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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8]
    #13871332 - 01/29/11 02:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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All the moisture and FAE in the world wont help your grow because of the bad vibes your feeding them




Damn, I know it seems that way but it's really not true.  It's the Syzygy strain and we had the laptop set up by them playing recordings of Terence and Ott radio channel on Pandora and stuff haha.

I feel like an asshole for having assumed the worst right away I just couldn't believe it.  Everything seemed so dead on and to get handed an eighth after how long it's been just seemed really strange.  Especially after he just told me about how crazy the trays were going and that he already gave some away.

Oh well, just a poor first attempt I suppose.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871344 - 01/29/11 02:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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You have 8 posts. 8...... Don't be a douche bag before anybody even gets to know you. Bad Idea IMO




If I am the douchebag in this scenario, and OPs actions condoned, maybe I dont care to be a part of this community.

I thank the shroomery with all my heart for its knowledge and sharing.

I dont think the OP does.  He obviously just has selfishness in his heart.

Whatever, im done here.




Don't assume just because he isn't growing in his house, that he's a minor. People bring so much negativity where it's not needed. Assumptions will get you nowhere.

Maybe he lives in a house with a bunch of tropical plants that house a bunch of foreign mold spores. Maybe he's a minor. But really it's none of your business.


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: siko887]
    #13871355 - 01/29/11 02:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It becomes ALL OF OUR BUSINESS when he brings it on here.  Everything on the shroomery represents the shroomery.  Like it or not, that is how perceptions work.

He could have easily made this thread without the drama, and no one would have said anything but kind helping words.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871372 - 01/29/11 02:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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It becomes ALL OF OUR BUSINESS when he brings it on here.  Everything on the shroomery represents the shroomery.  Like it or not, that is how perceptions work.

He could have easily made this thread without the drama, and no one would have said anything but kind helping words.




Or everyone could have simply ignored the drama and answered the question. We all see people doin stupid things and most of the time its funnier to just sit back and watch.

So take a seat. Drink a beer. And try not to flat out insult people, especially when you don't know their circumstances.


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13871380 - 01/29/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't even understand why it's assumed I'm a minor.  Just because I'm not in a situation to grow in my house?

I don't live somewhere where affording a place yourself at 22 is possible unless you're some kind of trustfund baby.  Not everyone in the city takes kindly to people growing strange fungi in their closet.

If the first thing you think is "living at home with your parents" instead of many of the other possibilities, I think it says more about YOU than it does about me.  I've lived all over the country, haven't been at home for a few years.  Sorry to rain on another of your poorly formed assumptions.

Thanks everyone else for the insight.  I realize it was stupid to jump to that as a POSSIBLE conclusion but I didn't think it would hurt to ask.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871387 - 01/29/11 02:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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It becomes ALL OF OUR BUSINESS when he brings it on here.  Everything on the shroomery represents the shroomery.  Like it or not, that is how perceptions work.

He could have easily made this thread without the drama, and no one would have said anything but kind helping words.




Glad to see we're adding a neurotic asshole to the community.  What a welcoming party you've turned this thread into Narcoticrex!

1.)  Numerous false assumptions about me.
2.)  Fueling and or creating unneeded drama.
3.)  Hijacking threads.

All within your first 10 posts!  Welcome!!


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: siko887]
    #13871392 - 01/29/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yknow, I could sit here all day and school you.  Nice attempt at argument deflection.

Its not about you being a minor.  its not even about you having your own place.

Its about you whining on the internet because you think you got ripped off, by your "friend" WHO TOOK ALL THE RISK AND PROBABLY MOST OF THE CARE....at least, what care it looks like it was given.

Like I said, if you dont trust him, take your ball and go home.  Dont come on the internet with a couple pictures of some shit shrooms and ask us to make judgement calls whether your friend is in a "conspiracy" against you.

goddamnit people are ignorant.  its no wonder our world is so fucked up.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13871396 - 01/29/11 02:47 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

And you have 350 posts and cant grow shrooms worth shit.

So what does that say?

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871409 - 01/29/11 02:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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And you have 350 posts and cant grow shrooms worth shit.

So what does that say?




It says: ITS TIME TO GET HIGH :P :awecid:


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871413 - 01/29/11 02:51 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

If it's not about being a minor why bring that up in the first place?

I did no whining.  Asked a question.

I've been on the shroomery for a bit now.  Haven't ever set anyone to Ignore yet.  You've been on here for 11 posts now and already I see reason to do so.

Numerous other people here have ALREADY instructed you to change your approach.  I have been rated highly by others (aside from making the mistake of asking a question about NeuroSoup's book).  And yet you are going to school me all day? 

I bid you good day.

Thanks again to everyone else.  Hopefully this thread will get locked any minute.  It was meant to be a simple question.  Not a breeding ground for brand new members to try to prove themselves as vigilantes.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13871429 - 01/29/11 02:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The problem is that they are dry.  Not enough humidity.  I'm not responsible for that aspect of the grow.  As you yourself pointed out.

