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Offlinefred222
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Basic newbie casing question
    #1386427 - 03/18/03 01:04 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

First off, my apologies for the newbie-ish question.... tried to figure out the answer from the FAQs but it's eluding me a bit.

Basically my question is.... when instead of growing cakes, you do a casing layer... with the crumbled mycelium between layers of say moist vermiculite.... does the moist casing layer provide the humidity the mycelium needs (i.e. you put the casing container in a terrarium but don't need to do the whole wet-perlite-on-floor-to-raise-humidity thing), or does it not? Just curious. I have two cakes still in their jars that have looked fully colonized for over a week, and i'm debating whether to just birth both onto the bottom of a rubbermaid with wet perlite, or whether to case them. I'm a total newbie, really enjoying this new hobby though, any words of wisdom from a more experienced individual would be most appreciated! :-)

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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1386436 - 03/18/03 01:14 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Wet verm on bottom, crumble cake, wet verm on top.. all is does is provide water to the crumbled cake. it's not meant to provide humidity to the chamber.

now.....

If you can find straw and poop. or either of... mix it up with this and you multiply the amount of usable nutrients... much much better!!!!!!!


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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1386439 - 03/18/03 01:20 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

>does the moist casing layer provide the humidity the mycelium needs (i.e. you put
>the casing container in a terrarium but don't need to do the whole wet-perlite-on-
>floor-to-raise-humidity thing), or does it not?

It does to some extent.
Usually it?s enough if you have the casings in a terrarium and, if you choose the manual fanning, the moisture that escapes the casings is enough to create humid enough conditions for the casings.

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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: Anno]
    #1387369 - 03/18/03 07:46 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Out of curiosity, and as part of my should-i-case or should-i-just-birth deciding thing... could someone give me estimates of approximate dry mushroom yield from either:

A)  Two 1/2 pint cakes in a small perlite-humidified terrarium,

and

B)  Two 1/2 pint cakes crumbled and cased, then put into a terrarium (with as much wet perlite around the edges of the thingie used to do the casing as possible for more humidity)?

Just want to know so i can do a little quick mental risk vs. reward calculation before i go ahead with either :smile:

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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1387396 - 03/18/03 07:53 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Can't answer as i have done very few cakes, and never cased one as is..

but mix with a few handfuls of straw and 2 quarts of poop and get easy 1 oz dry


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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1387401 - 03/18/03 07:54 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

that kramer says, would depend on strain,substrate ,and growing conditions


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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1387424 - 03/18/03 08:00 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Out of curiosity, and as part of my should-i-case or should-i-just-birth deciding thing... could someone give me estimates of approximate dry mushroom yield from either:

A)  Two 1/2 pint cakes in a small perlite-humidified terrarium,

and

B)  Two 1/2 pint cakes crumbled and cased, then put into a terrarium (with as much wet perlite around the edges of the thingie used to do the casing as possible for more humidity)?

Just want to know so i can do a little quick mental risk vs. reward calculation before i go ahead with either :smile: 




Casing will give you a larger initial harvest, but over time the two methods are almost equal.

Some nutrients will be lost over time due to the mycelium sustaining itself, so casing may actually yield more in the end.


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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: fred222]
    #1387428 - 03/18/03 08:02 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Out of curiosity, and as part of my should-i-case or should-i-just-birth deciding thing... could someone give me estimates of approximate dry mushroom yield from either:

A) Two 1/2 pint cakes in a small perlite-humidified terrarium,

and

B) Two 1/2 pint cakes crumbled and cased, then put into a terrarium (with as much wet perlite around the edges of the thingie used to do the casing as possible for more humidity)? 




The potential yield for either method is identical. Same amount of same substrate = same amount of potential fruits. That being said, my friend has found crumbling and casing to be the much easier method of getting the maximum yield.  :laugh: 


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Re: Basic newbie casing question [Re: dog]
    #1387766 - 03/18/03 09:33 AM (20 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks very much for all of your kind help!  Cheers :smile:

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