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Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! * 1
    #13971283 - 02/15/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So I'm interested in trying shrooms for the first time but I want to learn about what might happen and stuff before I go for it. I haven't been able to find information on a couple of things so I have some questions for anyone that has answers :smile:

I have a relaxing place to try it (empty house) and a friend that will look after me (she will not be tripping though...possibly drunk but no drugs). The only other drug I've done is weed. So here goes:

1) Does weight affect how many shrooms I should take? I'm thinking about taking a gram since I want to start with a low dose but would I need more if I'm around 30lbs overweight?

2) Is tripping during the day better (less paranoia etc)? I'm a bit nervous about tripping at night because I get paranoid easily (long back story) and I'm a bit prone to depression. I would imagine it would be less frightening to trip during the day?

3) Recommend smoking weed during/before? I'm not sure about this one either because somethings weed makes things really serious and paranoid.

4) Should I try it for the first time alone or with friend mentioned above?

5) I really want to try shrooms but I know I'm prone to depression so any advice or personal stories about this will be appreciated! I am not depressed/suicidal right now, however, I've had a history with it and I have certain 'moments' of depression but usually I can control them. I've read shrooms (and other drugs) can bring out buried psychological illnesses so I want to be cautious.

Any other tips/advice welcome
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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: mapochi] * 1
    #13971356 - 02/15/11 11:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hey man, welcome to the Shroomery.

1. I believe it would affect it a little, but I doubt it would make a huge difference. I'd start with at least a 16th. I don't know if you'd even feel it with a gram.

2. I personally like tripping at night time better, it gives a more peaceful mood in my opinion. I also enjoy the night time visuals aswell because it allows your imagination to work a bit more than with day.

3. If it makes you paranoid then I would probably avoid it. I have no issue with paranoia and weed so personally I smoke every time I trip, I don't think i've ever tripped once without having smoked in fact. I enjoy it at as sort of atmosphere setter.

4. My first time I took 2 grams, smoked weed, and was by myself and I had a fucking amazing experience. It was very personal and spiritual, i'll go on more about this later in the next point. But it depends on what you're looking for though. If you want a deeper trip then do it alone, if you want a more fun trip have a buddy to hang with.

5. I used to be extremely depressed a lot in my highschool days. The first time I ever tried shrooms I was a senior in highschool and had sometimes suicidal thoughts (Although, I wasn't too serious with them). I ate the mushrooms alone in my house. After experiencing a sort of light ego-loss I looked at myself in the mirror and was flooded with nothing but positive emotion (After I got over the whole OH SHIT MY FACE IS MELTING phase). Ever since this trip my life has been changed for the positive. I have a much different outlook and haven't thought about suicide once since then. I gained a much deeper respect for myself.

Hope this helps! Be safe and have fun :smile:


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: Dalron] * 1
    #13971785 - 02/16/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ok here is my advice to you:

Body weight can have an effect, but tolerance play a huge roll and by that I mean natural tolerance. Some people will take a few grams and be completely gone. Then there are people like me (I am 6'2 and weight 300 pounds if your wondering) who need 7 grams just for a basic trip.

Now if you are easily paranoid you definitely need to only take a gram at most to see how it effects you. I would advise you against mushrooms but if your dead set on taking them only do a gram the first time. I am a very calm and laid back guy and my fist trip I ate 3g and got my ass kicked. I tripped alone and it was about dusk. I started by eating 1.5g's didn't think it was working then ate the other 1.5g's. My first trip was my most intense and mind blowing trip and nothing has ever compared to it and I have done a 10g trip.

I am not a fan of weed but if when you smoke it you get paranoid I would definitely say avoid it. Most people smoke it to help them calm down when tripping on shrooms.

The best advice I can give you is to remember that everything isn't real. My first trip went like this:

I ate 1.5g's of shrooms wait 30 minutes and though nothing was going to happen then ate the other 1.5g's. 10 minutes later I feel the effects hit me and started watching Dazed and Confused. I was about 2/3 through the movie and I started feeling like I was watching the movie in circles. So I paused it and the colours started to leak out of the tv. I looked at the posters on my wall and they were doing crazy shit. I had one of this demonic knight standing on a pile of skulls with dragons flying around in the background and it was like it had come to life(my other poster were doing the same thing). This was about the time I had to go to the bathroom. I made it there fine and had to shit(this is when it gets weird but bare with me). I had a shit like normal and went back to my room. I laid in bed and finished watching the movie and when it was over I shut off the tv and just laid in bed and my body felt as if it was melting like a candle but at a fast pace. I thought this was pretty awesome at the time but then I looked at my demon knight poster and he was gone. I got a little freaked out and felt like I had to leave my room. Then I felt like I had to shit again. I grabbed my gameboy(witch I though would distract me but found it was almost impossible to stay focused when I was playing) and headed for the toilet and spent 30 minutes trying to shit to no avail. I mean in my mind I was filling the toilet with shit but I would wipe my ass and then there would be nothing there. After I was finally finished on the toilet I got to the sink and washed my hands and looked in the mirror. My whole face was changing and it looked insane. I thought I was going crazy and decide to watch some tv to help calm me down. I don't remember what I watched but I just kept telling myself that I know what I am seeing is not real and it's just the drugs and I eventually started to come down off the trip.

