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Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking.
    #13844846 - 01/24/11 09:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Now perhaps all the half-wit leftists on here might 'get it'.

:lolsy:

John Galt Speaking Bro

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13845482 - 01/24/11 11:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

this is john galt speaking ..he first appears at 4:41.. and he identifies himself as "galt" at 5:18...they wouldnt make him fascist dictator here..but they were more than happy to oblige him there ..


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13845499 - 01/24/11 11:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Still didn't learn anything? Why am I not surprised. :facepalm:

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13845561 - 01/24/11 11:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

ive learned that you can click on the "f" graphic.. and john galt appears in the middle of the still...hes' the clown in the black dress...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13845601 - 01/25/11 12:06 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13845824 - 01/25/11 01:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

maybe you should be one of john galts' thralls...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13846524 - 01/25/11 08:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13846693 - 01/25/11 08:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

> I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?

Please read the forum rules and do not flame, bait, or troll others.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: lonestar2004]
    #13847905 - 01/25/11 01:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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RationalEgo said:
I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13847966 - 01/25/11 01:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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lonestar2004 said:
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RationalEgo said:
I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...



Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13848081 - 01/25/11 01:42 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Back to the topic. Did anyone actually get a laugh out of that link? I thought it was damn funny bro! :ilold:

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo] * 1
    #13848302 - 01/25/11 02:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It was a lot easier to read than his radio address from the book.  What was that?  70 fucking pages of the same thing?


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13848474 - 01/25/11 02:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yea, it is pretty long, but totally worth the read. It is a full philosophical treatise and as philosophical treatise go, I have seen longer. This comical section was only based on a small section of the actual work.

Edited by RationalEgo (01/25/11 03:08 PM)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13848803 - 01/25/11 03:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Annapurna1 said:
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lonestar2004 said:
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RationalEgo said:
I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...



Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




:lol: like they cant be cheats if they pay their taxes...yeah..right...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13848840 - 01/25/11 04:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Corporations produce goods and services that people want and pay good money for that the majority of customers earned through their own productive activity.

Parasites don't produce ANYTHING but expect and advocate for the government to provide goods and services by thieving capital off of those who produce.

Who is moral? The productive individuals within a corporation?

Or the leech that produces nothing and takes by means of government force?

Edited by RationalEgo (01/25/11 04:22 PM)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13849993 - 01/25/11 07:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Annapurna1 said:
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lonestar2004 said:

i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...



Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




:lol: like they cant be cheats if they pay their taxes...yeah..right...





Seriously, do you ever debate the issue?  You seem entirely convinced of your positions, but I can't recall you ever once defending them.


What you're doing in this thread is what I've seen in all th others: straw man arguments and misdirection.  Take a position zappa didn't advance and attack it whilst ignoring his challenge to you.  This is not debate.  For a result to be achieved by conversation their must be a discussion of the issues raised.  When you invent position that nobody has advanced and then procede to debate these irrelevant arguments, you seem to confirm that you're incapable of ration thought or a defense of your ideas on the merits.

I could respect your beleifs if you could ever defend them, but all I hear from you is hate and one fallacy after another- perpetually battling the ephemeral pos

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: johnm214]
    #13853837 - 01/26/11 12:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

im not trying to build up a strawman.. im merely pointing out that theres no causal connection between paying taxes and being a corporate-welfare cheat...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13854230 - 01/26/11 01:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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im not trying to build up a strawman.. im merely pointing out that theres no causal connection between paying taxes and being a corporate-welfare cheat...



Actually that isn't what you were doing at all.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13858878 - 01/27/11 10:01 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No, it looked exactly like that. Correlation =/= causation, which seems to be what you're arguing.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13859239 - 01/27/11 11:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Who ever said anything about there being one?  It was a straw man she invented.  She, and apparently you as well, don't consider it cheating when bums who don't pay taxes at all still mooch and clamor for yet more more more.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13859518 - 01/27/11 11:58 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

OTOH..the bums who do pay taxes just mooched the taxpayers out of $2 trillion in bailouts...thats *corporate welfare*...regular welfare..which the right believes is a grave moral offense..doesnt even come close to that...

