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Re: Iran protests [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13983766 - 02/18/11 10:02 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
simplistic.




aren't you the same person who thinks we're in the middle east because evil cavemen want to kill us?

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Re: Iran protests [Re: Grav]
    #13983772 - 02/18/11 10:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Why would you call them cavemen?  Thats a loaded pejorative term.  Just because some of them may have once hid in a cave does not mean they are 'cavemen'.  They are just as intelligent as the rest of humanity, many are more educated than you or I probably are.

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Re: Iran protests [Re: Grav]
    #13983773 - 02/18/11 10:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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simplistic.




aren't you the same person who thinks we're in the middle east because evil cavemen want to kill us?



Nope.  Just out of curiosity, what is a caveman?  Not who.  What.


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Re: Iran protests [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13983857 - 02/18/11 10:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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How can you trap someone into debt?  Answer, you can't.

Of course this completely ignores the influence of China, India, Russia and others.  Like I said, simplistic.



You get their corrupt leaders like Pinochet in Chile who are put in power by coups orchestrated by western intelligence (back on topic) to take out lots of debt to buy arms off the Anglo-American military industrial complex, when they can't pay off this debt the IMF comes in to "rescue" them. the IMF imposes "conditionalities" on the loan which forces the country to privatise it's economy (IMF shock therapy). This destoys the economy making sure they can never pay off the debt, only the exorbitant interest rates imposed on them. If a leader tries to break free of this slavery something unpleasant happens to them or their family.

It doesn't ignore the influence of these other countries, in fact China and Russia are the main enemies of the AAE, the policies in the Middle East and Africa are designed to keep China and Russia out. There is something called the "Washington Consensus" that counties have to abide by to stay on the right side of the AAE but a new "Beijing Consensus" is emerging in these these developing countries, the AAE doesn't like this.

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Re: Iran protests [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13984070 - 02/18/11 11:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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simplistic.




aren't you the same person who thinks we're in the middle east because evil cavemen want to kill us?



Nope.  Just out of curiosity, what is a caveman?  Not who.  What.




fanatical muslims or islamic extremists operating out of cave systems that are intent on destroying the west through terrorist acts. 

or muslim nations that can't wait to get WMD capabilities so they can effectively commit suicide by attacking the west.

either concept is stupid and simplistic.

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Re: Iran protests [Re: Grav] * 1
    #13984090 - 02/18/11 11:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Of course it is simplistic, you have constructed the strawman such that is simplistic and unrealistic.  :flowstone:

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Re: Iran protests [Re: DieCommie]
    #13984125 - 02/18/11 11:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Of course it is simplistic, you have constructed the strawman such that is simplistic and unrealistic.




to be brief i am simplifying it to summarize the main ideas.  zionists have written pages and pages of documents on those two points but it essentially boils down to those ideas, that the muslim nations are a cesspool of unstable fanatics that the west must defeat before they drop a nuke on us.

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Re: Iran protests [Re: Grav]
    #13984537 - 02/18/11 12:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
simplistic.




aren't you the same person who thinks we're in the middle east because evil cavemen want to kill us?



Nope.  Just out of curiosity, what is a caveman?  Not who.  What.




fanatical muslims or islamic extremists operating out of cave systems that are intent on destroying the west through terrorist acts. 

or muslim nations that can't wait to get WMD capabilities so they can effectively commit suicide by attacking the west.

either concept is stupid and simplistic.



Whether stupid or not they seem to have been embraced by certain humans.  Have you met the Twelfth Imam yet?


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Re: Iran protests [Re: Batty Koda]
    #13985247 - 02/18/11 03:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Isn't that your second false claim of someone making allegations of racism in a week?





Nope.  Your projection of racism/bigotry and his are very real.



What group is this bigotry directed towards, is this the part where you call me an anti-semite?




Nearly, diecommie has this thing lately with accusing people of labeling people racist, when that's not even remotely what they are talking about. I don't know what's up his craw, he's probibly just projecting cause he doesn't like black people or something.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: Iran protests [Re: ScavengerType]
    #13985428 - 02/18/11 03:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Lately?  pfft... Ive been calling out that bullshit for years.


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Re: Iran protests [Re: DieCommie]
    #13985566 - 02/18/11 04:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If you don't see the irony here your blind.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
Conquer's Club

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Re: Iran protests [Re: ScavengerType]
    #13985618 - 02/18/11 04:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I do not.  But I do suspect I see how you have twisted it in your mind. 
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Re: Iran protests [Re: Grav]
    #13987816 - 02/18/11 11:32 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Now that you've seen the true side of the regime, all those who opposed the idea that they are not interested in sovereign rule, can attest to the constitution.


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