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Offlinehongomon
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: Evolving]
    #1392307 - 03/19/03 05:39 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Pipedream?
As in hash pipe?
As in crack pipe?




:smirk:
As in whichever illicit pipe graces your dream. 


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Offlineupupup
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: ]
    #1392310 - 03/19/03 05:40 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I do support the drug war and I am going to start by confiscating all ya'lls drugs......HAND EM OVER......


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: upupup]
    #1393990 - 03/20/03 05:11 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

drugs? i hate people that take drugs...


police officers, customs officials, etc...  :laugh:


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Offlineflow
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: ]
    #1394030 - 03/20/03 05:22 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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the tobacco plant contains nicotine. nicotine is not synthesized by cigarette companies and added to their cigs. even if it was... it's only because people want it. there are still 'lite' and even 'ultra lite' cigarettes available.



ok, so how many people in here want more nicotine in their cigs?? This was an immoral move by tobacco companies to raise the number of people addicted to nicotine. By doing so they effectively made money by causing and feeding addiction. this should be allowed to happen?
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that was wrong and they should be held accountable for it. however, for years, it has been common public knowledge that cigarettes are harmful and addictive. cigarette companies are even forced to say so on the pack (for those of us that didn't know). people still choose to smoke.



ok, i agree. but how many of those who still smoke knew how addictive nicotine was before they got hooked? Cig companies today still don't admit that most medical doctors will tell you that nicotine is only a little less addictive than coke.


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: flow]
    #1394060 - 03/20/03 05:33 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

If you read the nicotine contents of major cigarettes here, and then compared them with the all natural cigarettes here, you'd realize that "Big Tobacco" doesn't add nicotine, in fact it's quite the opposite.


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: flow]
    #1394170 - 03/20/03 06:11 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

where do your facts come from?

This was an immoral move by tobacco companies to raise the number of people addicted to nicotine.

what was? can you demonstrate that the cigarette companies add nicotine to their cigs?

By doing so they effectively made money by causing and feeding addiction. this should be allowed to happen?

again, can you prove that this actually happened?

but how many of those who still smoke knew how addictive nicotine was before they got hooked?

probably no one knows how addictive nicotine is before they start smoking. it's their misjudgement though, not the cigarette companies'. i myself didn't know how addictive and harmful cigarettes were before i had my first smoke. it didn't take me long to realize though, and when i did, i sucked it up and quit immediately. i don't buy cigarettes anymore, but it'd be ridiculous if i thought that other people shouldn't be allowed to buy them. when the topic of cigarettes comes up, i tell non-smokers to never even try a cigarette. not even one puff. they're that nasty. i would never force someone to not smoke though.

Cig companies today still don't admit that most medical doctors will tell you that nicotine is only a little less addictive than coke.

cigarettes are actually more addictive than cocaine.


the only thing that the cigarette companies have done that should be illegal is lie, twist, or otherwise manipulate the truth about their product. they should be held accountable for that. but other than that, they don't do anything that should be illegal.


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Offlineflow
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: ]
    #1394303 - 03/20/03 06:57 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

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what was? can you demonstrate that the cigarette companies add nicotine to their cigs?




they don't anymore.
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the only thing that the cigarette companies have done that should be illegal is lie, twist, or otherwise manipulate the truth about their product. they should be held accountable for that. but other than that, they don't do anything that should be illegal.



i agree, but as i said im a realist, not an idealist. If this is what we get from big tobacco companies, what do you expect from big cocaine? are they magically going to be honest and open? It should happen that way, but it won't. Not like coke will ever be legal though.


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InvisibleEvolving
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: flow]
    #1394315 - 03/20/03 07:01 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

What kind of SHIT is used as adulterants in illegal drugs? Do you know that people died during prohibition because of bad alcohol at a MUCH greater rate than they do today?


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: flow]
    #1394328 - 03/20/03 07:04 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

yes.

if you're trying to make the case that FDA inspected drugs will be less pure and more adulterated than modern street drugs, i suggest you rethink things.


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Offlinegandallf206
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: Fred Garvin]
    #1395136 - 03/20/03 12:09 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

No, with all the money that the goverment makes off the drug war , it will propbley never be over.


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: gandallf206]
    #1395243 - 03/20/03 12:42 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

the government does not make money off the drug war. it spends billions on it. christ.

the drug war started back in the 20's and 30's. there were chinese, mexicans, and blacks using opium, marijuana and cocaine recreationally. at the time, the trend in america was puritanical, paranoid, and racist. so they made these drugs illegal. a certain newspaper tycoon with racist tendencies teamed up with a few corrupt politicians and viola: the drug war, and the propaganda that supported it had begun. ever since then, politicians and the media have been telling us to 'just say no'. and alot of people have been buying that shit.

in the 1950's and '60's... the government, and the people started discovering psychedelics. psychedelics were quickly identified as powerful and possibly threatening to the establishment, and so were quickly made illegal.

the drug war exists for several reasons. one is that it's a huge industry. another is that it allows the government an excuse to meddle in everyone's lives a little more. another is that some people just don't want us to have too much fun. the biggest one is that the general public has been grossly misled. someday.. it will be over though. someday.


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Offlinerhizo
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Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: ]
    #1395755 - 03/20/03 04:56 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Well email john walters(drug czar) and tell him your views. also write your local representatives and make some noise.
john walters email addy John_P._Walters@ondcp.eop.gov

of course they'll find you and kill you for speaking out


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Anonymous

Re: anyone here support the drug war? [Re: rhizo]
    #1395811 - 03/20/03 05:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

of course they'll find you and kill you for speaking out

haha. you're joking, right?


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