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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: shakta]
    #1711571 - 07/13/03 03:49 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah is the same - "deer" "field" "hog" corn all the same...and I guess I should have said this before but the craked corn guy is probably right if you want most inoculation points and available nutrition. You do have to crack that hull at the least, but I believe you would be best off just buying cracked corn. I suggest that slime coat is oil rising and that's just extra food to them.
Can't you add sterilised corn meal mixed with a little corn or peanut oil to your straw before inoculating? I have heard that but have not gotten around to trying it yet, but either way corn they dig...


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1715009 - 07/14/03 06:19 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

wow... amazed to see afoaf's CC quart jar 100% in only 7 days.

his first atempt, sorta sad, he only did 2 jars, one hasnt shown any signs.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: KafkaPie]
    #1716868 - 07/15/03 01:52 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Effed>

Pussycontrol: I think you need to rinse the corn better, like a few times, and as hippie said reduce the cooking time.
Good luck

whats a time and psi you think to cook for me then?


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: pussycontrol]
    #1717264 - 07/15/03 04:38 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

how long would one steam 1/2 pint jars of cc that had been simmered?
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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1717741 - 07/15/03 10:47 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

anybody know a good place to get a large pressure cooker for cheep?


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1718219 - 07/15/03 03:09 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Try garage sales - if the seal is in good shape.
You can buy them online all over - but $100
http://www.goodmans.net/product_information.asp?number=MI-92022&back=yes&dept=32&last=15


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: KafkaPie]
    #1720914 - 07/16/03 10:02 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

KafkaPie said:
wow... amazed to see afoaf's CC quart jar 100% in only 7 days.

his first atempt, sorta sad, he only did 2 jars, one hasnt shown any signs.




that's not all that extraordinary,
i've seen popcorn finish in 7 days. just did 4 qts of popcorn with ralphster's new african strain, on the 9th and they were mostly done yesterday.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Hippie3]
    #1722364 - 07/16/03 07:36 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Whats with all you vendors and "pros"?
Come in here to hate on my tek!
Please just stay the fuck out if you dont have anything positive to contribute.

Hippie.. I kept my mouth shut before with your negative comments, but now you are being a jackass. I keep to myself and try to help out..
If 7 days isnt impressive for cracked corn, it isnt impressive for popcorn.
Are you jealous becuase this tek has comparable results to your popcorn tek? Honestly whats your deal?

Kafka I am impressed with your results, especially for the first time.
Well done!


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1722697 - 07/16/03 09:00 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

so how about them 1/2 pints? how long should i steam them? as per above question.

all these arguments, wtf? very counter productive

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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1722762 - 07/16/03 09:20 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

kuddos effed


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: 284_27]
    #1722792 - 07/16/03 09:30 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Much kudos and thanks Effed :-)

I loaded up a couple spawn bags this past weekend, 2 WBS and 1 CC, the WBS I soaked 24hrs, and the one CC, simmered - I think the only real change was I boiled 2 cups of CC in 10-15 quarts of water, which helped serverly cut back on starch and slime... plan to innoculate with some edibles before the summer is up..

(oh, that one foaf - his second jar - it was just slow - its up to about 10%, just a slacker).


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1722835 - 07/16/03 09:44 PM (17 years, 7 months ago)

why 1/2 pints ?
are you wanting to fruit it as a cake .
if so, i recommend using pf tec, and replace brf with corn flour .
for spawning, however i don't think just steaming would do it .
but, if you don't have a pressure cooker, you can use a combination of microwave and steamer, or fractional strerilzation .

paid's micro-steam tec

fractional sterilization


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: ZippoZ]
    #1723326 - 07/17/03 12:25 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

so how about them 1/2 pints? how long should i steam them? as per above question.

all these arguments, wtf? very counter productive





I agree very valid point, but I do have to defend the newbs ya know. :wink:
As I AM a newbie too!

Id say simmer them and steaming is worth a try..

Experimentation is "where its @".
Which is also what this post is about.
I bought CC thinking "WOW thats cheap, I bet it would work".
If you have an idea, go for it!
There is always more to learn and new ground to break with mycology.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: KafkaPie]
    #1723334 - 07/17/03 12:28 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Kafka: Id like to see how your millet, compares to the CC!
Flush wise also. Someone needs to post some CC flushes!


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1723374 - 07/17/03 12:39 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Amazonian strain on cracked corn spawned to straw cased with verm/coir.



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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1723477 - 07/17/03 01:07 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

Oh that's purty! I gotta try that!


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: curenado]
    #1724266 - 07/17/03 10:34 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

does anybody know the best size of a case to use when casing? and how deep? like 2" 3" or what


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1726955 - 07/18/03 04:56 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

i ask about the 1/2 pints because they are smaller and i prefer working with smaller batch sizes, plus its all i have. i see it as if you have 3 contams going into your jars would you rather have 3 1 qt jars, or 6 1/2qt jars? any other sugestions on how to prevent water loss while steaming?>


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: crazycanadian]
    #1729054 - 07/19/03 12:42 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

The picture is 3 inch deep substrate, cased with a 1/2 - 3/4 inch casing layer.

zippoz: Go ahead and try the 1/2 pints. It will be cool to see how they turn out. I have birthed 1/2 pint CC cakes once and they did pretty well.
They took a while to fruit. I would case them.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1729072 - 07/19/03 12:51 AM (17 years, 7 months ago)

I have gotten fine enough fruit, though not much, out of half pint wides w/ cased rye grain before.


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