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Invisiblepuscle
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Wanna know why?
    #1395135 - 03/20/03 12:09 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)




Subject: Now I Know Why


Now I Know Why I sat in a movie theater watching "Schindler's List," asked

myself,


"Why didn't the Jews fight back?"


Now I know why.


I sat in a movie theater, watching "Pearl Harbor" and asked myself,


"Why weren't we prepared?"


Now I know why.


Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil

people.


On September 11, dozens of capable airplane passengers allowed themselves to

be overpowered by a handful of poorly armed terrorists because they did not

comprehend the depth of hatred that motivated their captors.


On September 11, thousands of innocent people were murdered because too many

Americans naively reject the reality that some nations are dedicated to the

dominance of others. Many political pundits, pacifists and media personnel

want us to forget the carnage. They say we must focus on the bravery of

the rescuers and ignore the cowardice of the killers. They implore us to

understand the motivation of the perpetrators. Major television stations

have announced they will assist the healing process by not replaying

devastating footage of the planes crashing into the Twin Towers.


I will not be manipulated.


I will not pretend to understand.


I will not forget.


I will not forget the liberal media who abused freedom of the press to kick

our country when it was vulnerable and hurting.


I will not forget that CBS anchor Dan Rather preceded President Bush's

address to the nation with the snide remark, "No matter how you feel about

him, he is still our president."


I will not forget that ABC TV anchor Peter Jennings questioned President

Bush's motives for not returning immediately to Washington, DC and

commented, "We're all pretty skeptical and cynical about Washington."


And I will not forget that ABC's Mark Halperin warned if reporters weren't

informed of every little detail of this war, they aren't "likely -- nor

should they be expected -- to show deference."


I will not isolate myself from my fellow Americans by pretending an attack

on the USS Cole in Yemen was not an attack on the United States of America.


I will not forget the Clinton administration equipped Islamic terrorists and

their supporters with the world's most sophisticated telecommunications

equipment and encryption technology, thereby compromising America's ability

to trace terrorist radio, cell phone, land lines, faxes and modem

communications.


I will not be appeased with pointless, quick retaliatory strikes like those

perfected by the previous administration.


I will not be comforted by "feel-good, do nothing" regulations like the

silly, "Have your bags been under your control?" question at the airport.


I will not be influenced by so called, "antiwar demonstrators" who exploit

the right of __expression to chant anti-American obscenities.


I will not forget the moral victory handed the North Vietnamese by American

war protesters who reviled and spat upon the returning soldiers, airmen,

sailors and marines.


I will not be softened by the wishful thinking of pacifists who chose

reassurance over reality.


I will embrace the wise words of Prime Minister Tony Blair who told the

Labor Party conference, "They have no moral inhibition on the slaughter of

the innocent. If they could have murdered not 7,000 but 70,000, does anyone

doubt they would have done so and rejoiced in it?


There is no compromise possible with such people, no meeting of minds, no

point of understanding with such terror. Just a choice: defeat it or be

defeated by it. And defeat it we must!"


I will force myself to:


-hear the weeping

-feel the helplessness

-imagine the terror

-sense the panic

-smell the burning flesh

- experience the loss

- remember the hatred.


I sat in a movie theater, watching "Private Ryan" and asked myself, "Where

did they find the courage?"


Now I know.


We have no choice. Living without liberty is not living.


-- Ed Evans, MGySgt., USMC (Ret.)

Not as lean, Not as mean, But still a Marine.

Keep this going until every living American has read it, and we don't make

the same mistake again




"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the

freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has

given us the freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the

campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the

flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the

protester to burn the flag."



~Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, Sergeant, USMC


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1395356 - 03/20/03 01:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Good words.

It would have been better if we could have resolved this another way, but there doesn't seem to have been one.

Now that we're in there we need to kick ass.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1395556 - 03/20/03 03:36 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If that ain't a five shroom post, nothing is.

Thanks for posting it.

pinky


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1395595 - 03/20/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

/stands and salutes

Thankyou for that post.


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Invisiblepuscle
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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: TackleBerry]
    #1396671 - 03/21/03 01:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It helped me. War is terribly incomprehensible.


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1396698 - 03/21/03 02:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Civilized people cannot fathom, much less predict, the actions of evil

people.




No George Bush is a hard one to fathom thats for sure.

Quote:

that some nations are dedicated to the

dominance of others.




Call it liberation, its just as bad.

What a pile of unadulterated rubbish.


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1396701 - 03/21/03 02:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

One more thing. the title of the thread says "Wanna know why?" which I took to be a reply to "Why Iraq"

How does that rubbish about 9/11 explain why US and UK forces are going to kill more innocent people than died on 9/11?

THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN IRAQ AND 9/11

TERROR IS TERROR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.

YOU FIND WAR INCOMPREHENSIBLE? AH POOR YOU! HOW DO YOU THINK THE CITIZENS OF BAGHDAD FIND IT ?


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Invisiblepuscle
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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1396727 - 03/21/03 02:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

YOU FIND WAR INCOMPREHENSIBLE? AH POOR YOU! HOW DO YOU THINK THE CITIZENS OF BAGHDAD FIND IT ?




I'd expect they're having a tough time with this as well.


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: puscle]
    #1396846 - 03/21/03 04:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A little bit of a tougher time than your having i'd say.


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1396850 - 03/21/03 04:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

It would have been better if we could have resolved this another way, but there doesn't seem to have been one.

Now that we're in there we need to kick ass.




You can think of alternatives all by youreself u know, u dont have to let urself be brainwashed - come on luvvy, Free your braincell.


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1396879 - 03/21/03 04:19 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Lame. You can do better, I've seen you.

Not much better, but better.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: GazzBut]
    #1396924 - 03/21/03 04:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What alternatives do you have Gazz?


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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: z@z.com]
    #1397207 - 03/21/03 06:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

A while back GazzBut suggested lifting the sanctions and loaning Hussein money to rebuild the country as his preferred alternatives.

pinky


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Re: Wanna know why? [Re: Phred]
    #1397380 - 03/21/03 07:07 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

If we lifted the sanctions I hardly believe we would need to loan him money.


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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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