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Pope Bitches out Bush.....
#1386730 - 03/18/03 04:01 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1386737 - 03/18/03 04:05 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Pope is douche bag.
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1386748 - 03/18/03 04:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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So what?
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upupup
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I just thought it was interesting and that others may as well....
There is not one single organized religion that is into a war.....
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1386787 - 03/18/03 04:21 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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upupup writes:
There is not one single organized religion that is into a war.....
Does the term "jihad" sound familiar?
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Phred]
#1386796 - 03/18/03 04:24 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes, it sounds funny and redundant.
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upupup
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Phred]
#1386806 - 03/18/03 04:29 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jihad is not an organized religion. It is a movement within a religion with no central authority thus my statement still holds....
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1386882 - 03/18/03 04:50 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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upupup writes:
It is a movement within a religion with no central authority thus my statement still holds....
So a religion must have a "central authority" to qualify as an organized religion? I guess that leaves out just about every religion in the world except the Catholic church and the Moonies, then.
Your statement was "There is not one single organized religion that is into a war....."
In fact, the holy books of both Islam and Judaism are into war. Are you saying that neither Judaism nor Islam meet the definition of "organized religion"?
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1386890 - 03/18/03 04:52 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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so know you guys support what the pope says? That's a contradiction if i've ever saw one.
The pope is an nice old man with no grasp on reality.
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Innvertigo]
#1387234 - 03/18/03 07:04 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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i just started my own organized religion. i am the leader i worship war
Edited by morbydvisns (03/18/03 07:07 AM)
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: morbydvisns]
#1387263 - 03/18/03 07:15 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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i don't get it...
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: morbydvisns]
#1387300 - 03/18/03 07:25 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is your name Paul Wolfowitz, by chance?
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1387642 - 03/18/03 08:58 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your link didn't work for me...
But, if this is true...would'nt that hurt his Christian image he's cultivated?
Does this mean he will declare himself a higher authority on evil than the pope? Much like he's declared himself to be a higher authority on world peace than the UN.
Smarter than the pope AND those UN guys!
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: carbonhoots]
#1387657 - 03/18/03 09:01 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not hard to be smarter than the UN guys.
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: carbonhoots]
#1387704 - 03/18/03 09:13 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why would I care what the Pope has to say? He couldn't even make a concerted effort to remove pedophile priests from the Church, his opinion means as much to me as the Dixie Chicks.
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1387898 - 03/18/03 10:14 AM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
I just thought it was interesting and that others may as well....
There is not one single organized religion that is into a war.....
Lot's of christian sects in the USA strongly favor war on Iraq. Watch the 700 CLub. Pat Robertson and his ilk of right wing televangelists are the biggest warmongers around. Go to some churches that have a political christian coalition influince, you'll see organized religion. You'll see the good people saying to nuke those A-rabs...
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Phred]
#1388338 - 03/18/03 01:00 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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So a religion must have a "central authority" to qualify as an organized religion? I guess that leaves out just about every religion in the world except the Catholic church and the Moonies, then. Every religion has a moral authority (I'm going to exclude Satanic cults). Invading Iraq goes against any religion that exists today. In fact, the holy books of both Islam and Judaism are into war. Are you saying that neither Judaism nor Islam meet the definition of "organized religion"? Please note, there is a huge difference between defending yourself and doing the actual war mongering.
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upupup
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Phred]
#1392331 - 03/19/03 03:47 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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To me, If you want to sacrifice chickens and suck out thier blood and call that a religion I'm ok with it. But in order to be an officailly recorgnized religion you have to meet certain criteria. If you can show me a central organization to Islam or Judaism I would be happy to change my statement....
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Edited by upupup (03/19/03 03:51 PM)
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: Zahid]
#1392556 - 03/19/03 04:58 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are several occasions in the Bible where God tells the isrealites to attack and destroy a nation even the women and children (in the old testament). So don't be so quick to say that a first strike is against the Jewish faith.
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Re: Pope Bitches out Bush..... [Re: upupup]
#1392564 - 03/19/03 05:00 PM (21 years, 1 month ago) |
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So neither Islam or Judaism are religions? You just lost all credibility.
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