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The State of The Union Address
    #13850335 - 01/25/11 08:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Transcontinental high-speed trains, promotion of business, education, clean energy, research, freezing gov't spending, better cell phone reception, pulling out of Iraq, etc. etc.

Think any of that will actually come true?

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13850416 - 01/25/11 08:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Doubt it.
Nothing came from last years address(at least that Im aware of.)


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Divinity]
    #13850429 - 01/25/11 08:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Nothing ever does come true :cuteshit:

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: ChinChiller]
    #13851689 - 01/26/11 12:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Nothing came from last years address




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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson] * 1
    #13852164 - 01/26/11 03:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

> Think any of that will actually come true?

Just the spending part.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Seuss]
    #13852178 - 01/26/11 03:56 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Except that he has yet to really make any commitments to spending cuts. He mentioned spending 5x more in the address than cutting.

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: JT]
    #13852654 - 01/26/11 08:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Something's amiss. In the Tea Party Response, Michelle Bachmann was staring at something other than the camera throughout the entire speech.

And it couldn't have been a teleprompter, because no Republican would ever use one.

What was it?

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: jimbotron]
    #13852794 - 01/26/11 09:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

> And it couldn't have been a teleprompter, because no Republican would ever use one.

I assume you are trying to be funny?  I've seen plenty of Republican's use a teleprompter.  If you are alluding to those that make fun of Obama for his teleprompter addiction, then you are comparing apples to oranges.  There is a huge difference between not using a teleprompter and being unable to speak coherently without one.  Clinton often used a teleprompter, but he could speak intelligently without one.  Obama, on the other hand, sounds like a stuttering fool when you take away his teleprompter.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Seuss]
    #13852901 - 01/26/11 09:57 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was thinking that he thinks the media has already destroyed Sarah Palin and so now Michelle Bachmann scares him? :shrug:


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: jimbotron]
    #13852914 - 01/26/11 10:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

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Something's amiss. In the Tea Party Response, Michelle Bachmann was staring at something other than the camera throughout the entire speech.

And it couldn't have been a teleprompter, because no Republican would ever use one.

What was it?





Cue cards.



And to answer OP's question: NO.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: the_drummer]
    #13852980 - 01/26/11 10:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Obama said the first thing he'd do when elected Pres was pull all our troops out of Iraq in 2008 and all our troops out of Afghanistan by 2011.

He did that right?


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: lonestar2004]
    #13853118 - 01/26/11 10:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah man we withdrew from iraq.. sort of...

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13853233 - 01/26/11 10:59 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Transcontinental high-speed trains, promotion of business, education, clean energy, research, freezing gov't spending, better cell phone reception, pulling out of Iraq, etc. etc.

Think any of that will actually come true?



High speed trains-  What?  AMTRAK bankruptcy wasn't enough proof that it is unwanted?
Promotion of business-  Sure.  I like that.  First step, repeal that health care law.  Second step, cut capital gains taxes.  Third remove all sweetheart tax deals for companies involved in widget waxing that were incorporated in Los Cruces on Nov 25 1989.  The tax code is loaded with that kind of shit.  Fourth, eliminate matching soc sec and MC MA from companies.  Let the people see just how much they are paying.  Right now half of the cost is hidden.  Stop telling businesses that they are evil if they make money.  That includes the banks.  I could go on.  I doubt any of those fit the Obama profile of "promotion" however.
Education- Get the federal government the fuck out of it.  They are incompetent and it is stupid to apply the same methods to every single state.  They have different needs.
Clean energy-  The whole wind and solar business is total bullshit and could be handled by private industry.  We need fusion.  That's it.  That is the one thing that might be too big for private industry to tackle and that will reap benefits.  If we do not come up with reasonable fusion in the next hundred years we are going to be well and truly fucked.  Well not us, because we will all be dead by then but humanity needs it.  Nice job shutting down the Super conducting Super collider project, assholes.
Research-  The only research they should be doing is listed directly above.  Everything else should be left to venture people.  Not bureaucrat retards.
Freezing spending-  Given all of the spending plans I just poopooed what the fuck does he think he's going to freeze?  Government ice cream factories?
Better cell phone reception-  ??????WTF??????  Switch carriers, dude.  Mine is great.  Why exactly is this the government's business?
Pulling out of Iraq-  Soon.  They're doing so-so.  Birthing pains but not too bad, not too bad.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13853418 - 01/26/11 11:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with most everything you said except research.

If the gov't is so incompetent at doing R&D then why does all the best technology come from the military?

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13853439 - 01/26/11 11:36 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Not that I'm gong to accede your point about where the best research comes from but the military does almost none of that.  They pay companies to do it.  Sometimes they give the companies a mission and sometimes the companies see a need and do it on their own.  The military doesn't even make it's own shit.  It buys it.  Thank Zappa.  They may get ripped off from time to time but it sure beats the cornhole we would get if they did it themselves.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13853484 - 01/26/11 11:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If you're paying a private company to do research - or expound on existing research - wouldn't that still qualify as "government funded research"?

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13853564 - 01/26/11 11:57 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

There is a difference between funding and doing.  There is also a difference between federal funding of military research and federal funding of the migratory habits of the prothonatory warbler.  One is a legitimate and mandatory function of the federal government and the other is complete bullshit that should be funded by hobbyists who give a shit.


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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13853609 - 01/26/11 12:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Better cell phone reception-  ??????WTF??????  Switch carriers, dude.  Mine is great.  Why exactly is this the government's business?

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was he really talking about that?

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13853635 - 01/26/11 12:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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There is a difference between funding and doing.  There is also a difference between federal funding of military research and federal funding of the migratory habits of the prothonatory warbler.  One is a legitimate and mandatory function of the federal government and the other is complete bullshit that should be funded by hobbyists who give a shit.



Sure, but Obama was talking about funding clean energy research.

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Re: The State of The Union Address [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #13853688 - 01/26/11 12:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Like I said, the only clean energy research the government should be funding is fusion.  So far it is a total pile of bullshit, vast sums flushed down a toilet to subsidize shit that is only marginally useful and that only for restricted parts of the country.


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