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Agnostic is weak atheism as far as I know... 
Not really
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RationalEgo said:
Agnosticism is just cowardice IMO.
No it's not
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Weak agnosticism is a lack of belief with an openness to being proven wrong.
Strong agnosticism is the belief that God is beyond knowing.
There's a lot of overlap between weak agnosticism and weak atheism obviously, I think it's "agnostic" if you're open to being proven wrong.
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Pragmatic atheism is where it's at: I recognize that God's existence is unprovable but I live my life as if God does not exist.
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 Re: I hate Richard Dawkins  [Re: deCypher]
#13928004 - 02/08/11 03:16 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm a strong agnostic because practically, it is the same: since I can't know, why try to figure it out?
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Its an interesting point. I never said there was no possibility though, I just said im not going to believe it until its likely to be true.
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Weak agnosticism is a lack of belief with an openness to being proven wrong.
Strong agnosticism is the belief that God is beyond knowing.
There's a lot of overlap between weak agnosticism and weak atheism obviously, I think it's "agnostic" if you're open to being proven wrong.
I dont think you cant be open to being proven wrong and still be an atheist .
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Weak agnosticism is a lack of belief with an openness to being proven wrong.
Strong agnosticism is the belief that God is beyond knowing.
There's a lot of overlap between weak agnosticism and weak atheism obviously, I think it's "agnostic" if you're open to being proven wrong.
I dont think you cant be open to being proven wrong and still be an atheist .
That's totally what atheism is, though. 
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Atheism is commonly defined as the position that there are no deities. It can also mean the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. A broader definition is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
Well google says different, there is nothing in there about there being no possibility of a god existing, merely that one does not believe that there is one, it is possible to not believe in something but still believe it is possible.
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I find the whole argument to be handicapped by the fact that, even among people attending the same church services, I don't think anybody hears what the other person means when they say "God."
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Yeah atheism is based entirely on defining God, and then destroying that definition. It's a philosophy generally held by smart people that don't ever leave their heads. Better than dumb people that don't leave their heads, but they could still do with a little heart every now and then 
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Re: I hate Richard Dawkins [Re: deCypher]
#13928337 - 02/08/11 04:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think he's an intelligent guy and I'm glad he's there to provide an opposing viewpoint to the equally dogmatic fundamentalists out there.
QFT
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Re: I hate Richard Dawkins [Re: g00ru]
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It's obvious that a supernatural being could not exist under natural laws. It's like saying water is never dry. At first glance it appears to mean something but it's actually nonsense.
IMO there's just a big disconnect between people who understand the distinction and people who don't, and a major lack of empathy on both sides.
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Mmhm, for instance Richard Dawkins actually describes in The God Delusion an experience he had that I would consider a spiritual experience of being really deep in the moment, but to him that experience somehow confirms his view that there is no God.
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Re: I hate Richard Dawkins [Re: Abuse]
#13928405 - 02/08/11 04:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think he's an intelligent guy and I'm glad he's there to provide an opposing viewpoint to the equally dogmatic fundamentalists out there.
QFT
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