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InvisibleAlien
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    #1393140 - 03/19/03 10:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1393256 - 03/19/03 10:36 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I also was wondering which lights would be best for my setup?

Any help is appreciated!!

A) A "grow Light" looks like a normal fluro from lowes, supposedly makes the flowers super grow.
B) A wal-mart stick me anywhere fluro?
C) Some other sorta light!!!

What lights can I find that I dont have to wire in that produce blue spectrum???

Thx

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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Apocolypse]
    #1393450 - 03/20/03 12:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

those lights covered with a blue film work great. they are regular screw type bulbs meant to accentuate and help grow a small house plant.


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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: felix]
    #1393920 - 03/20/03 04:51 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

a friend uses one of those sun lamps, the full spectrum kind that are supposed to help your mood in the winter. it's an expensive solution but he tells me it works!


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    #1394918 - 03/20/03 10:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1395786 - 03/20/03 05:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Try verilux

http://www.allergybuyersclubshopping.com/fulspecfrosf.html

Artificial light has two qualities: the color temperature (measured in Kelvin I believe) and the CRI (Color Rendering Index). The CRI is a measurement of how closely the light approximates sunshine -- daylight has a CRI of 100 theoretically. Those shitty methadone clinic fluorescent bulbs have a CRI of like 45 (Philips Cool White)

The verilux are pricey -- SWIM got some fluro tubes for like $10 a piece! The light is very good. SWIM has had good luck with pin sets under diffuse full spectrum (e.g. Verilux) bulbs.

I dont work for these crackers or anything -- they are just the only "full spectrum light" vendor I know of ....


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    #1396125 - 03/20/03 07:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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    #1396167 - 03/20/03 07:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1397252 - 03/21/03 06:20 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

IMO light isnt important enough to buy a special light, i think stamets was saying that the spectrum that mycellium respond to best is the blue/violet (i cant remember the exact length) Light is like the key to the mushroom automobile, it starts it, but after its turned on it isnt really needed, although if you pin with light, then stop, your shrooms wont grow straight...


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    #1397896 - 03/21/03 10:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: poke smot!]
    #1399738 - 03/22/03 06:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

These LEDs have a 470 nm wavelength (typically). You need 480 nm. They're probably about as close as you could get to lighting with just that pure color (short of using diffused laser light). The heat generated by these things would be minimal.

You would need to do some construction. Wire the LEDs with appropriate resistors in parallel then connect this to a AC/DC transformer with the appropriate power rating and hook this into a cheap AC timer and then into the wall outlet.

Or you could forget about the AC/DC adapter and let it run off DC current with an appropriate DC timer (hard to find and expensive). This could be useful for a portable grow setup (battery operated in a van, shed, etc).


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    #1400211 - 03/22/03 10:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1406980 - 03/24/03 09:17 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm a first timer and have yet to germinate my spores (EQ on rye, hehe) but I've been doing plenty of research and I was already curious about this aspect of mushroom growth- might as well optimize every single thing and go all out. let me know Alien how this turns out, i'll be following closely...

it's wonderful to see so many people thinking methodically and devising clever experiments, if only they tought something like this in high school I think kids would learn to appreciate science and nature a whole lot more! ;P

ExPr

my background is in human tissue culture so I'm fairly confident in my sterile technique, and it helps with access to flowhoods and such so I'm pretty stoked on getting a good first harvest.


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    #1407573 - 03/25/03 05:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1409030 - 03/25/03 03:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Corecto Mundo, Alien

A few years ago, in a far far away time, when I didn?t have a clew what I was doing, I had the bright idea to use a 5500K light source as 5500K is supposed to have a good Color Rendering Index. Meaning it will give good reflective properties to light blue as well as red. My little shroomey buddies quickly told me ?I HATE YOU?!

I quickly changed the lamps to 6500K, Daylight white/ Cool white, and my little shroomey buddies told me ?I LOVE YOU?! 4500K, warm white, is high in red spectrum. Don?t even go there.

I also installed a high UV light, not a true blue black light, but high in UV around 320 NM. I experimented with it to start penning. 5 minute on cycle, it didn?t seem to help. This is about the time PF was experimenting with black light and mutated his entire strain! That?s right Boy?s and Girl?s, black light will mutate your strain to the point the second generation will say, ?I HATE YOU?!! Don?t even go there. What PF is hawking now is not even close to his strain in ?99. I have gone through a living HELL with the PF mutant strain. Seams his original strain is lost and gone FOREVER!

I don?t use fluorescent, I use neon. I suggest if you must use fluorescent, Daylight T8 is O.K., T6 would be better, less flicker. A 50% on cycle works fine, puts less heat into your growing environment. LOL




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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: Alien]
    #1434661 - 04/07/03 12:04 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

i use a 25 watt compact floro... is that ok?


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Re: High Blue Spectra vs Warm-White/ Cool White [Re: amyloid]
    #1461348 - 04/15/03 07:58 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

this thread addressed an issue i have been thinking about for a while. while we all agree that our favorite species doesn't need a particular type of light, those who have read TMC may have thought about certain types of light initiating more pinheads than others. quoting TMC: "A thorough investigation on the photosensitivity of Psilocybe cubensis can be found in a master's thesis by E.R. Badham (1979). His work reinforces the conclusions of other researchers working with the basidiomycetes: more pinheads are initiated upon exposure to blue and ultra-violet light with distinct peaks at 370, 440, and 460 nanometers. Badham showed that light stimulation at these wavelengths for as little as half a millisecond per day caused primordia to form."

so, this being said, where does one obtain a bulb which emits light on these frequencies? i am assuming a black light falls into the range of wavelengths, after all a black light is really blue and the spectrum of visible light starts at 400 nanometers. if anyone else has info on this i'd like to see it posted, or if i'm wrong about anything i've written, i'd like to see that too


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