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13859760 - 01/27/11 12:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hey sweetheart you're a little bit behind the times.  The banks returned a profit to the taxpayer.  AIG is on pace to and the only entities still fucking the taxpayer are the government/union owned car companies that were confiscated from their rightful owners and creditors and the government agencies Fannie and Freddie.

You are not entitled to your own facts.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860067 - 01/27/11 01:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

even if that is true (which i doubt).. theres still over a $1 trillion in corporate welfare thats going to the military-prison-industrial complex.. or do you really think that north korea is as dangerous as the USSR was.. or that a couple of joints justifies a half million worth of gravy to CCA/wackenhut...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860079 - 01/27/11 01:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think there are a lot of dangerous countries.  In fact I think there is more potential for bloodshed now than during the cold war and that will only increase as our power decreases.  Weakness only encourages thugs.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860212 - 01/27/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:lol: panhandling for more corporate welfare..are we??...

Edited by Annapurna1 (01/27/11 03:26 PM)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860292 - 01/27/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl2:Buying things that corporations produce is not welfare.  Speaking of cronyism:

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/140533-hhs-grants-new-reform-waivers-amid-heightened-scrutiny
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A week after Republicans announced plans to investigate waivers granted to organizations for healthcare reform provisions, President Obama’s health department made public new waivers for more than 500 groups.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is granting temporary waivers to organizations that would not be able to meet the reform law’s new requirement for annual coverage limits.




That's 500 new ones on top of the 200+ already granted to favored entities, including phonies like these assholes:

http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/10/08/union-pushes-for-obamacare-then-is-granted-waiver/

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The irony would be humorous if it weren’t so sad: The United Federation of Teachers, the New York City branch of the American Federation of Teachers, which pushed ardently for ObamaCare has now requested – and received – a waiver from its mandates.

The UFT is a member of New York State United Teachers (NYSUT).  In September 2009, the NYSUT’s website published “Health care reform: facts vs. myths.” Here’s an excerpt:

    * Myth: Health care reform will force you out of your current insurance plan or force you to change doctors.
    * Fact: You can keep your existing insurance; reform will expand your medical options, not eliminate them.

ObamaCare was such a great idea at the time - the AFT gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Healthcare for America Now, the leading organization pushing for the government takeover of health care.

It was announced Thursday that the UFT has requested and received an Obamacare-waiver after it discovered their members would end up losing their health insurance plans.  Uh oh.




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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13860669 - 01/27/11 03:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

it is if we dont need to buy it...OK..so the norks might mount a bomb that doesnt explode on a rocket that cant fly...but that hardly justifies spending billions of $$$ on costly weapons systems of questionable effectiveness...


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13860783 - 01/27/11 03:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You  would be correct if the Norks and the US were the only countries in the world.  But they aren't so you aren't.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13862016 - 01/27/11 06:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

in that case..what countries and what threats are you talking about??...im fully aware that theres dozens of north koreas in the world...but a dozen times nothing is still nothing ..even iran was brought down with a simple computer virus.. and the best the russians can do is a catherine wheel ..



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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Annapurna1]
    #13862444 - 01/27/11 08:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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in that case..what countries and what threats are you talking about??...im fully aware that theres dozens of north koreas in the world...but a dozen times nothing is still nothing ..even iran was brought down with a simple computer virus.. and the best the russians can do is a catherine wheel ..





Iran has by no means been 'brought down' by that ingenious virus, but it has been stopped temporarily, which is an excellent thing and I applaud those men of genius who created that virus.

These countries who are ideological enemies of the West and particularly America that seek out weapons of mass destruction to threaten and ultimately use against are by no means 'nothing' states that pose no threat.

