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OfflinePatlal
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2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen?
    #13844392 - 01/24/11 08:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

SCENARIO 1:

The US is now out of Iraq, Afghanistan and pretty much all other warzones. The Russians are now true allies. The US hates noone and isn't hated by anyone.

The military has now become somewhat useless, so the president decide to use them for the drug wars. Of course, with the overwhelming superiority the US has vs the importers, they would win this one with no problem, intercepting all that comes in and comes out.

THerefore, resulting in a drought. No more cocaine being delivered, heroin almost non existant. Whats left of it is being sold around 10 to 20 times the regular price.

What do you think would happen in the country?




SCENARIO 2:

A candidate to presendency has an incredible natural talent at talking to massive crowd and great appeal to everyone. Somewhat like Hitler.

He has a secret agenda of course, but noone can read between the lines, this guy is just too awesome to not elect.

Hes elected now and is now being extremely convincing at passing the following law:

All federal authorities has the right to enter a private residence without mandate based on a suspicion of a crime being commited. The authorities have the right to arrest anyone if they see a crime in progress.

What would be the reaction of the black market?


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Patlal]
    #13844401 - 01/24/11 08:30 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
The Russians are now true allies.
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:horly:


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Salomon]
    #13844408 - 01/24/11 08:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I warned about the unrealism!!!


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Patlal]
    #13844642 - 01/24/11 09:13 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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All federal authorities has the right to enter a private residence without mandate based on a suspicion of a crime being commited. The authorities have the right to arrest anyone if they see a crime in progress.





Wait..... that isnt a law yet?  What country are we talking about?

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Cascadian]
    #13844679 - 01/24/11 09:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Cascadian said:
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All federal authorities has the right to enter a private residence without mandate based on a suspicion of a crime being commited. The authorities have the right to arrest anyone if they see a crime in progress.





Wait..... that isnt a law yet?  What country are we talking about?





he's going with unrealistic, the cop sees me killing people so he arrests you
because you were a convenient way to GTFO of dodge and back to the station
where he could be safe

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Cascadian] * 1
    #13844685 - 01/24/11 09:20 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

please stop making political threads.


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Patlal]
    #13844697 - 01/24/11 09:23 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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A candidate to presendency has an incredible natural talent at talking to massive crowd and great appeal to everyone. Somewhat like Hitler.

He has a secret agenda of course, but noone can read between the lines, this guy is just too awesome to not elect.




Sounds very familiar.

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: collie man]
    #13844726 - 01/24/11 09:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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collie man said:
please stop making political threads.




Why?

SOme people are interested. If you are not, why are you here?


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Patlal]
    #13844835 - 01/24/11 09:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Patlal said:
The authorities have the right to arrest anyone if they see a crime in progress.






Don't they already? I'm pretty sure if a cop walks up and sees me eating mushrooms, I'm going to jail.


*EDIT* CRAP.

My hitting the submit button delay has caused me to make an already-made point AGAIN.

Sorry.

Edited by Melusina (01/24/11 09:46 PM)

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Melusina]
    #13844962 - 01/24/11 10:02 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

well imo..

scenario 1: military personel will become biggest suppliers for the 'underground' especially due to the rise in price as you said.. greed usually always wins

scenario 2: since hitler was well known for this.. alot of people will relate and revolt.. but mainly because hitler already did this.. if hitler never existed and same type person popped up.. no idea what would happen

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: giza]
    #13845109 - 01/24/11 10:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

war=money, so #1 is outta the question

#2 by default haha

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: giza]
    #13845162 - 01/24/11 10:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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giza said:
well imo..

scenario 1: military personel will become biggest suppliers for the 'underground' especially due to the rise in price as you said.. greed usually always wins

scenario 2: since hitler was well known for this.. alot of people will relate and revolt.. but mainly because hitler already did this.. if hitler never existed and same type person popped up.. no idea what would happen



I wouldn't underestimate peoples cunning :tongue: Its not like there weren't scores of dictators before and after Hitler, given the right conditions people will be more than happy to cling to a 'hero'.


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Melusina]
    #13845321 - 01/24/11 11:04 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Okay.

#1.
Would not happen. Our government needs the drug trade as much as it's citizens want it. Without the drug market, the entire economy would collapse. Like it or not, the black market is part of our economy. This is one reason why absolute-legalization legislation is NEVER popular. If drugs were legal tomorrow, you could just flush our country. This is why it HAS TO happen slowly. Now, IMO, it's happening WAY TO SLOWLY for my taste. But it can't happen all at once, tomorrow. And a complete crackdown tomorrow would have the same effect as complete legalization. Seriously. I could VERY LONG post this with drawn-out explanations. This is something I learned in Sociology 101. Everyone learns it. And I was/am a Soc major (heh heh. done with my soc classes. Now I have to take all the other shit I SKIPPED. Astronomy and spanish, anyone?). So it's DRILLED IN, for me.

Unless we move to a COMPLETE totalitarian government...tomorrow...all at once...which also can't happen. Another VERY LONG (as opposed to "pretty long") post.

There would have to be a catalyst.

#2. We are already there. Period. So what's your point?
I have been searched by police (who found NOTHING because I had NOTHING) after peacefully and respectfully declaring that "I do not consent" during routine traffic stops.

I have had my house searched (again, NOTHING, although the officer wanted to know "what's in this bag???" about a taco bell bag from the night before that had been left out), with no warrant, after peacefully and respectfully stating that " I do not consent."

AND?????

