober state.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: deviance234]
#13972078 - 02/16/11 03:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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and it makes you invincible & invisible.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Xog]
#13972089 - 02/16/11 03:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Most of the stuff you've heard from your friends are probably made up bullshit stories. Also, people claim HPPD is a horrible thing. To be honest, I enjoy its presence, and it's actually hard to notice it. In fact, I only notice it when I haven't slept for 18+ hours. I only notice VERY VERY slight morphing of things in my peripheral vision, nothing that I'm directly looking at.
Oh and you can get HPPD from mushrooms as well as acid. So enjoy.
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Edited by Xog (02/16/11 03:38 AM)
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My mind is altered from lsd, I see it as a good thing, probably not the best thing I've ever done, but it's all good. I have a much greater sense of value and appreciation for everything. Ever since I've done it, I've become more outgoing, friendly, confident, and I think a lot more about everything. I feel like ever since I took it, I've removed a mask that people use to control me, it's a bit difficult to explain.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: ANIM0SITY]
#13972196 - 02/16/11 05:18 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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fuck it, drop the acid son, dooo itttttt!
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: LSDilocybin]
#13972421 - 02/16/11 07:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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personally, i really liked this article. if you want it simplified for you, go to the pharmacology boards, i'm sure they could give you a nice watered down version of this.
http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/pharmacology/pharmacology_article2.shtml
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: dlafunk]
#13972433 - 02/16/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I enjoyed acid immensely. I only have short freaks outs but everything feels so beautiful and intense and alive and I enjoy living and breathing and just being so much on it that the bad part never lasts long (come ups sometimes sneaks up on me and that part takes me off guard!)
Yeah there are people who have bad trips but I really feel the majority of people who do acid have a really good time.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: CrackedAlarum]
#13972719 - 02/16/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It is a partial agonist to the 5-HT2A receptors-- primarily in the raphe nucleus.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#13972743 - 02/16/11 09:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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LSD is safer than most prescription drugs and does not harm the brain or body. Period. The rest is up to you: in the right set and setting, this is one of the most powerful medicines in the world for psychological healing.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Jabbawaya]
#13972844 - 02/16/11 09:54 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's actually quite simple what LSD and other psychedelics do to the brain. The brain is basically a computer, and when you take a psychedelic drug some of the routing and processing circuitry gets stuck on. What you are really seeing (at normal doses anyway) are projections of mathematical errors such as division by 0, 1+ theta error, and operations involving imaginary numbers- countless numbers of these errors. The error is then processed as part of the physically sensed reality creating the beautiful patterns that are seen.
Beyond this, if your brain gets too many errors it will crash and reboot as most computers will. This experience is called by most ego-death. The mind then deprived of the sensory input from the "machine" of the brain than turns inward toward the source of consciousness. At this point one ventures from the physical mechanics to the metaphysical construct of reality itself.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#13974026 - 02/16/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Eywa_devotee said: It's actually quite simple what LSD and other psychedelics do to the brain. The brain is basically a computer, and when you take a psychedelic drug some of the routing and processing circuitry gets stuck on. What you are really seeing (at normal doses anyway) are projections of mathematical errors such as division by 0, 1+ theta error, and operations involving imaginary numbers- countless numbers of these errors. The error is then processed as part of the physically sensed reality creating the beautiful patterns that are seen.
Beyond this, if your brain gets too many errors it will crash and reboot as most computers will. This experience is called by most ego-death. The mind then deprived of the sensory input from the "machine" of the brain than turns inward toward the source of consciousness. At this point one ventures from the physical mechanics to the metaphysical construct of reality itself.
Have you got a source or somewhere I could read more about this?
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Eywa_devotee]
#13974079 - 02/16/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Im taking a physiological psychology course at the moments and I feel like I could answer this question the way academics do but that would not be the answer you were looking for at all. The real truth is we don't know how the experience is formed from the physiological processes we see being altered. People will tell you all kinds of things like it removes the filter of information and opens the floodgates allowing sensory overload. Or some will just tell you the technical process like "LSD when introduced sub-lingually acts as a metabrotropic agonist for the 5H2A receptor sites."
Though if you ask someone in any neuro-field they will pretend to know; but really we still have no idea how the conscious experience is derived from the functions of the brain, much less how LSD alters that consciousness.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: chooken]
#13974084 - 02/16/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow. You guys got me really excited to try it now! Is it similar to shrooms though? Because I really don't like shrooms, at least for the first half all it feels like is just pure confusion. I don't see how anyone can really get "high" at least on the peak of shrooms.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: I Roll Balls]
#13974142 - 02/16/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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People who express that sort of disdain for the shroom experience typically have no problems with LSD. Way less jumble in the head, more ability to move around (more energy) etc. I personally like shrooms better but to each his own. IMO Shrooms are more spiritual and LSD more intellectual.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: I Roll Balls]
#13974147 - 02/16/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I Roll Balls said: Wow. You guys got me really excited to try it now! Is it similar to shrooms though? Because I really don't like shrooms, at least for the first half all it feels like is just pure confusion. I don't see how anyone can really get "high" at least on the peak of shrooms.
It's similar - but less confusing and more energetic
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: chooken]
#13974702 - 02/16/11 04:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What he said^^
And just one thing to add to my reply: When you're feeling completely connected to everything in the universe and laughing your ass off while staring at a fractal pattern that is constantly changing and made of every color we know you realize how futile our attempts to explain how the experience happens really are.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: NlightNme]
#13974757 - 02/16/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you've had great experiences on high doses of mushrooms, safe to say that your tentative first step into the LSD experience will be nothing short of fabulous.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Xog]
#13975045 - 02/16/11 06:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Xog said: Most of the stuff you've heard from your friends are probably made up bullshit stories. Also, people claim HPPD is a horrible thing. To be honest, I enjoy its presence, and it's actually hard to notice it. In fact, I only notice it when I haven't slept for 18+ hours. I only notice VERY VERY slight morphing of things in my peripheral vision, nothing that I'm directly looking at.
Oh and you can get HPPD from mushrooms as well as acid. So enjoy.
If you don't even notice it you probably don't have it, everyone has minor visual distortions... even people who have never done psychedelics.
I have very noticable visual distortions across my entire field of vision morning till night every day... it can get really bad when I'm stressed or havn't slept but it is always there and it is always very noticable for me. I don't necessarily mind it... but sometimes the visual distortions can get a little annoying and I wish I could see things clearly again. Everything I look at appears to have a colored transparent coating over it, objects morph, ect. I've had my eyes examined and I have 20/20 vision... but something in the way I perceive changed and even though my vision is still technically great, everything always looks unreal to me.
Now again, I don't mind it... and i've tripped 100+ times before I noticed symptoms. I just think people have the right to know that you CAN have very noticable long lasting or permanant perceptual distortions after using these drugs.
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Re: What does LSD really do the brain? [Re: Subconscious]
#13975293 - 02/16/11 07:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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there's only one way to find out, chances are you'll be fine on LSD.
(p.s. a low dose isn't that gnarly)
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