Hope this helps and good luck with what ever you decide.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: mapochi] * 1
    #13971817 - 02/16/11 01:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Body mass does not affect the number of receptors in the average human brain. So weight has no effect.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: Danner16] * 1
    #13971826 - 02/16/11 01:16 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

1) not really, unless your REALLY BIG, then maybe...
2) i like day trips if you can go outside. otherwise. night.
3) weed has always added my trips. you will fer-sur want some for the comedown.
4) I never use a baby sitter. being around people who are not tripping while i am is to hard to deal with. and i would never trip around someone who may end up drunk, it would fuck up my trip for sure dealing with a drunk.
5) if you are in a good happy state of mind don't worry. i go through fits of depression as well and try to remain as sober as i can stand while in my low spells.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: broken] * 1
    #13971848 - 02/16/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you guys so much for all the comments and feedback!

I realize my first post sorta made it seem like I'm constantly paranoid which is not how it is. I usually get paranoid when I'm alone at night (hence the day vs night question) and the house I'll be staying at is extremely big and unfamiliar. When I'm high on weed, I'll convince myself that shit is happening (someone following me, heart attack is going to happen etc) but I can control myself; I've never gotten to the point where I had to call someone or anything. I usually just tell myself it's the drugs and I'll just go to sleep if needed. In general, I'm pretty laid back and easygoing but it's just the shit that goes through my head sometimes you know?

I'm pretty sure I'm going to try it and see how it goes. I'm moving in the summer so this will be one of the last opportunities I'll be able to trip with a friend I really trust.

I'm considering just doing it myself in the daytime and telling her to keep her phone on her in case I need her to come over. I actually really enjoy smoking weed alone so I'm hoping it'll be like that for shrooms :smile:


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: mapochi] * 1
    #13971873 - 02/16/11 01:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

turn off your phone before you eat them. and be careful....mushrooms make you gay.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: mapochi] * 1
    #13971882 - 02/16/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you are thinking about tripping during daytime be aware that your pupils are way dialated and will let tons of light in. Everything will be hell of bright. If you do it during the day pick a shady spot, like in the woods (tripping around trees is always cool anyways) with not too much direct bright sunlight.
That's actually one of the reasons why I prefer tripping at night. The visuals during a night trip are usually a lot more intense for me, too.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: German Kahuna] * 1
    #13972128 - 02/16/11 04:22 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do whatever the hell you want, just make sure you got someone watching your back


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: ANIM0SITY] * 1
    #13972144 - 02/16/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If the house is unfamiliar, maybe go check it out so you know where everything is as to not get lost while trippin'. Good luck! :raveface:


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: ProgFron] * 1
    #13972480 - 02/16/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Basically, just keep in mind that it will end... Whatever happens, you will return to normal...

I would be some where you feel safe and comfortable

Night is best to most of us, but day is fine.... Would not worry about it....

Get mentally set... Listen to your inner voice... If you feel ready, go for it... If you have doubts, wait...  No one can tell ya if your ready other than you

Enjoy and be safe!


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: mapochi] * 1
    #13972644 - 02/16/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

- Weight won't make any difference. Do 1.5grams at least.

- I prefer tripping at night with music, however tripping during the day is less "frightening" in my opinion, and especially since you seem worried about it tripping during the day will give you peace of mind. You can always try it again at night.

- I struggle with deep depression, and it has never been a issue for me.

- Smoke weed when your coming down, it will boost you back up. I would advise against smoking weed during since you seem to get paranoia from it and that could change the trip for the worst.

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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: Cyclohexylamine] * 1
    #13972921 - 02/16/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would make sure you are in a good headspace the day you take them.
I would take 2 grams at night with friend
maybe have benzos like xanax, clonipin, or valium on hand in case things get too tense.
I LOVE smoking weed on mushrooms, however I have read many reports of it leading to freakouts, etc. My advice about weed would be to wait to see how the mushrooms make you feel. After about an hour, smoke weed if you feel like it.


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Re: Shrooms beginner...need tips and answers! [Re: nicechrisman] * 1
    #13972982 - 02/16/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Seems like you already got some sound advice, but I'll add my :twocents:.

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1) Does weight affect how many shrooms I should take? I'm thinking about taking a gram since I want to start with a low dose but would I need more if I'm around 30lbs overweight?




Weight shouldn't have too much of an effect.
I'd start with a half eighth (1.7g) or 2.0g or so.

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2) Is tripping during the day better (less paranoia etc)? I'm a bit nervous about tripping at night because I get paranoid easily (long back story) and I'm a bit prone to depression. I would imagine it would be less frightening to trip during the day?




During the day, you can wear sunglasses inconspicuously.
The sun is also a very beautiful thing; just don't stare at it. :smile:

I prefer to trip during the day myself.
Keep in mind you will probably be tired and want to sleep toward the end of the trip.
So... If you shroom in the morning, you will be very lethargic by the afternoon IME.

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3) Recommend smoking weed during/before? I'm not sure about this one either because somethings weed makes things really serious and paranoid.




If you're a hardcore stoner, I'd smoke throughout.
Otherwise, just smoke at the most intense point. (Roll the joint or pack the bowl beforehand.)

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4) Should I try it for the first time alone or with friend mentioned above?




With a friend.

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5) I really want to try shrooms but I know I'm prone to depression so any advice or personal stories about this will be appreciated! I am not depressed/suicidal right now, however, I've had a history with it and I have certain 'moments' of depression but usually I can control them. I've read shrooms (and other drugs) can bring out buried psychological illnesses so I want to be cautious.




Depression shouldn't be a huge problem.


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