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13862620 - 01/27/11 08:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

thats what they told us in iraq...sorry but were not falling for that one twice...

Edited by Annapurna1 (01/27/11 08:58 PM)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13865122 - 01/28/11 09:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

From what I read, you implied that by paying taxes working individuals and companies can't cheat the system. And that nonworking individuals can only cheat the system.

That's a pretty false dichotonomy.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13865136 - 01/28/11 09:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Try reading just exactly what I write instead of struggling to invent something else.  I tend to be quite precise.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13869941 - 01/29/11 08:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Annapurna1 said:
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lonestar2004 said:
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I bet you don't even work either. A little leftist parasite, amiright?




i bet you a $100 bucks that shes on the doll.

some type of "Disability"




as if corporate welfare cheats (aka randroids) arent on the "doll"...your nothing but a bunch of hippocrytes...



Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




I re-read it. I stand by my analysis.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13869974 - 01/29/11 08:46 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You can stand anywhere you want.  You will note the word "and" in the sentence.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871317 - 01/29/11 02:28 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

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Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

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Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13871503 - 01/29/11 03:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

Quote:

Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

Quote:

Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.



:facepalm:

Still searching, grasshopper?  I wasn't asking for an explanation of my own sentence.:rofl2:  And you still can't stop mutating it.  Pathetic.  Go away.  Get a job.  Pay taxes.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871569 - 01/29/11 03:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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I think I'm still seeing it right. You're asking for an explanation for the statement:

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Corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums who do nothing aren't.




And your tone suggests a lot things, but mostly that you believe the statement is false. Which, if you give me a moment to bash more of my intuitive reactions into a logical shapes :confused:, led me to invert your conditionals:

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Corporations that pay taxes are not "cheats" and bums who do nothing are.




Oh wait! Now I see it. You made an indirect insult:

Quote:

Tell us again why corporations that pay taxes are "cheats" and bums (like you, Annapurna1) who do nothing aren't.




It's goofy trying to tease that out. You're writing is so oblique, and you let the context go unspoken when called on it. I no longer stand by my analysis. It's not a dichotomy, it's ad hominemic.



:facepalm:

Still searching, grasshopper?  I wasn't asking for an explanation of my own sentence.:rofl2:  And you still can't stop mutating it.  Pathetic.  Go away.  Get a job.  Pay taxes.





It's the weekend. I'l work when I have to work.

And when I say that you "were asking for an explanation" you do realize that I was speaking analytically -- right in the midsts of cutting through the intrigue of nested quotes? There's more to the thought-process than the one cherry-picked statement there.

There's context, and on cue you're ignoring it. Fascinating  :strokebeard:


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13871594 - 01/29/11 03:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Actually what there is is text.  And you're ignoring it.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13871746 - 01/29/11 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Actually what there is is text.  And you're ignoring it.




Hm, the work of sloppy fingers or a master troll? :strokebeard: [clearly my new favorite smiley]


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13872016 - 01/29/11 04:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Text.  Try it.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13877029 - 01/30/11 02:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Corporations produce goods and services that people want and pay good money for that the majority of customers earned through their own productive activity.

Parasites don't produce ANYTHING but expect and advocate for the government to provide goods and services by thieving capital off of those who produce.

Who is moral? The productive individuals within a corporation?

Or the leech that produces nothing and takes by means of government force?





I produce food AND work for a community college.  What do YOU do that is useful?