I don't know where you live, but I'm in the south. We have no privacy rights. We still can't buy liquor on Sundays, after the supreme court declared blue laws unconstitutional. AND???? We keep our noses REALLY CLEAN.


And....I'm sorry in advance...but one thing about the "hitler" thing. As long as I've been old enough to pay attention to politics, our presidents...that's 3 now for me (I'm young or old depending on your age) have been compared to not only Hitler, but the Antichrist.

Hitler. REALLY? Are we hearing someone openly condone genocide?

No fuck that.

Do we have a president whom EVERYONE supports? or even a majority? The answer is ALWAYS no.

So guys, let's be real.
If Obama was Hitler, our lives would be different, for sure. If he was the Antichrist foretold in the mushroom-soaked revelation of John, NO ONE would dislike him. His approval ratings are in the 40s. If he's Hitler or the "beast," they should be in AT LEAST the 80s or 90s. REALLY.

he's not Satan, he's an inept idiot. He is doing NOTHING except providing fodder for people who hate anyone to the left of the very far right. Should've had Hillary. At least she knows how to use the system.

Just like W. Bush...peple were screaming "hitler," I was screaming DUMBASS.


So let's not freak out over...nothing.

Edited by Melusina (01/24/11 11:15 PM)

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: twighead]
    #13845337 - 01/24/11 11:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

twighead said:
Quote:

giza said:
well imo..

scenario 1: military personel will become biggest suppliers for the 'underground' especially due to the rise in price as you said.. greed usually always wins

scenario 2: since hitler was well known for this.. alot of people will relate and revolt.. but mainly because hitler already did this.. if hitler never existed and same type person popped up.. no idea what would happen



I wouldn't underestimate peoples cunning :tongue: Its not like there weren't scores of dictators before and after Hitler, given the right conditions people will be more than happy to cling to a 'hero'.




Then there is always moral relativism. what if their dictator is THEIR here...just not ours?

Would you cling to someone who cared more about YOU, or more about others? This is how the few marriages that do work out,  work out.

I'm just saying.


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realfuzzhead said:
war=money, so #1 is outta the question






AAAAAAANNNNNDDDDD...YES. :idea:

For the WIN!!!!!!


But... there's always the money from probation fees.

I've never had any (only because I'm way too careful-read- "PARANOID") but they are obviously BULLSHIT. :feelsbadman:

Edited by Melusina (01/24/11 11:24 PM)

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Melusina]
    #13845391 - 01/24/11 11:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

haha probabtion fee's

what i say to the prohibitionist.

"I may not agree with what you believe in religion wise, but I will most definitely, DEFEND TO MY DEATH your right to practice any religion you want. Likewise, i expect you to defend TO YOUR DEATH my right to gather, combust and inhale any plant i want, HARMFUL OR NOT.

if they will not defend to thier death my right to choose what i smoke, i shall certainly not defend to my death thier right to practice a bat-shit crazy religion

:macdre:

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13845452 - 01/24/11 11:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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realfuzzhead said:
haha probabtion fee's

what i say to the prohibitionist.

"I may not agree with what you believe in religion wise, but I will most definitely, DEFEND TO MY DEATH your right to practice any religion you want. Likewise, i expect you to defend TO YOUR DEATH my right to gather, combust and inhale any plant i want, HARMFUL OR NOT.

if they will not defend to thier death my right to choose what i smoke, i shall certainly not defend to my death thier right to practice a bat-shit crazy religion

:macdre:



I agree.

i am not religious, lol. I just use my knowledge of other's religion to back them into a corner.

Does that make me bad? :shock:
guess i should not have bothered reading all those books when I could TOTALLY have been reading Stephen King...someone who ADMITS he is writing fiction :smile:

And no shit...let's get basic....is "freedom of religion" not "freedom of mind?" 

And is that not "freedom to do IN MY OWN MIND...whatever THE HELL I feel like?"

So, if a, then b.  freedom of religion = freedom to take any drug I like.

My own mind is my own church-Thomas Paine. That's going into my signature, just decided, don't know how I overlooked it.

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: Melusina] * 1
    #13845996 - 01/25/11 02:28 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Melusina said:
Quote:

twighead said:
Quote:

giza said:
well imo..

scenario 1: military personel will become biggest suppliers for the 'underground' especially due to the rise in price as you said.. greed usually always wins

scenario 2: since hitler was well known for this.. alot of people will relate and revolt.. but mainly because hitler already did this.. if hitler never existed and same type person popped up.. no idea what would happen



I wouldn't underestimate peoples cunning :tongue: Its not like there weren't scores of dictators before and after Hitler, given the right conditions people will be more than happy to cling to a 'hero'.




Then there is always moral relativism. what if their dictator is THEIR here...just not ours?

Would you cling to someone who cared more about YOU, or more about others? This is how the few marriages that do work out,  work out.

I'm just saying.




:confused:




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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: twighead]
    #13847014 - 01/25/11 10:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

:lolsy:


couldnt of put it better myself

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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: realfuzzhead]
    #13847165 - 01/25/11 10:57 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

In either scenario it limits supply and/or increases risk substantially.

For average consumers, prices and risk would increase, so use would drop.  For the same reason, the number of dealers would probably drop.  This would further allow enforcement to concentrate their resources on a smaller number of hard-core users and dealers.

Eventually, illict drug use would cease.


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Re: 2 unrealistic scenarios. What do you think would happen? [Re: badchad]
    #13847246 - 01/25/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

im on too many drugs to even think about politics, war, etc.. :cloud9:

maybe thats how "they" want me to be :paranoid:


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