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studrinstanly
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Amanita Phalloides
#13907639 - 02/04/11 09:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If i consumed Amanita Phalloides i would be violently illl for about 2 days right? Or could i still eat the shroom, not feel sick, but still have liver damage? So about 30 hours ago, Thursday night i ate a mushroom that looked like it the phalloides i wasnt sure but thought it was safe because i got it online from a reputal source. Than after an hour i was so freakin worried i made myself throw it up. Since then i notice a little nasuea but i havent thrown up on my own or have diareha. Shit sounds crazy i kno Im just worried. So Phalloides would cause EXtreme vommiting and diareeha or could it cause just light sickness? Any thoughts
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elprawn
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It would cause death.
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vjp
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: elprawn]
#13907714 - 02/04/11 10:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you link us to your online "reputal" source? Specifically, the link showing what they are?
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studrinstanly
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: vjp]
#13907739 - 02/04/11 10:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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got it from shamansgarden.com. they were the siberian batch (all the descriptions show the same picture.) in the batch i had they were all redish but the one from the batch i ate last night was light tan (which looks like a possible phalloides but couldve been a strain of muscaria). i asked them via email and they told me it was a cap from the Latvian batch. But you never know. I feel fine im just hoping my liver/kidneys are okay?
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NeoSporen
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Amanita muscaria has many different color variations in nature, from deep red, to orange, rusty brown looking, light yellow. It all depends on the species that was collected and many natural factors. But it is hard to tell what you actually got. I wouldn't imagine that you got a poisonous mushroom in your order, but I guess it could happen. Wish I had more to say.
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: NeoSporen]
#13907818 - 02/04/11 10:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Could be Amanita pantherina
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If you think that you've actually eaten Amanita phalloides, then you should see a physician. They can do tests to see if your liver or kidneys have been damaged.
Before you go and spend that sort of money, you should probably consider looking up the actual signs and symptoms of amatoxin poisoning. Then, if you can convince yourself that you've managed to do that, go see a physician.
If you've actually eaten one, then you may or may not be poisoned. The toxin levels in individual specimens vary considerably. Again, if you think you have, then see a physician.
Happy mushrooming!
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: ToxicMan]
#13907831 - 02/04/11 10:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
vjp said: Could be Amanita pantherina
That's actually just what I was thinking, since that site sells pantherina as well.
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studrinstanly
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: ToxicMan]
#13907862 - 02/04/11 10:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok thanks guys. ive looked up everything about phalloides on the web and they early symptoms are getting very ill for days after but i feel fine but im definetly gonna see if i have liver damage bloodtest. I just am not sure if i can still show no signs of sickness but have liver and or kidney damage. But it sounds like if i did eat poisonous one i would be throwing up and shitting by brains out. Thanks for the help!!
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studrinstanly
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yeah i thought Pantherina too but when i ordered last month they were sold out of them so....idk but i feel fine so far so i guess im ok?
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Please understand that I cannot give you any definite answer and that if you have concerns you should seek medical attention.
In my opinion, it is unlikely that you would be send misidentified muscaria that was really phalloides. If it was phalloides and you ate it, you would probably have experienced significant symptoms in the postingestion period.
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: groople]
#13908639 - 02/05/11 01:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you got it from an online supplier, the chances they picked phalloids instead of muscaria is slim. Last thing a supplier needs is that kind of mistake. I'm fairly certain you ate a muscaria or pantherina variant like vjp stated. The best way to avoid this in the future is to get intimate with the mushroom and learn to ID it yourself. Finding this mushroom is like a prize =D Best of luck to you, and hope you enjoy this mushroom in the future!
FYI, A. phalloids is usually white/yellow to white/green. Not sure I've seen one with a tan cap.
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I'm pretty damn sure you'd have constant, violent, unstoppable vomiting and diarrhea if you consumed a phalloides!
You're just making yourself worse. It's amazing what you can make yourself feel or do if you tell yourself so!
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studrinstanly
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: daz01]
#13911207 - 02/05/11 04:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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im still feeling 100% so idk. i always do this to myself worrying and shit. thanks for the support
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If it was phalloides I'll bet it tasted really good!!
Those cyclic polypeptides that kill your liver and kidneys have fantastic flavour to them.
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studrinstanly
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: LanLord]
#13911509 - 02/05/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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as far as i remember they tasted the same as the other amanitas i had...like shit
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NeoSporen
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When prepared right, Amanitas can actually be quite delicious IMO. Maybe it's just an aquired taste
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: NeoSporen]
#13912098 - 02/05/11 07:39 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm definitely gonna pick some of the fulva, citrina and rubescens I find this year.
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studrinstanly
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Re: Amanita Phalloides [Re: elprawn]
#13912180 - 02/05/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah I get used to it after a while. kinda like potato ships
Edited by studrinstanly (02/05/11 07:56 PM)
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elprawn
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What's a potato ship?
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