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OfflineLearyfan
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Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round"
    #1389961 - 03/19/03 04:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department
of the United States
We have a problem.
The companies want something done about this sluggish
world economic situation
Profits have been running a little thin lately
and we need to stimulate some growth
Now we know
there's an alarmingly high number of young people roaming
around in your country with nothing to do but stir up trouble
for the police and damage private property.
It doesn't look like they'll ever get a job
It's about time we did something constructive with these people
We've got thousands of 'em here too. They're crawling all over
The companies think it's time we all sit down, have a serious get-together-
And start another war
The President?
He loves the idea! All those missiles streaming overhead to and fro
Napalm
People running down the road, skin on fire
The Soviets seem up for it:
The Kremlin's been itching for the real thing for years.
Hell, Afghanistan's no fun
So whadya say?
We don't even have to win this war.
We just want to cut down on some of this excess population
Now look. Just start up a draft; draft as many of those people as you can.
We'll call up every last youngster we can get our hands on,
hand 'em some speed, give 'em an hour or two to learn how to use
an automatic rifle and send 'em on their way
Libya? El Salvador? How 'bout Northern Ireland?
Or a "moderately repressive regime" in South America?
We'll just cook up a good Soviet threat story
in the Middle East-we need that oil
We had Libya all ready to go and Colonel Khadafy's hit squad
didn't even show up. I tell ya
That man is unreliable.
The Kremlin had their fingers on the button just like we did for that one
Now just think for a minute-We can make this war so big-so BIG
The more people we kill in this war, the more the economy will prosper
We can get rid of practically everybody on your dole queue if we plan this right.
Take every loafer on welfare right off our computer rolls
Now don't worry about demonstrations-just pump up your drug supply.
So many people have hooked themselves on heroin
and amphetamines since we took over, it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine
It's easy.
We've got our college kids so interested in beer
they don't even care if we start manufacturing germ bombs again.
Put a nuclear stockpile in their back yard,
they wouldn't even know what it looked like
So how 'bout it? Look-War is money.
The arms manufacturers tell me unless
we get our bomb factories up to full production
the whole economy is going to collapse
The Soviets are in the same boat.
We all agree the time has come for the big one, so whadya say?!?
That's excellent. We knew you'd agree
The companies will be very pleased.





Discuss these lyrics.......

I think this line
Quote:

it's just like Vietnam.
We had everybody so busy with LSD they never got too strong.
Kept the war functioning just fine


is wrong. LSD helped fuel the anti-war movement. The last thing the government wants is people taking a chemical that turns them into peaceniks.



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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Learyfan]
    #1390030 - 03/19/03 05:28 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)


I would agree with you. If you want to control a population or just maintain "business as usual" you wouldn't turn psychedelics loose on a society. The government tried to use some psychedelics as mind control agents (see the book "Search For The Manchurian Candidate" by Marks), but quickly found them unsuitable. Thats why they were made illegal so quickly.


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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: AislingGheal]
    #1390040 - 03/19/03 05:31 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I went to see Jello Biafra speak a year or two ago, and I asked him if he thought psychedelics were the next step in human evolution. He said "Of course I don't. Look at all those burnouts from the sixties."




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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Learyfan]
    #1390121 - 03/19/03 05:59 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I bet you would be totally cool to hang out with, your posts are great. Anyhow I think the book "Storming Heaven" by Jay Stevens is instructive in this instance. When psychedelics came on the scene no one knew what to make of them, users or non-users. There was no history of use, no understanding of the pitfalls. Some people just did as much acid as possible, which in 2003 we know to be a mistake. In the sixties people were short on know-how and long on willingness, which lead to people learning a lot of hard lessons. Some gave up on psychedelics and some continued to use them in a more moderate manner. I like the McKenna model; use them with purpose, 2 or 3 times a year. I think that psychedelics will and do have an impact on our world and evolution.


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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: AislingGheal]
    #1390226 - 03/19/03 06:26 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you for your compliment sir. As for "Storming Heaven", I LOVE that book. I think everyone should read it.

So yeah, Jello was off about the LSD thing. How about the rest of it?

BTW, "Kinky Sex....." is from "Give Me Convienence Or Give Me Death"



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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Learyfan]
    #1390942 - 03/19/03 10:25 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ah, DK, havn't listended to these guys in a while... What do you think about Jello sueing his former band members?

"Acid Dreams" by Martin A. Lee has a part that talks about the whole mind control experiments.

.. the song is pretty cool but I dont really think that the government (reagan?) really discussed things like that, too paranoid-conspiracy like for me.


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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Learyfan]
    #1390956 - 03/19/03 10:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

LSD helped fuel the anti-war movement.




Ummm....I'll respectfully say that it is very debatable.

As for DK, right on. I think alot of what they say really does apply to to day's trouble.

I really wish Bush found other ways to have fun with his presidency. Go jogging to McDonalds or something...


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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Crass]
    #1391064 - 03/19/03 11:01 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

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the song is pretty cool but I dont really think that the government (reagan?) really discussed things like that, too paranoid-conspiracy like for me.




Jello used exaggeration sometimes. But the point is still there. Ironic, how this song can relate so much to current events.  :frown:

I think the 60's are something we can learn from. It was only the start. However, it had it's flaws. It'll happen again, and this time, we've got some evolution under our belts. Unfortunately, a lot of de-evolution too.

I'm really interested in how Jello feels about the current events. Haven't seen much from him lately personally. 


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Re: Dead Kennedys - "Kinky Sex Makes The World Go 'Round" [Re: Learyfan]
    #1391097 - 03/19/03 11:13 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This reply is to everyone i guess...........

Jello has a new spoken word out....double cd i think.....supposively he talks alot about 9-11 and terrorism and such.....

I have yet to hear it......anyone out there get a listen yet????


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