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: RationalEgo]
    #13906438 - 02/04/11 05:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I browse this politics subforum on occasion, and really the name calling here is ridiculous. How is calling everyone you disagree with "half wit leftists" even close to ok? (This applies to both people insulting republicans and people insulting democrats, this post just seemed a fitting example for the point)


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
    #13906454 - 02/04/11 05:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Insulting a general group is OK.  Blatantly insulting individual posters is not (sometimes you can slip in a sly dig although I would never stoop to such a thing:cool:)


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13906469 - 02/04/11 05:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

it may be within the rules, but it seems counter productive to intelligent debate to call whoever you are arguing with "scum sucking liberals" or "racist tea party retards". Eh, back to lurking on mushroom cult I guess


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
    #13906484 - 02/04/11 05:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Don't be such a weenie.  Just kidding.  Hey, political debate is a contact sport.  This aint the fucking Pub, thank zappa.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13906565 - 02/04/11 05:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Insulting a general group is OK.  Blatantly insulting individual posters is not (sometimes you can slip in a sly dig although I would never stoop to such a thing:cool:)




:laugh2:  Of course a person of your highbrow culture and breeding would NEVER stoop to such a base and common practice as insulting a fellow Shroomerite! :smile:

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: HippieChick8]
    #13906581 - 02/04/11 05:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I've made it into an art form.:satansmoking:


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13910283 - 02/05/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

wasn't "sly digs" the whole reason for our earlier exchange, or are you still in denial on that one?


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: nanomagnetic]
    #13910300 - 02/05/11 01:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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wasn't "sly digs" the whole reason for our earlier exchange, or are you still in denial on that one?



I know not of what you speak.:cool:


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Jacks]
    #13910689 - 02/05/11 02:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I browse this politics subforum on occasion, and really the name calling here is ridiculous. How is calling everyone you disagree with "half wit leftists" even close to ok? (This applies to both people insulting republicans and people insulting democrats, this post just seemed a fitting example for the point)




Zappa basically covered it, though I doubt "hal wit leftists" are even close to 'everyone you [he] disagree[s] with'.

Basically I agree with zappa: don't be such a weenie.  You can run off to mush cult or wherever, though we don't need your announcement, or you can deal with the disagreement and people you may or may not care for.

The rules are always open to revision, but the alternative to not allowing some play in them is to require a rigid discussion that few would seem able to confine themselves too and that would be kind of a pain in the ass in anyways.

Anyways, zappa can come off as kind of a prick to the uninitiated, don't let it get to you.

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: johnm214]
    #13910969 - 02/05/11 03:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

that philosophy bro website is pretty good, looked at the other articles :thumbup:


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: johnm214]
    #13943193 - 02/11/11 12:55 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Regardless, I agree with Jacks.  The non-technical forums here are completely worthless.   

FACT: You can't have a reasonable discussion with people when you're not face to face.  Too many people living in fantasy land = Death of repect. 

And calling someone a weenie is a direct attack - way to go Mod. 
(Oh, but I said "don't be a weenie" - that wasn't calling him one.  Right...)

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Joe Joe]
    #13944229 - 02/11/11 08:53 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I disagree 100% about that face to face crap.  In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions.  Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.


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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #13966528 - 02/15/11 09:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions.  Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.




Meh.

I'd rather take the face to face - you are 'found out' in a hurry that way whether you know your shit or not.

To me it beats this plague of thread scholar of the minute fly by professors who post out of context links that they 'expertly' claim as proof of their jibberishly thatched together position.

More often than not I've found people use their google skills as a crutch and cloak for a true understanding of the issues.

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Re: Philosophy Bro: Ayn Rands John Galt Speaking. [Re: Noetical]
    #13966770 - 02/15/11 10:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Noetical said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
In face to face discussions you can't do research and you can't link to evidence to support your assertions.  Everything in a face to face discussion is an unsupported assertion.




Meh.

I'd rather take the face to face - you are 'found out' in a hurry that way whether you know your shit or not.




Bullshit.  It is, in fact, the easiest way to bluff your way through.
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To me it beats this plague of thread scholar of the minute fly by professors who post out of context links that they 'expertly' claim as proof of their jibberishly thatched together position.




Which is why you should
1.  Actually read their links and
2.  Do your own research to refute
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More often than not I've found people use their google skills as a crutch and cloak for a true understanding of the issues.




More often than not aggressive and assertive bullshit artists prevail in face to face without having any semblance of facts on their side.


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