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WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?!
    #1391747 - 03/19/03 02:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

my friend has tried 3 very unsuccessful times to grow the verm/BRf/half-pint way. what is he doing wrong?! he's done everything according to the TEK and it fucks up every time. can anyone give him some pointers? or perhaps a better way to grow. he's got EQ and B+ strains.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1391764 - 03/19/03 02:54 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

where did you purchase your syringes from? how are you sterilizing your jars?


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: theseeker]
    #1391776 - 03/19/03 02:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

i think his problem is the jars drying out. cause the mycelium begins to colonize and then it stops... totally. just sits there. smells like mushrooms, and doesn't change color. what's up? how can he keep his substrate from drying out?


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1391784 - 03/19/03 02:59 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

thats a real common problem with cakes, halted growth, you could try scraping the uncolonized off and case it


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Trippy Hippy]
    #1391796 - 03/19/03 03:03 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

When substrate is too dry usually the problem is that the air is too dry. Are you using an incubator? The purpose of the incubator isn't just to supply heat but also no dry out substrate with dry air.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: SixCee]
    #1391840 - 03/19/03 03:14 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

Are the lids tight or loose?

Did you take the tape off, or leave it on?

It may not be getting enough air exchange.

Oh yeah, and dry heat is bad.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1391907 - 03/19/03 03:35 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

the jar lids are tight, tape on, a heat pad in a tub with the jars in another tub on top. should i loosen the lids or release the tape holes? throw in a damp towel for humidity?!


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1391924 - 03/19/03 03:41 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

if you do it once and fail, and then do it the same exact way and fail again... and then the same exact way and fail again, can you really be surprised?

the heating pad may be the problem. the direct heat tends to dry out the jars. don't use one... incubate at room temperature and it'll be a little slower, but surer.
when you make your substrate, try doing it like this: get a big bowl of vermiculite (use coarser stuff) and saturate it with water. then strain it, so that the excess drains out. then add half as much brown rice flour as you used vermiculite. stir stir stir stir stir. put in jars, add verm seal, etc. i always did it like that and it worked.

it may just be easier for you to try whole grains.


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    #1391970 - 03/19/03 03:57 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

right on, man. sounds good. i'll try the BRF one more time and maybe look into grains. thanks for the help all. i'll keep the progress posted...


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1392030 - 03/19/03 04:17 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

I think it's the lack of air exchange that's stunting the growth, but if you have dry heat and you loosen the lids and/or take the tape off, they'll dry out.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1392039 - 03/19/03 04:19 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

BTW, heat isn't really nessisary. They'll do fine colonizing at 75-80 degrees. Unless you have them somewhere cold, or you're in a hurry I wouldn't bother.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1392082 - 03/19/03 04:30 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

at night it gets around 55-65 F around here. that's a bit cold. i think i can figure out a way to use the heat pad but not directly jsut to get some sort of heat to them... i'll play with it. thanks.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1392250 - 03/19/03 05:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago)

id say its definatley the air exchange problem. take the tape off the holes, sit back, watch that mycellium grow rapidly...


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: A0999]
    #1399635 - 03/22/03 04:49 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

right on!! he took off the tape and put a tray of h2o/h2o2 solution inside for humidity and they fucking took off!! whoo. thanks guys.


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: Howardo]
    #1400208 - 03/22/03 10:21 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

cool man. good luck


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Re: WHY IS IT SOOOO HARD?! [Re: A0999]
    #1400265 - 03/22/03 10:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago)

my cakes were unsuccessful too, i'm working on casings and the results are getting better


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