I boiled the grains to proper moisture content, build glovebox, inoculated, colonized without contam, pasteurized the substrate, spawned all with no contams.  They are not getting enough misting/FAE now that I'm not there everyday to do it.

Where are your grow pics?  You're not worth the time to respond any longer.  Good day all.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13871434 - 01/29/11 02:57 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

"Numerous other people here have ALREADY instructed you to change your approach."

Really, can you name them? I only see Siko.

But I can count at least 3 others basically calling you a douche.

Have fun in your fantasy world.  I dont think you need to eat anything to get fucked up, youre already there.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: narcoticrex]
    #13871468 - 01/29/11 03:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Hey hey now let's not turn this into a finger pointing or popularity contest.

I think your low yield was due to the poor construction of the fruiting chamber. From those pics, your holes are sporadically placed all around the tub different distances from one another and with no regard to the substrate depth. ALSO, how do you expect your substrate to get FAE when they're in a tub with no holes in a tray with poor holes. You can't expect the air flow to reach down a few inches into the tray and initiate pinning.

You should educate your grower before complaining about his yield. I'm sure you would have done it better yourself but he's never been to the shroomery.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: mylfgur]
    #13871497 - 01/29/11 03:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Hey hey now let's not turn this into a finger pointing or popularity contest.

I think your low yield was due to the poor construction of the fruiting chamber. From those pics, your holes are sporadically placed all around the tub different distances from one another and with no regard to the substrate depth. ALSO, how do you expect your substrate to get FAE when they're in a tub with no holes in a tray with poor holes. You can't expect the air flow to reach down a few inches into the tray and initiate pinning.

You should educate your grower before complaining about his yield. I'm sure you would have done it better yourself but he's never been to the shroomery.

peace




Thank you for the sincere, informative response.  :mushroom2:


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13871519 - 01/29/11 03:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

"how do you expect your substrate to get FAE when they're in a tub with no holes in a tray with poor holes."

I meant to say was that your trays don't have holes and aren't filled to the top and they are inside a FC with poor FAE design. I had a little trouble with my first FC because of hole size, too. The holes in that tub look pretty small for the way they're placed.

I think I read on here one time that growing is a "balancing act between FAE and humidity." pretty good advice.


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: mylfgur]
    #13871566 - 01/29/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

It is a balancing act between humidity and FAE.

If I had to prioritize between the two, I would go for maximizing FAE.  contaminations happen in high humidity low air exchange environments.

usually there is enough moisture in a properly hydrated bulk substrate to get you through a flush.

moisture and air exchange are both important ... the way I do things, FAE is critical.

good luck everyone.


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: mylfgur]
    #13871571 - 01/29/11 03:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, honestly I was unsure about the FC's design.  The holes ARE too small.  So we tried to compensate by adding more but I don't think that was all that effective.  We already have new tubs for that though.

As for the FAE and misting... I've tried my hardest to stress the importance of that to him.  He claims he does it a lot but who really knows.  I'm confident the majority of the issue is the poorly built FC though.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

- "Drugs and Drug Policy: The Control of Consciousness Alteration, 2007.

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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Shpongle1]
    #13872214 - 01/29/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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All the moisture and FAE in the world wont help your grow because of the bad vibes your feeding them




Damn, I know it seems that way but it's really not true.  It's the Syzygy strain and we had the laptop set up by them playing recordings of Terence and Ott radio channel on Pandora and stuff haha.

I feel like an asshole for having assumed the worst right away I just couldn't believe it.  Everything seemed so dead on and to get handed an eighth after how long it's been just seemed really strange.  Especially after he just told me about how crazy the trays were going and that he already gave some away.

Oh well, just a poor first attempt I suppose.




bad vibes as in going into the grow all wrong.

you expected something, in return got something else, which didnt make you happy.

you cant be that way about things in this.

there is no set weight you are going to get, there is no set time that they are going to grow and pin.

its a wait and see game, the only thing you control is their environment, which could use some sprucing up..


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Re: First Grow Conspiracy. Need Insight. [Re: Synocybin]
    #13874589 - 01/30/11 01:24 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

You're absolutely right.

I think it's just frustrating given all the time I've spent researching, buying, doing.  And then to have what I consider to be a failure...

Just a new hobby I guess.  Something totally different from anything I've done and I didn't do it well!  Not all that used to that.  Not being conceited here, I just don't have a lot of hobbies I enjoy that I'm bad at so this takes some getting used to.

Feel guilty for assuming the worst about someone just because we didn't make a good team (or a good FC) on this project.  Sorry about the drama, the title was a joke but thanks for the helpful info to those that bothered to give it.

Appreciate it.


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There are more people imprisoned for the commission of drug offenses in the United States - close to 500,000 - than are incarcerated in England, France, Germany, and Japan for all crimes combined.  Examined in another way, the United States has 100,000 more people incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses than all the countries of the European Union combined, despite the fact that the European Union has 100 million more citizens. :crankey: 

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