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Cracked Corn Substrate Preparation.
    #1385003 - 03/17/03 05:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Cracked Corn Preparation Technique:

Cracked Corn is an alternative to millet or popcorn.
It is easy to find and is about one third the cost of millet.
It can be found at Pet stores as bird feed and also at Feed stores.
In this tek we will use CC for short.

Note: Upon cooking the CC expands *approx* 2x.

1. Get the estimated amount of CC you want and put it into a large pot.
Next cover the corn with water and set the heat between "medium" and "high".
Stirring the pot often.

2. Simmer the CC 30 - 35 minutes on the stove
is enough time, however it depends on how much you are doing and how much
water/corn you are working with etc..
(with small amounts the heat may need to be adjusted lower to prevent boil over)
For large batches this time was correct.

3. Look for the corn to "change", it gets a slime coating on the outside.
CATCH THIS! Do not let it go past this point! As soon as you see the slime coat, take the heat off
and set the pot by the sink. Have a bucket or large bowl in one bin
of the sink and use the other bin of the sink as a work area.
Scoop out enough corn to fill the strainer and run COLD water over the corn THROUGHLY,
then let it drip for a sec... then it goes into the bucket.
Also you can add a percentage of vermiculite (field capacity) to this mix for a good moisture buffer.

You could go right to the jar here...

Or

Take the strained corn and transfer into a new bucket , each time filling the strainer with corn and
rinsing again. Tap it on the sink to get out as much water as possible.

Then transfer it into the new bucket/bowl.

Fill the jars half full, this will allow for easy shaking of the jars after pressure cooking.

Pressure cook for 90 minutes @ 15 PSI
Let cool to 0 PSI with gloves/mitts shake the hot jars to mix the wetter kernels with the drier ones.

Cool to room temp in a relatively sterile envioronment, and inoculate
2.5 cc of spore solution is recommended for each QT jar.
Incubate per strain specifications.

Best of luck.

This is millet, cracked corn, and whole corn.



Here are quart jars after 8 days colonization.
CC with a dash of coarse vermiculite.


Quart jars of millet after 8 days colonizaton.



The results are obvious, the CC colonizes over 3 times as fast as the millet!

Best of luck!


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1385019 - 03/17/03 05:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yep, I used horse feed that was oats and crack corn kernels. They work great. Im gonna put some popcorn in my coffee grinder tmw and see how that works. Not pulverize them but get them broken up bc like you said, cracked kernels are better than whole. Those jars look great btw.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Audi0]
    #1385131 - 03/17/03 05:56 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Yep, I used horse feed that was oats and crack corn kernels. They work great. Im gonna put some popcorn in my coffee grinder tmw and see how that works. Not pulverize them but get them broken up bc like you said, cracked kernels are better than whole. Those jars look great btw.



Thats what I use to make my corn likker outa.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1386233 - 03/18/03 12:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

How do you get the water content right?


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1386346 - 03/18/03 01:26 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good! Can you shake the jars or are the kernels clumped together?


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1387525 - 03/18/03 10:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

funny, I have been using this wild bird
seed mix from home depot.

it doesn't say it or show it on the bag,
but I discovered, upon opening, that
it has a large amount of cracked corn
in it.

at first I was a little hesitant about using
it, but this seed has proven to be a fantastic
mix.

cracked corn in 2004!


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: afoaf]
    #1387623 - 03/18/03 10:53 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

HI,
Hey looks like a good Idea.
this would make sense as don't these particular mushrooms tend to grow under or around 'cow pattys'? And aren't many cows fed a grain diet ( in addition to hay or pasturage) that usually includes all or some corn?
I am thinking that instead of the Home Depot or or a grocery store, that one should buy at a feed coop. That would be much cheaper, especially in large quantities.
So how much water does one add, and then how long in autoclave? Same as other grains? thank you, Athena.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: afoaf]
    #1387644 - 03/18/03 10:58 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

man, your avatar drives me crazy - who is she? :blush: 


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1388281 - 03/18/03 02:38 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Baby Hitler: How do you get the water content right?

The above post should answer your question.

zeronio: Can you shake the jars or are the kernels clumped together?

Yes the jars can be shaken.

athena: this would make sense as don't these particular mushrooms tend to grow under or around 'cow pattys'? And aren't many cows fed a grain diet ( in addition to hay or pasturage) that usually includes all or some corn?

Indeed very interesting point... Great thinking! :smile:


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1388579 - 03/18/03 04:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

36-48 hour soak does wonders for water content.

I don't simmer any grains, just soak.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: afoaf]
    #1388683 - 03/18/03 04:52 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Have you tried simmering CC before?  :smirk: ... No? Then Shhhhhhh!  :tongue:

I have seen the results from both.
Simmered CC seems to have optimum water content.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1388949 - 03/18/03 06:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

soaking is pretty much idiot proof.

plus, I think the prolonged soak times facilitate the
germination of much of the endospores present.

(edit: let's be serious )


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: afoaf]
    #1395459 - 03/20/03 02:40 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I just bought a 50 lb. bag of CC today for $5.00.

I'll be trying it with Oyster, and maybe some other gourmet species in the next couple of weeks.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1395699 - 03/20/03 04:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

WOW!

Thats great.
Cant wait to see your results!!  :smile:


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1396293 - 03/20/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmmmmm ...

SooooOOoooo........ You think you have good kung-fu....Huh..... HiiieeYaaAaaa :tongue:



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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Effed]
    #1396323 - 03/20/03 08:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

"Jimmy Cracked Corn... ANdi DONT CARE!... Ji MMy cracked Corn and Idont care..." im sorry i couldnt resist... heh

no i care though, i wish i had colonized jars of CC. *sigh*, one day i hope to gain MUCHO experienceo like you guys.


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1396361 - 03/20/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks, I was waiting for that post.  :grin:


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Evolving]
    #1396411 - 03/20/03 09:39 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yes, and what I don't use to grow mushrooms I can make moonshine out of.

...using my new turkey fryer. :smile:

I have to say the CC is larger than I was expecting it to be. Larger than rye, or wheat.

Definitely smaller than popcorn though.


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    #1398379 - 03/21/03 01:46 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

:grin: 


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Re: Cracked Corn Substrate. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1398729 - 03/21/03 04:18 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Good stuff man!
Glad to see people getting into the CC revolution!


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